Marvin Hagler at 160
Chris Eubank at 160 and 168 pound
Nigel Benn at 160 and 168 poinds
Bernand Hopkins 160 and 175 pounds.
James Toney Versus
Re: James Toney Versus
I'd pick Toney by decision in all of those fights except for Benn at 168 then I pick Toney by KO.
Re: James Toney Versus
Hagler kicks his ass by a wide decision
He probably beats Eubank 2 out of 3
Stops Benn late
loses close to Hopkins.
He probably beats Eubank 2 out of 3
Stops Benn late
loses close to Hopkins.
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HomicideHenry
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Re: James Toney Versus
The problem with Toney, in my eyes at least, is we never got to see him truly at his best--- regardless of what weight class he was in. For whatever reason, he shined bright for a while, and then allowed himself to be shut down and out. Then the next time we would see him, he was ten or twenty, or more pounds heavier. I always felt, in some respects, that he was never given the just due or credit he deserved as a heavyweight, or even a cruiserweight. While many will disagree with me, I am sure, he should of gotten a title fight against the Klitschko's.
As for his career in the lighter weights---- if it was James Toney, who he could be--- not as he was more times than not--- then I would favor him against the majority of these men that were listed. I remember interviewing James once, and he said something that will stick with me forever--- because he was right. "When you see me fight, look at tapes of Ezzard Charles and Jersey Joe Walcott and men of that league and you will know I belong with them."
Hopkins-Toney-Jones. The last truly great fighters of our time. At the end of the day, Jones was a bigger star. Hopkins, upon retiring, will be cemented as our generation's most decorated and accomplished fighter. Toney, when he will be remembered at all, will be universally recognized as having more talent, ability, skill and guts than either of them; but he never followed through with the potential--- either because of politics, or by lack of desire.
As for his career in the lighter weights---- if it was James Toney, who he could be--- not as he was more times than not--- then I would favor him against the majority of these men that were listed. I remember interviewing James once, and he said something that will stick with me forever--- because he was right. "When you see me fight, look at tapes of Ezzard Charles and Jersey Joe Walcott and men of that league and you will know I belong with them."
Hopkins-Toney-Jones. The last truly great fighters of our time. At the end of the day, Jones was a bigger star. Hopkins, upon retiring, will be cemented as our generation's most decorated and accomplished fighter. Toney, when he will be remembered at all, will be universally recognized as having more talent, ability, skill and guts than either of them; but he never followed through with the potential--- either because of politics, or by lack of desire.
Re: James Toney Versus
Toney had the best attitude. Ok not the best, but the most believable edginess. He seemed genuine in his trash talk. I do think of him as perhaps the last of the certified old school performers. His focus was remarkable, and his endurance belied his looks later in his career. He just didn't look like a fella who could deliver that much energy with the weight he was totin'.