Has Wilder's power been exposed?

[crusader]

I think you've clearly built a strawman.

The original poster used a term that has almost universal understanding in the boxing community and a dictionary definition. *You* are the one wanting to redirect this into being a discussion of semantics because, I suppose, that makes for a path in which we can say he was "exposed" without looking totally ridiculous.

The first definition of 'exposed' when I type 'define: exposed' into Google is: make (something) visible, typically by uncovering it. People use words differently and there are often multiple definitions of the same word, so the best way to discern what someone intends to convey is to use the context in which those words are used. Given the thread starter's full post in which they clearly ask if Wilder's power was overrated due to his poor opposition, acknowledge that he rocked Stiverne multiple times, and don't mention at any point that he may be powerless, I think it's obvious that they're soliciting opinions about whether this fight made it visible that his power was flattered by his poor opposition rather than questioning whether he can punch at all. There are also no posts thereafter in which it's suggested that Wilder may have no power, so no, it's not me who is distorting the questions and positions being offered; you're addressing a position which hasn't been taken by anyone in this thread.

But go ahead and keep mentioning that the fight didn't show that Wilder can't punch even though no one is disagreeing with you.

[Pigeons]

Stiverne should have been counted in the second.

As for Deontay's power, watch the Liakhovich fight. It won't take too much of your time.

[Brute]

Wilder won a unanimous decision (118-109, 119-108, 120-107) against the WBC Heavyweight Champion.

Winning is what counts, not being able to KO a man who outweighs you. Did you bet on Stiverne?

This is a thread about his power. Are you really so simple minded that you don't think anything but results should be discussed?

Nothing but results matter. By the way, how is a man who KOed 32 of 33 opponents a poor puncher? Foreman was a frightening puncher & he lost fights.
Oh, that's right! You're Canadian.

[crusader]

Wilder won a unanimous decision (118-109, 119-108, 120-107) against the WBC Heavyweight Champion.

Winning is what counts, not being able to KO a man who outweighs you. Did you bet on Stiverne?

This is a thread about his power. Are you really so simple minded that you don't think anything but results should be discussed?

Nothing but results matter. By the way, how is a man who KOed 32 of 33 opponents a poor puncher? Foreman was a frightening puncher & he lost fights.
Oh, that's right! You're Canadian.

Far more than results matter, and even if that were untrue it wouldn't mean that nothing but results should be discussed. I never said that Wilder is a poor puncher and I've lauded his power throughout this thread, so I suspect that you didn't take the time to read those posts or have very poor reading comprehension, or both.

Me being Canadian is irrelevant and it's fallacious to attack a person presenting the argument and not the argument. Before the fight I predicted that Wilder would beat Stiverne and I made several posts about the latter being overrated, so it's not as if I reflexively backed Stiverne because he lived in Canada for a bit and Wilder didn't. Wilder was clearly the better man as I expected him to be, and I'm not remotely bitter about him winning.

[caldo2025]

I must admit, I was pretty impressed with Wilder's performance Saturday Night. Like most people, I was expecting him to be exposed as the ultra protected prospect carefully matriculated around land mines to rise up the ranks. But surprisingly, I found that Wilder showed us several things the other night. If you look at most successful heavyweight greats, they all had a jab. Larry Holmes, Lennox Lewis, Ali, to mention some, all worked behind a solid jab. With Wilder's reach, an effective jab is a game changer. Wilder also showed us that he's got a chin. He got hit with several sturdy blows and seemed unfazed. Lastly, we found out that he's in tremendous shape. In 32 prior fights, he never fought more than 12 minutes. He never seemed to tire on Saturday night and that may have been the most surprising things of note. A solid jab, a good chin and stamina to go the distance, these are things that make a difference in the heavyweight division. This guy could have staying power so we better get used to his antics.

His power was sapped on Saturday night because he was continuously moving backwards in this fight. He's young and has never had an opponent walk him down like that so I think that it surprised Wilder and his reaction was to snap the jab more while retreating. A person with Wilder's power needs to dictate the action and move forward. He did this at the end of the first 3 rounds and those were his best moments in the fight. With that said, I think that Wilder answered a lot of questions Saturday night. The biggest of which was the question "Do we finally have an American Heavyweight that we can believe in"? That answer is YES and we'd like to see more please.

[Chepppaaa]

I must admit, I was pretty impressed with Wilder's performance Saturday Night. Like most people, I was expecting him to be exposed as the ultra protected prospect carefully matriculated around land mines to rise up the ranks. But surprisingly, I found that Wilder showed us several things the other night. If you look at most successful heavyweight greats, they all had a jab. Larry Holmes, Lennox Lewis, Ali, to mention some, all worked behind a solid jab. With Wilder's reach, an effective jab is a game changer. Wilder also showed us that he's got a chin. He got hit with several sturdy blows and seemed unfazed. Lastly, we found out that he's in tremendous shape. In 32 prior fights, he never fought more than 12 minutes. He never seemed to tire on Saturday night and that may have been the most surprising things of note. A solid jab, a good chin and stamina to go the distance, these are things that make a difference in the heavyweight division. This guy could have staying power so we better get used to his antics.

His power was sapped on Saturday night because he was continuously moving backwards in this fight. He's young and has never had an opponent walk him down like that so I think that it surprised Wilder and his reaction was to snap the jab more while retreating. A person with Wilder's power needs to dictate the action and move forward. He did this at the end of the first 3 rounds and those were his best moments in the fight. With that said, I think that Wilder answered a lot of questions Saturday night. The biggest of which was the question "Do we finally have an American Heavyweight that we can believe in"? That answer is YES and we'd like to see more please.

what i like about wilder is that he is the total package. fury is fat, slow and flat footed and has 0 footwork. povetkin has no power. wlad is super boring.

wilder is the only heavyweight besides jushua that i found good. he has solid footwork, he has an tremendous fast popping jab and a strong right hand and yes, he cant take a punch and go the distance. on top he takes his training seriously and always comes into tip top shape in the ring, something you cant say of 90 % of the heavyweights.