Tyson Fury has been carefully matched

[stevedoc]

No????
Wlad looks like a athlete
Briggs looks like a athlete
Lewis,Haye,Povetkin,Tyson,Holyfield,Vitali.

Chagaev was never ripped but i his prime he looked in shape.

Valuev is the only dude i can thinl of in 20 yrs who doesnt look like a athlete.

Tyson Fury is a lazy fornicator, hes no better than Arreola. Tyson is tall and lanky so he hide it better than Arreola.

Do you really believe that has anything to do with being a good boxer nearly every Latin fighter looks a little soft like Duran and Chavez

[hurricanemitch14]

Fury isnt a little soft......he looks like he was 200 lbs 4 yrs ago went to college, joined a frat and now this is what he looks like. Hes a well paid pro athlete who be taking care of his body yr round. Comparing Fury to friggin Duran us crazy....a mid 20's Duran didnt look like Fury.

Fury is fat like Arreola and he will pay for it when he fight somebody worth a fornicate.

[Tony1244]

I don't get this Fury hating unless you're hating on his attitude or foul language.


As a HW prospect he has answered everything that has been asked. He is undefeated and improving, as he isn't losing rounds anymore. He lost rounds and got knocked down by Cunningham and the Fury Haters point to that as proof in the pudding but Cunningham is ONE HELLVA FIGHTER !

Fury isn't fat like a Solis or Arreola. He looks in good shape and proves it by going rounds. Fury's physique is much like Holmes' was. As others alluded to, it's not a beauty contest, but Fury came in a bit chubby in a recent tuneup, but he wasn't fat.

[hurricanemitch14]

He doesnt take care of himself...its obvious. We will all see when he fights Wlad,Wilder,Povetkin.

Tyson has talent and size but he isnt in world class shape. Ive already gave example of heavyweight champs in the past 20 yrs. U mention Holmes who fought as champ 30 friggin yrs ago before all the training technology came to light.

[hurricanemitch14]

Arreola goes rds and he still fat.

[Cap]

Tyson "The Octopus" Fury has been carefully matched? Tell us something we don't know. Christian Hammer was barely sentient before he "fought" Fury. I could not believe the number of times the referee admonished him for trying to make a fight of it. That was the first time I can ever recall thinking I might turn on something else midway through a heavyweight fight. If that is now what boxing has become, I'll start watching competitive tiddly-winks.

[Horse]

Tyson "The Octopus" Fury has been carefully matched? Tell us something we don't know. Christian Hammer was barely sentient before he "fought" Fury. I could not believe the number of times the referee admonished him for trying to make a fight of it. That was the first time I can ever recall thinking I might turn on something else midway through a heavyweight fight. If that is now what boxing has become, I'll start watching competitive tiddly-winks.

Who hasn't been carefully matched?

Fury is in the top 3 in the division based on his record.

Why does Fury get so much abuse compared to everyone else in the division?

[Evander]

Tyson Fury the fighter has the one equaliser that can turn fights in a blink and that's his power, he's a huge man so pretty much anything he throws with power is going to hurt.
I'm not taking a shot at Tyson here but it's obvious to most seasoned fans that boxing ability is not his strong point, talking a good game only gets Tyson so far in the ring, outside it's a valuable asset to Fury's career.
Yesterdays fight looked to be a fill in stay busy fight borderline sparring session and its possible that will remain the case as Fury wants to retain his place in line, my guess would be no risky fights or chance taking until something big happens.
Be it a title shot at Wladimir Klitschko, Deontay Wilder or with fight with a major name is Fury's priority and he won't move on it and who can blame him, Tyson wants the big payday and it doesn't matter who it is.
He was genuinely upset when the David Haye fight fell through, he apparently trained very hard for that and since then major money fights have not materialized.
When you look at the top 10+ active fighters in the Heavyweight division it does seem like he should get a crack regardless of his ranking at this point.
I can't imagine Klitschko or Wilder are shaking in their boots at the prospect of having to fight him and although they won't take him lightly I currently believe the disparity in actual talent between them is wide enough to be considered a secondary talking point, Klitschko is a good boxer and he's big enough to dominate Fury just on the outside alone, Wilder is very quick and has a mean punch for his size, he is smaller and would give up a lot of weight yet maintain an enormous advantage in speed over Tyson.
Who knows, my guess is unless Fury over prices himself to the point of jeopardizing a fight, he'll take on Wladimir Klitschko.

[Tony1244]

If Tyson Fury's "Boxing ability is not his strong suit," than Johnson, Chisora, and Hammer must be really really bad! And I don't think those guys are THAT bad. Fury is only 26 which is young for a HW and his boxing ability is a work in progress.

[Tony1244]

Tyson "The Octopus" Fury has been carefully matched? Tell us something we don't know. Christian Hammer was barely sentient before he "fought" Fury. I could not believe the number of times the referee admonished him for trying to make a fight of it. That was the first time I can ever recall thinking I might turn on something else midway through a heavyweight fight. If that is now what boxing has become, I'll start watching competitive tiddly-winks.

Who hasn't been carefully matched?

Fury is in the top 3 in the division based on his record.

Why does Fury get so much abuse compared to everyone else in the division?

I hear you Horse. Fury and Wilder are getting abused because they're the first guys in quite a while who are a real threat to Wlad. People mock his boxing ability but you don't shut these guys out over 8, 10, 12 rounds without having good boxing ability. It's not like Hammer, Chisora, or Johnson have bad records. no, they're not world beaters but let's keep things in perspective.

[Evander]

If Tyson Fury's "Boxing ability is not his strong suit," than Johnson, Chisora, and Hammer must be really really bad! And I don't think those guys are THAT bad. Fury is only 26 which is young for a HW and his boxing ability is a work in progress.

The Hammer fight in my opinion didn't particularly showcase the skills of Tyson, I certainly didn't come away from it thinking wow what a vast improvement.
Chisora prior to that didn't even look like he should be in the ring, yes I'll give Tyson some credit for what he landed but he was hardly facing what you call a live one, half the time it was target practice due to the rapidly declining Chisora.
I'm not taking away the fact that Tyson beat them and easily, it's just how he boxes, yes I've seen him change and use his height reach and pick away at opponents with his boxing and it works for him.
I'm just having a hard time visioning how that would make enough of a difference against someone like a Klitschko or even Wilder.

[hurricanemitch14]

Tyson "The Octopus" Fury has been carefully matched? Tell us something we don't know. Christian Hammer was barely sentient before he "fought" Fury. I could not believe the number of times the referee admonished him for trying to make a fight of it. That was the first time I can ever recall thinking I might turn on something else midway through a heavyweight fight. If that is now what boxing has become, I'll start watching competitive tiddly-winks.

Who hasn't been carefully matched?

Fury is in the top 3 in the division based on his record.

Why does Fury get so much abuse compared to everyone else in the division?

I'm only dogging his motivation. I think he comes in soft and flabby. Tyson can fight and has shown balls. I think guys r so hard because he's a douche that claims he the greatest heavyweight of all time and yet he doesn't fight anyone. He has a lot of money behind him so I know damn well he can fight about anyone he wants. Yet he gets in there with Hammer, a dude that squeaked out a win over KJ. The same KJ that was already dominated by Fury.

[forcefraser]

Fury is better than people give him credit for. Sure he`s no Ali, but he is a legitimate top 5 heavyweight.

Wlad will stop him quite easily and Wilder will give him fits, but there are not too many others out there who would go in favourite against Fury.

Joshua beats them all

[Hardcase]

Tyson Fury has avoided anyone who might be a threat.

- Tony Thompson offered to fight him several times, but Fury ignored his requests & chose smaller men.
- Fury was offered a final IBF eliminator vs. Kubrat Pulev, but said no
- Klitschko offered Fury a fight, but Fury's management said "not yet" and so Wladimir fought Wach
- Before Price fought Thompson, he wanted to fight Fury, but was avoided
- Fury pulled out of the fight with Ustinov after seeing Ustinov at the weigh-in

Fury's record is largely against small HWs and cruiserweights like Cunningham, who put him on the floor. Fury had to use dirty, illegal tactics to defeat Cunningham.

Now Fury is fighting a light-punching guy in Hammer, who has some boxing skills but is no real threat at all (never mind how the WBO ranks him, he's not really the third best heavyweight).

Prediction: Fury will avoid Deontay Wilder and Wladimir Klitschko, and then say they are ducking him.

None of what you just said is true

[hurricanemitch14]

Actually its all true

[Cap]

To all the Fury apologists who say "He's no Ali." I gag and say Ali? He isn't even a young Scott Ledoux or Ron Stander. Give me a break. He fights smaller guys with no punch (yet still gets knocked down) and uses his freakish size to wear guys down. Put a boxing glove on the end of an elephant's trunk and you've got Tyson Fury.

[Tony1244]

To all the Fury apologists who say "He's no Ali." I gag and say Ali? He isn't even a young Scott Ledoux or Ron Stander. Give me a break. He fights smaller guys with no punch (yet still gets knocked down) and uses his freakish size to wear guys down. Put a boxing glove on the end of an elephant's trunk and you've got Tyson Fury.

Fury isn't even LeDoux or Stander?? Yeah right, why not come clean and tell us the real reason you don't like Fury. Fury is by far the best HW prospect since the Klitschkos.

[jezzamundo]

Watching Tyson fury struggle against McDermott, I was convinced he would never go far. However, he was young and since then has improved drastically. He's a tall and lanky 6'9" and even in the mid 240s he never had much muscle definition. I'd say at 260lb he's at least 10lb-15lb overweight, but he actually seems to have above average stamina, despite not looking like an athlete. His power is fairly average for a big heavyweight - he's certainly not a puncher in the vein of Wlad, Wilder or David Price. He has been down twice against a light-hitting heavyweight and a blown-up cruiserweight, but both times were flush power shots and both times he showed good recuperative powers in getting up and going on to win. It would probably be fair to say that his defense is not the best and his chin is no better than average, which in combination will be a liability against any hard punching, skilled opponent.

On the other hand, I thought the Martin Rogan fight might be competitive, only for Fury to dominate and stop Rogan while fighting out of a southpaw stance.

I thought he would struggle against Kevin Johnson (who at the time had only lost to Vitali and a 3 round prize fighter against Tor Hamer on points), but he shut him out impressively.

After starting poorly against Cunningham, he went on to impose his size and strength, showing that he would be a handful for any smaller heavyweight, or any heavyweight who didn't want to fight him on the inside.

After the disappointment of the Haye fight falling through (I couldn't pick a winner, for me that was a 50:50 fight but it would almost certainly end in a stoppage, Haye early, or Fury mid-late).

I was expecting Fury to win the Chisora rematch, although Chisora had clearly improved and got into better shape than when they first faced off, Fury had improved too. I was expecting a competitive but clear 117-111 type decision win, but was surprised when Fury shut out and stopped Chisora - again fighting in a southpaw stance - which was better than Vitali managed to do.

It's got to the point where I've realised that Fury is a completely different fighter to the one who struggled with John McDermott and will either stop or shut out all but the very best heavyweights. He still looks clumsy at time and isn't hard to hit, but he has fairly fast hands and feet for such a big heavyweight, throws punches in combinations, is happy boxing or brawling, can switch stance and unlike Wlad and Wilder, he can fight on the inside. Those combination of attributed make him a handful for anyone and now, it wouldn't shock me if he were to beat Wlad.

[Cap]

The boyos waltzing with the Elephant Man don't hit hard enough at heavyweight to break a paper bag. Having 260+ pounds draped over you for 5 or 6 rounds will wear you down, exhaust you and frustrate you. But that's not boxing. That's Wlad Klinch-ko at his worst. It's sad that the heavyweights are right now the poorest division in boxing. Maybe 3 or 4 guys worthy of being called boxers. Let's see Fury fight Kubrat Pulev or Deontay Wilder or even Alex Ustinov before he gets to fight the heavyweight champion of the world. Right now the Elephant Man is a carnival side-show.

[Lennox]

If you want to see who has been carefully matched and who has fought the best fighters we have extended the IWBR to the last twenty fights now, the numbers relate to the pre-fight ranking of the beaten opponent.

www.independentworldboxingrankings.com/heavyweight-200

[Tony1244]

The boyos waltzing with the Elephant Man don't hit hard enough at heavyweight to break a paper bag. Having 260+ pounds draped over you for 5 or 6 rounds will wear you down, exhaust you and frustrate you. But that's not boxing. That's Wlad Klinch-ko at his worst. It's sad that the heavyweights are right now the poorest division in boxing. Maybe 3 or 4 guys worthy of being called boxers. Let's see Fury fight Kubrat Pulev or Deontay Wilder or even Alex Ustinov before he gets to fight the heavyweight champion of the world. Right now the Elephant Man is a carnival side-show.

You're really tough on this guy. True, Fury has not proven yet he's up there with a Klitschko, Lewis, or Holme, but I do think he has already proven he's at least a Joe Bugner or Gerry Cooney. Getting knocked down by Cunningham isn't THAT bad. Cunningham can fight some. Fury got up and won convincingly. Fury has a decent jab. Can fight southpaw. Works to the body very well which very few HWs do. Give the guy a break.

[hurricanemitch14]

U do realize cooney smoked ken nortan and ron lyle dipshit. U dumbass brits r ate the fornicate up

[tiny_acres]

U do realize cooney smoked ken nortan and ron lyle dipshit. U dumbass brits r ate the eff up

I am a huge fan pf Cooney.But Norton and Lyle were washed up when he fought them.

[Tony1244]

U do realize cooney smoked ken nortan and ron lyle dipshit. U dumbass brits r ate the eff up

I'll try to elevate my literary prose to your level, but it's a lofty challenge. Besides, the fact I'm not British, Ken NortOn and Ron Lyle were way, way past their prime.

[hurricanemitch14]

Yea Cunningham is also prime and is a true heavyweight.