Are pac n floyd 1 and 2 at welterweight?

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Re: Are pac n floyd 1 and 2 at welterweight?

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Thurman is utter garbage.
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Re: Are pac n floyd 1 and 2 at welterweight?

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Chepppaaa wrote:

okay, i will now explain you some things.

bradley is a 5'6 feather fisted midget, who beat light welterweights, who are also to small, height wise and physicly wise for welterweight, provod 5'6 and marquez 5'6.
neither provod nor marquez have ever beaten a big full blown welterweight. bradley is so bad at welterweight that he cant even convincingly beat a nobody like diego, who got wrecked in 10 by thurman.

thurman is a 5′ 7½″ big monster, with middleweight power. he can move well and improved in every segmant. thurman would laugh at bradley punches, were bradley would trumble by thurmans punches. physicly a total mismatch.

brook is an super athletic 5'9 boxer, who moves better, more fluid than bradley and same as thurman or other grown welterweight would laugh at bradley non excisting power. brook would pick him appart.

1. 5'6 vs 5'71/2. Whooaaa big difference. 5'6 = midget and 5'7 = monster
2. While they're the same height, Bradley is naturally bigger than Pacquiao
3. If Bradley has no power, how on Earth was he backing Alexander up and dropping Peterson. Alexander wasn't that worried about Maidana who you claim would KO Bradley.
4. Didn't Marquez beat Alvarado, a full blown welter. If Alvarado isn't, then Maidana isn't neither. (Remember his excuse for losing to Alexander, another 140er who moved up)
5. If his defense is so bad, why hasn't ANYONE KO'd him?
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Re: Are pac n floyd 1 and 2 at welterweight?

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tiny_acres wrote:Anyone who has sparred with an elite level boxer thinks they can compete with them.
Sparring and an actual fight are 2 different things.
Nothing Porter has done makes me think he can hang with Pac
I get sooooo tired of hearing this!! Sometimes sparring gets very heated and boxers exchange heavily during very competitive sessions, they used to have this thing in Philly called Gym Wars and basically they were sparring sessions that ended up as competitions between one camp/gym or another.

Larry Holmes sparred with Ali for years and knew him very well, there's no way in the world anyone can tell me that Holmes didn't have the confidence that he could beat Muhammad and that his confidence did not come from his years of sparring with Ali.

Sparring matters, don't blow it off; fighters learn quite a few things from their sparring partners that can be beneficial in a real bout like timing, habits (good or bad), distance, work ethic, etc., etc.
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Re: Are pac n floyd 1 and 2 at welterweight?

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IKSRTFO wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:

okay, i will now explain you some things.

bradley is a 5'6 feather fisted midget, who beat light welterweights, who are also to small, height wise and physicly wise for welterweight, provod 5'6 and marquez 5'6.
neither provod nor marquez have ever beaten a big full blown welterweight. bradley is so bad at welterweight that he cant even convincingly beat a nobody like diego, who got wrecked in 10 by thurman.

thurman is a 5′ 7½″ big monster, with middleweight power. he can move well and improved in every segmant. thurman would laugh at bradley punches, were bradley would trumble by thurmans punches. physicly a total mismatch.

brook is an super athletic 5'9 boxer, who moves better, more fluid than bradley and same as thurman or other grown welterweight would laugh at bradley non excisting power. brook would pick him appart.

1. 5'6 vs 5'71/2. Whooaaa big difference. 5'6 = midget and 5'7 = monster
2. While they're the same height, Bradley is naturally bigger than Pacquiao
3. If Bradley has no power, how on Earth was he backing Alexander up and dropping Peterson. Alexander wasn't that worried about Maidana who you claim would KO Bradley.
4. Didn't Marquez beat Alvarado, a full blown welter. If Alvarado isn't, then Maidana isn't neither. (Remember his excuse for losing to Alexander, another 140er who moved up)
5. If his defense is so bad, why hasn't ANYONE KO'd him?

5'6 and 5'7 1/2 is maybe not a big difference, but a difference. also thurman is physivcly just bigger and stronger than bradley

stop with alexander.....also sh/()t.....maidanas power > bradleys all day

alvarado is light welter. maidana is welter, because his body is naturaly bigger than alvarados. maidana got big strong shoulders and arms. his whole build from legs to neck is big. welterweight is the perfect division for maidana.

although i hate a lot on timmy, one thing he got and that is chin, bradley is a warrior and hell yeah can he take a big punch. but guys like thurman or maidana would physicly to much for him, i wounder how he survived provodnikov
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Re: Are pac n floyd 1 and 2 at welterweight?

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KBB wrote:
tiny_acres wrote:Anyone who has sparred with an elite level boxer thinks they can compete with them.
Sparring and an actual fight are 2 different things.
Nothing Porter has done makes me think he can hang with Pac
I get sooooo tired of hearing this!! Sometimes sparring gets very heated and boxers exchange heavily during very competitive sessions, they used to have this thing in Philly called Gym Wars and basically they were sparring sessions that ended up as competitions between one camp/gym or another.

Larry Holmes sparred with Ali for years and knew him very well, there's no way in the world anyone can tell me that Holmes didn't have the confidence that he could beat Muhammad and that his confidence did not come from his years of sparring with Ali.

Sparring matters, don't blow it off; fighters learn quite a few things from their sparring partners that can be beneficial in a real bout like timing, habits (good or bad), distance, work ethic, etc., etc.

Then I guess Peterson must have Floyd's number huh? Floyd also got lit up by Erik Morales.
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Re: Are pac n floyd 1 and 2 at welterweight?

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Chepppaaa wrote:
IKSRTFO wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:

okay, i will now explain you some things.

bradley is a 5'6 feather fisted midget, who beat light welterweights, who are also to small, height wise and physicly wise for welterweight, provod 5'6 and marquez 5'6.
neither provod nor marquez have ever beaten a big full blown welterweight. bradley is so bad at welterweight that he cant even convincingly beat a nobody like diego, who got wrecked in 10 by thurman.

thurman is a 5′ 7½″ big monster, with middleweight power. he can move well and improved in every segmant. thurman would laugh at bradley punches, were bradley would trumble by thurmans punches. physicly a total mismatch.

brook is an super athletic 5'9 boxer, who moves better, more fluid than bradley and same as thurman or other grown welterweight would laugh at bradley non excisting power. brook would pick him appart.

1. 5'6 vs 5'71/2. Whooaaa big difference. 5'6 = midget and 5'7 = monster
2. While they're the same height, Bradley is naturally bigger than Pacquiao
3. If Bradley has no power, how on Earth was he backing Alexander up and dropping Peterson. Alexander wasn't that worried about Maidana who you claim would KO Bradley.
4. Didn't Marquez beat Alvarado, a full blown welter. If Alvarado isn't, then Maidana isn't neither. (Remember his excuse for losing to Alexander, another 140er who moved up)
5. If his defense is so bad, why hasn't ANYONE KO'd him?

5'6 and 5'7 1/2 is maybe not a big difference, but a difference. also thurman is physivcly just bigger and stronger than bradley

stop with alexander.....also sh/()t.....maidanas power > bradleys all day

alvarado is light welter. maidana is welter, because his body is naturaly bigger than alvarados. maidana got big strong shoulders and arms. his whole build from legs to neck is big. welterweight is the perfect division for maidana.

although i hate a lot on timmy, one thing he got and that is chin, bradley is a warrior and hell yeah can he take a big punch. but guys like thurman or maidana would physicly to much for him, i wounder how he survived provodnikov
:lol:

Maidana is just the same a welter as Alvarado. Alvarado is 5'9 which is taller than both Maidana and Thurman who you claim is so big.
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Re: Are pac n floyd 1 and 2 at welterweight?

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IKSRTFO wrote:Then I guess Peterson must have Floyd's number huh? Floyd also got lit up by Erik Morales.
I don't believe I was stating in every case because if that's the case according to Khan he lit up Manny, so does that mean he has Pacquiao's number??

My argument wasn't whether or not someone is able to get someone's "number" it was a matter if they learned something from the sparring about the person they sparred with.

Maybe your brain is wired to be on the attack always against Floyd so you interpreted this asinine message from your ass. Did Floyd buttblast you or something? You sure look for any opportunity to hate on him, it seems downright personal between you and him. Makes me wonder what he did that hurt you so badly that you look for any and every opportunity to get back at him.

Pretty damn pathetic if you ask me.
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