Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

Post by desperados »

Broner lost to Ponce DeLeon before laying nito a heavybag in the form of DeMarco (who Burns would beat easily), and then beats ... Gavin Rees, who looked 3 weight classes apart.

Broner is a hype job with the worst mayweather-shell impersonation since Berto - who is now enough of a Hype job that GBP seen fit to avoid all the real contenders at 140 and give him a prize fight with Malignaggi. I think Malignaggi will shock everyone by exposing Broners technical deffiencies and probably score a boring points win over this hypejob.
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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

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columbo wrote:Lets be honest, its never gonna happen in a million years but who would like to see a rematch?
Not me, the guy had his chance and he blew it. Burns should move on and unify.
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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

Post by jonnyyorkshu »

Fat Git wrote:
jonnyyorkshu wrote:He isn't a fraud, his reign as a world champion is though.

Would he have been world champion if there wasn't 12 belts flying around? No

Is he a good solid, European level fighter? Yes, and he was damn lucky tonight.

Broner would knock out the real problem of boxing - champions who aren't world class. It is like Scotland winning one of 12 versions of the world cup and calling themselves 'world champions'.-fat git

so IYO who are world champs?? (this should be great).

There is 11 world title sanctioning bodies out there today - I have just counted them, and thats the problem and that is why we have the likes of Ricky Burns calling himself 'world champion'.
name your WC Bud.
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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

Post by lefty »

keithmoonhangover wrote:
Fat Git wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
But I am right - as usual!

I was one world sanctioning body out with my guess. The state of boxing today Keith - you might think it is great but I don't. :TU:

And what you know about boxing - you could write on the back of a stamp.
He's ranked 3 by BoxRec and The Ring Magazine. It doesn't matter how many belts there are. He got those ratings by boxing.
There subjective rankings though to be fair.
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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

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Horse wrote:
Fat Git wrote:There is 11 world title sanctioning bodies out there today - I have just counted them, and thats the problem and that is why we have the likes of Ricky Burns calling himself 'world champion'.
Only four are regarded as world titles by most.
Oh shut up you tit, who is one more 'legitimate' than the other?

The IBF has been exposed as criminal racket. How it is still in business I don't fornicating know.

How many types of world champion exist in the WBA alone - I forgot about their
two world champions per weight division - so... that is...

...12 types of world title belt.

It is a disgrace.

You might think it is OK but it is killing our sport.
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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

Post by jamiedavies02 »

People may question Burns ability (personally I feel he is vastly overrated) but you can't question the guys heart and fitness, he got away with one tonight. He admitted in his post-fight interview he needs to go back to the drawing board. Personally, after the heart he showed tonight, I hope he gets a big unification fight and payday.

Gonzalez on the other hand, I think if he improves his fitness he could be one to watch over the next year or two, especially if the likes of Burns and Broner move up. Looked quality until the tank emptied and the debatable injury.
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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

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columbo wrote:Lets be honest, its never gonna happen in a million years but who would like to see a rematch?
I for one would. Be very interesting to see how Burns would adapt. Gonzalez is a handful regardless of how he bailed.
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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

Post by ShadrachSimmo »

columbo wrote:Lets be honest, its never gonna happen in a million years but who would like to see a rematch?
I for one would. Be very interesting to see how Burns would adapt. Gonzalez is a handful regardless of how he bailed.
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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

Post by el_grande_mauro_mina »

jonnyyorkshu wrote:
Fat Git wrote:
jonnyyorkshu wrote:He isn't a fraud, his reign as a world champion is though.

Would he have been world champion if there wasn't 12 belts flying around? No

Is he a good solid, European level fighter? Yes, and he was damn lucky tonight.

Broner would knock out the real problem of boxing - champions who aren't world class. It is like Scotland winning one of 12 versions of the world cup and calling themselves 'world champions'.-fat git

so IYO who are world champs?? (this should be great).

There is 11 world title sanctioning bodies out there today - I have just counted them, and thats the problem and that is why we have the likes of Ricky Burns calling himself 'world champion'.
name your WC Bud.

Do you think I am going to trawl through 12 lightweights who call themselves 'world champion' thats 12 fighters by the way who call themselves the same as Ricky Burns - your point is?
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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

Post by jonnyyorkshu »

Fat Git wrote:
Horse wrote:
Fat Git wrote:There is 11 world title sanctioning bodies out there today - I have just counted them, and thats the problem and that is why we have the likes of Ricky Burns calling himself 'world champion'.
Only four are regarded as world titles by most.
Oh shut up you tit, who is one more 'legitimate' than the other?

The IBF has been exposed as criminal racket. How it is still in business I don't effing know.

How many types of world champion exist in the WBA alone - I forgot about their
two world champions per weight division - so... that is...

...12 types of world title belt.

It is a disgrace.

You might think it is OK but it is killing our sport.
name your world champs!
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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

Post by NazNaci1 »

Well if Burns is some kind of paper champion, what the hell does that actually make a genuine paper champion, like Cleverley?

Burns is a quality fighter. He gutted it out. He won. He will move on. He might lose his next fight but when someone has bottle to burn, I tend to always give them some kind of chance.
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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

Post by Finn »

Fat Git wrote:
He isn't a fraud, his reign as a world champion is though.

Would he have been world champion if there wasn't 12 belts flying around? No

Is he a good solid, European level fighter? Yes, and he was damn lucky tonight.

Broner would knock out the real problem of boxing - champions who aren't world class. It is like Scotland winning one of 12 versions of the world cup and calling themselves 'world champions'.
Disagree tonight he showed why he is a champion, he didnt break the guy through luck he broke him mentally through grit and heart. You could tell that kid was quality straight away, burns was being outclassed but to stand there and give it everything you've got and turn a fight like that is what boxing is about. Heart!
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Fat Git wrote:Oh shut up you tit, who is one more 'legitimate' than the other?

The IBF has been exposed as criminal racket. How it is still in business I don't effing know.

How many types of world champion exist in the WBA alone - I forgot about their
two world champions per weight division - so... that is...

...12 types of world title belt.

It is a disgrace.

You might think it is OK but it is killing our sport.
Keep writing about this subject, it will make you look more and more daft.
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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

Post by el_grande_mauro_mina »

keithmoonhangover wrote:
Fat Git wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:For what it's worth, you are being a cock.
But I am right - as usual!

I was one world sanctioning body out with my guess. The state of boxing today Keith - you might think it is great but I don't. :TU:

And what you know about boxing - you could write on the back of a stamp.
He's ranked 3 by BoxRec and The Ring Magazine. It doesn't matter how many belts there are. He got those ratings by boxing.

So, say he is the third best lightweight in the world, that means he isn't the best in the world
therefore he has no right to call himself 'world champion' it is singular 'world champion' there is only meant to be one. I am a bit old fashioned like that to be fair. I don't want 8 weight divisions back but one champion per division is not much to ask.
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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

Post by el_grande_mauro_mina »

Horse wrote:
Fat Git wrote:Oh shut up you tit, who is one more 'legitimate' than the other?

The IBF has been exposed as criminal racket. How it is still in business I don't effing know.

How many types of world champion exist in the WBA alone - I forgot about their
two world champions per weight division - so... that is...

...12 types of world title belt.

It is a disgrace.

You might think it is OK but it is killing our sport.
Keep writing about this subject, it will make you look more and more daft.
Except you can't come up with a decent rebuttal.

Horse making a defence on behalf of the 'alphabet boys' please bring it on sonny!! :box:
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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

Post by lefty »

Finn wrote:
Fat Git wrote:
He isn't a fraud, his reign as a world champion is though.

Would he have been world champion if there wasn't 12 belts flying around? No

Is he a good solid, European level fighter? Yes, and he was damn lucky tonight.

Broner would knock out the real problem of boxing - champions who aren't world class. It is like Scotland winning one of 12 versions of the world cup and calling themselves 'world champions'.
Disagree tonight he showed why he is a champion, he didnt break the guy through luck he broke him mentally through grit and heart. You could tell that kid was quality straight away, burns was being outclassed but to stand there and give it everything you've got and turn a fight like that is what boxing is about. Heart!
You sound like Micky from Rocky :OhYes:
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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

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columbo wrote:Lets be honest, its never gonna happen in a million years but who would like to see a rematch?
If Gonzalez has a genuine injury that forced him to pull out then a rematch might interest me. If he pulled out because he didn't fancy it, then no I wouldn't want to see it again.
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Fat Git wrote:Except you can't come up with a decent rebuttal.

Horse making a defence on behalf of the 'alphabet boys' please bring it on sonny!! :box:
"12 belts! 12 belts! 12 belts!".

4 belts is more honest, isn't it?
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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

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jonnyyorkshu wrote:
Fat Git wrote:
Horse wrote:There is 11 world title sanctioning bodies out there today - I have just counted them, and thats the problem and that is why we have the likes of Ricky Burns calling himself 'world champion'.
Only four are regarded as world titles by most.

Oh shut up you tit, who is one more 'legitimate' than the other?

The IBF has been exposed as criminal racket. How it is still in business I don't effing know.

How many types of world champion exist in the WBA alone - I forgot about their
two world champions per weight division - so... that is...

...12 types of world title belt.

It is a disgrace.

You might think it is OK but it is killing our sport.
name your world champs!
What is your point?

If you tell me you point then I will go and look them up for you - a deal?
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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

Post by Freedom2013 »

Ricky Burns has the heart and the mindset of a champion.

Gonzalez has long arms and he's well-schooled, but sometimes that's not enough.

In round 7, Gonzalez ran into the stone wall of Ricky Burns determination to win, and couldn't get through it.
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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

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desperados wrote:Broner lost to Ponce DeLeon before laying nito a heavybag in the form of DeMarco (who Burns would beat easily), and then beats ... Gavin Rees, who looked 3 weight classes apart.

Broner is a hype job with the worst mayweather-shell impersonation since Berto - who is now enough of a Hype job that GBP seen fit to avoid all the real contenders at 140 and give him a prize fight with Malignaggi. I think Malignaggi will shock everyone by exposing Broners technical deffiencies and probably score a boring points win over this hypejob.
As much as I'm willing the smack talk legend Mallignaggi to somehow physically boss and embarrass the humourless, irritating Broner, you can't deny the talent we're dealing with here. Burns would have never beaten Broner end of.
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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

Post by el_grande_mauro_mina »

Horse wrote:
Fat Git wrote:Except you can't come up with a decent rebuttal.

Horse making a defence on behalf of the 'alphabet boys' please bring it on sonny!! :box:
"12 belts! 12 belts! 12 belts!".

4 belts is more honest, isn't it?
No - the WBA have two belts alone. So how can that be 4 you thick pudendum.
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Kilburn wrote:
desperados wrote:Broner lost to Ponce DeLeon before laying nito a heavybag in the form of DeMarco (who Burns would beat easily), and then beats ... Gavin Rees, who looked 3 weight classes apart.

Broner is a hype job with the worst mayweather-shell impersonation since Berto - who is now enough of a Hype job that GBP seen fit to avoid all the real contenders at 140 and give him a prize fight with Malignaggi. I think Malignaggi will shock everyone by exposing Broners technical deffiencies and probably score a boring points win over this hypejob.
As much as I'm willing the smack talk legend Mallignaggi to somehow physically boss and embarrass the humourless, irritating Broner, you can't deny the talent we're dealing with here. Burns would have never beaten Broner end of.
Yeah I agree. People saying Broner is a hype job make no sense to me. As much as a cock as he can be, the guy is clearly skilled a very good counter puncher with power.
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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

Post by jonnyyorkshu »

Fat Git wrote:
Horse wrote:
Fat Git wrote:Oh shut up you tit, who is one more 'legitimate' than the other?

The IBF has been exposed as criminal racket. How it is still in business I don't effing know.

How many types of world champion exist in the WBA alone - I forgot about their
two world champions per weight division - so... that is...

...12 types of world title belt.

It is a disgrace.

You might think it is OK but it is killing our sport.
Keep writing about this subject, it will make you look more and more daft.
Except you can't come up with a decent rebuttal.

Horse making a defence on behalf of the 'alphabet boys' please bring it on sonny!! :box:
im not disputing what you say.i just wanna hear your champ list so i can pick it to pieces
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Re: Burns v Gonzalez plus undercard

Post by lefty »

Fat Git wrote:
Horse wrote:
Fat Git wrote:Except you can't come up with a decent rebuttal.

Horse making a defence on behalf of the 'alphabet boys' please bring it on sonny!! :box:
"12 belts! 12 belts! 12 belts!".

4 belts is more honest, isn't it?
No - the WBA have two belts alone. So how can that be 4 you thick pudendum.
:lol:
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