Manny having problems with Sparring Partners that Mimic Floyd's style

[ajwesty13]

broner surely

[Badhusker]

Duh Freddie, there's a reason Floyd is choosing to fight your boy NOW instead of years ago. He's not stupid. He knows Manny has slowed down a tick.

Duh Sr, there's a reason Manny is choosing to fight your boy NOW instead of years ago. He's not stupid. He knows Floyd has slowed down a tick.

You dont seriously believe Manny was the one who didnt want that fight yrs ago, do you? You cant really believe that. No one with a functioning brain really believes that. Unless your IQ is less than 12 it is obvious Floyd was the one swerving it.

It depends on what time frame you choose to look into. Floyd's goal coming back after 19 months was to take back his lost pfp status by fighting Manny. At the time Manny's team had absolutely no problem with any types of tests, but said no way at 147. JMM called Floyd out, and was #2pfp at the time. In that fight, Floyd was only a 2-1 favorite, believe it or not. After Floyd dominated JMM, things began to get ugly and complicated trying to get Floyd and Manny to agree.

Do I think Manny was afraid to fight Floyd then or vice-versa? No. I do think though, because of their actions, that Manny's team didn't want it. Mainly Arum. The blood test excuse was horrible. I do blame both somewhat for not getting it done then, but when you have two prima donnas, negotiations are tough, as we still witness today. Although no one is totally innocent, I firmly feel today that Arum was the one all along that kept it from happening.

[KBB]

It depends on what time frame you choose to look into. Floyd's goal coming back after 19 months was to take back his lost pfp status by fighting Manny. At the time Manny's team had absolutely no problem with any types of tests, but said no way at 147. JMM called Floyd out, and was #2pfp at the time. In that fight, Floyd was only a 2-1 favorite, believe it or not. After Floyd dominated JMM, things began to get ugly and complicated trying to get Floyd and Manny to agree.

Do I think Manny was afraid to fight Floyd then or vice-versa? No. I do think though, because of their actions, that Manny's team didn't want it. Mainly Arum. The blood test excuse was horrible. I do blame both somewhat for not getting it done then, but when you have two prima donnas, negotiations are tough, as we still witness today. Although no one is totally innocent, I firmly feel today that Arum was the one all along that kept it from happening.

For me it doesn't matter what timeframe you look at it from, Manny was scared to death and used the drug testing as a reason to avoid having his ass whupped just as what will happen to him on May 2nd and the entire world will get to see for themselves why Pacquiao has been ducking all these years.

People continue to say things like "Manny agreed to the drug testing" but in reality that was merely a statement he made for public edification without having signed a contract stating he legally agreed to it.

Unlike these nuthugging Pacquiao turds here who give Manny a pass every chance they get, I remain a real boxing fan and call it like I see it and for that I will never get any love here from them and frankly I don't give a f*ck.

When they are wrong all they do is come back with lame insults and no facts to attack one's character because they lack any real facts to dispute you.

I'm used to being put on ignore (all cowards will do this, it's called running) and I'm used to being insulted (all lames will do this when they have no credible response).

Manny was afraid of Floyd and still is, the only reason why he is taking this fight now is because he needs the money due to the taxes he owes and he knows his time is limited in this sport and he'll never get another opportunity like this to make this kind of money facing anyone else.

Those fights in Macau and all the BS PPV numbers that Arum quoted him having is just another farce to build up the so called "great guy" image they claim Manny to be.

[easygoer13]

KBB

....that's a joke....lets get real about the testing...Floyd said he would fight Manny and than at the last minute wanted drug testing that had never been used before in the history of Professional Prize Fighting ...and the Floyd boys just jumped right in step ....never mind all the talk until then was about how easy a fight it was for Floyd and Manny is not in Floyd's league ...suddenly Floyd is goodwill ambassador for cleaning up boxing .....few seem to remember another excuse was Rodger and that he "may go to jail" ....never happened and never was going to happen....Floyd never liked the fight and that's all it was ...yes Arum is dirt ...sure....but Floyd never wanted the fight...Manny beats Floyd if he is smart and uses his foot speed ....if not Floyd wins as he counter him all night.....I think Floyd wins the fight but it is still a fight he never wanted

[Pureist]

Let's test your theory kbb, you just stated that the ppv numbers from Macau were BS, that pacquaio was scared and that's why he didn't sign, where is the proof for both of those accusations or are they just your opinion, the same as what you just bagged pacquaio supporters for doing, I'm sure that you have the proof because you would look really stupid again if you didn't, can you supply links please

[Pureist]

RE:Floyd Mayweather said -NOT WILLING TO RISK HEALTH TO ...
Video for floyd saying he wont fight pacquaico, his health is more imprtant▶ 8:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DeP33mGJ3E
Sep 21, 2012 - Uploaded by FLOMO SAPIAN
Floyd saying he is not willing to risk his life to fight Manny, one wrong move is all it takes ...------------------- watch this, from the horses mouth---------------Video for floyd video saying his health is more important▶ 3:36
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwbGSug-nJE
May 5, 2012 - Uploaded by REALHIPHOPNEWZ
Highlights of this video: "Health is more important" "Rich coward" Quack quack quack ...------- that seems like a legitimate duck to me

[lvlarc]

All fun and mind games....Come fight night, Pacquiao is going to be in the zone and clown Floyd.

[Datsue]

RE:Floyd Mayweather said -NOT WILLING TO RISK HEALTH TO ...
Video for floyd saying he wont fight pacquaico, his health is more imprtant▶ 8:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DeP33mGJ3E
Sep 21, 2012 - Uploaded by FLOMO SAPIAN
Floyd saying he is not willing to risk his life to fight Manny, one wrong move is all it takes ...------------------- watch this, from the horses mouth---------------Video for floyd video saying his health is more important▶ 3:36
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwbGSug-nJE
May 5, 2012 - Uploaded by REALHIPHOPNEWZ
Highlights of this video: "Health is more important" "Rich coward" Quack quack quack ...------- that seems like a legitimate duck to me

Nooooooooooooo, your hatred for black people is causing you to put words in the mouth of the convicted wife-beater...

What Floyd meant when he said that his "health is more important" is that, uh...

Manny has affairs, yo? & uh... Freddie's a shill... &, uh...

Racist.

PS: The Illuminati made him say it.

[Datsue]

Duh Freddie, there's a reason Floyd is choosing to fight your boy NOW instead of years ago. He's not stupid. He knows Manny has slowed down a tick.

Duh Sr, there's a reason Manny is choosing to fight your boy NOW instead of years ago. He's not stupid. He knows Floyd has slowed down a tick.

You dont seriously believe Manny was the one who didnt want that fight yrs ago, do you? You cant really believe that. No one with a functioning brain really believes that. Unless your IQ is less than 12 it is obvious Floyd was the one swerving it.

I think you have your answer.

[Pureist]

How will this be explained, any ideas, hypnotised, maybe he was drugged, floyds PED test your head grows, they must have injected in his ears

[uptconnect]

Lets be honest, if anyone could accurately mimic Floyd, or even Manny, for that matter-
They wouldn't be spending time as road traveling sparring partners, they would be elite in their own right.
Steve Forbes, due to his long history with the Mayweather family trainers over the bulk of his career, is probably the closest thing prior Floyd's opponents have ever been able to find, and he's willing to travel haha but again, if I'm being honest, figuring out Stevie's style in sparring and abusing him might be a bad thing if you think you're figuring out Floyd and will have the answers come fight night. Different animals completely.

I know Forbes is old as hell now and isn't being used by Manny's camp, my point is just that both camps and fighters would be wise to just train their asses off like never before and not worry much about finding a mimic, because it's a bit more than the style of fighting that Manny and Floyd bring that makes them what they are as fighters, and they aren't going to find an accurate mimic, anyways. The group of Spartners both sides have are probably already as good as any they can find.

[AntonS]

Hi again guys :P
I recommend you refrain hanging shite when quoting other members' comment. They're entitled to it, providing it ain't defamatory.
Opinions are like backsides......everyone has one, therefore keep the forum user friendly :P

[KBB]

RE:Floyd Mayweather said -NOT WILLING TO RISK HEALTH TO ...
Video for floyd saying he wont fight pacquaico, his health is more imprtant▶ 8:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DeP33mGJ3E
Sep 21, 2012 - Uploaded by FLOMO SAPIAN
Floyd saying he is not willing to risk his life to fight Manny, one wrong move is all it takes ...------------------- watch this, from the horses mouth---------------Video for floyd video saying his health is more important▶ 3:36
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwbGSug-nJE
May 5, 2012 - Uploaded by REALHIPHOPNEWZ
Highlights of this video: "Health is more important" "Rich coward" Quack quack quack ...------- that seems like a legitimate duck to me

This is all the facts you need to know, none of that indicates a duck because they weren't in LEGAL CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS!! It's too bad idiots like you and Datsue think that fighters hurling words around for media consumption is the same as legal contract negotiations.

When they sat down the ONE and ONLY time to legally make this fight happen back in 2010 it was Manny who was scared of needles, scared of having a little bit of blood drawn and scared to get his ass whupped by Floyd and that is the reason why he DUCKED the fight when everyone really wanted to see it then.

FACTS ARE BELOW!!

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing--fl ... fight.html

[koolkc107]

I hope no one finds it slanderous or libelous to quote someone verbatim...

Here is Pacquiao's statement:

"I am still willing to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. I never said the fight was off or I do not want to fight him. I will fight anyone at anytime and my record and past fights prove that. I have never and will never dodge anyone. These are my specifications for this fight regarding blood testing. I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the (press conference). I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room . I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime, anywhere, every day leading up to the fight.

"The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight. That does not make sense to me why anyone would do that. These accusations of me using any performance enhancing supplements are totally unwarranted and unjustified.

"To all of my fans I want to say thank you very much for all your support and understanding. I always give honor to God first and I would never cheat. I would never cheat God, I would never cheat myself, and I would never cheat my country and my fans.

"If Floyd Mayweather Jr. does not accept these terms [then] my promoter will find me another fight for March the 13. Again, I will fight anyone at any time. I would always like to be known for my honor and my integrity. I will always be known for my courage and my willingness to face any man at anytime in my career. If Floyd Mayweather Jr. truly ever wanted to fight me and he is not really scared, he would accept these terms I am willing to give him as they are above and beyond what the commission demands.

"I should not have to prove myself as I have always done what the commission has asked me to do, and I have never, ever swayed from that. Never has there been a time where anything I have ever done has been in question. I stand behind my honor and my integrity. I stand below God and my country. I stand with my fans and I hope Floyd is not really a coward and will fight me, and give the fans what they want to see. I am not afraid to fight Floyd, anywhere, any time."


http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post ... od-testing

The first underlined is the utterly ridiculous nonsensical statement about the effects of withdrawing blood made from a guy who already was heavily tattooed and who has become more so since.

The second underlined lets you know which guy backed out of the fight.

[AntonS]

That's been repeated & repeated over & over again, so what is the purpose yet again? IMO, nothing more than a frigging YAWN

[AntonS]

To me it appears fair few of members' comments are for sake of posting

[koolkc107]

The purpose is to remind myopians that, no matter how much their objectivity may be skewed by a mindless fanboy denial of every potentially negative thing which someone may write about their hero, THAT THE TRUTH IS STILL OUT THERE and that the truth will never be libelous or slanderous.

Seems some folks have trouble parsing that...

[KBB]

To me it appears fair few of members' comments are for sake of posting

It's just a few of the pacTURDS (Datsue and Pureist) who decided that they didn't like the truth I posted in my opinion and decided to start hurling insults to try and deter people from seeing the truth as Kool and I have both posted here.

Whenever you post something that is fact here, they all come out of the closet and start calling you names and acting like little emotional women (3rd graders) but I expect that they will continue because their feeble little minds cannot fathom a valid response.

[koolkc107]

To me it appears fair few of members' comments are for sake of posting

It's just a few of the pacTURDS (Datsue and Pureist) who decided that they didn't like the truth I posted in my opinion and decided to start hurling insults to try and deter people from seeing the truth as Kool and I have both posted here.

Whenever you post something that is fact here, they all come out of the closet and start calling you names and acting like little emotional women (3rd graders) but I expect that they will continue because their feeble little minds cannot fathom a valid response.

All they have to do if they see something that is false or in error is present evidence from a valid source of what they found to be wanting.

The fact that they haven't probably means they can't.

And that is why they go juvenile instead.

Guys are even blocking folks, the message board equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ear and breaking out with the "La-La-La" mantra.

Pathetic, really.

[KBB]

To me it appears fair few of members' comments are for sake of posting

It's just a few of the pacTURDS (Datsue and Pureist) who decided that they didn't like the truth I posted in my opinion and decided to start hurling insults to try and deter people from seeing the truth as Kool and I have both posted here.

Whenever you post something that is fact here, they all come out of the closet and start calling you names and acting like little emotional women (3rd graders) but I expect that they will continue because their feeble little minds cannot fathom a valid response.

All they have to do if they see something that is false or in error is present evidence from a valid source of what they found to be wanting.

The fact that they haven't probably means they can't.

And that is why they go juvenile instead.

Guys are even blocking folks, the message board equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ear and breaking out with the "La-La-La" mantra.

Pathetic, really.

LOL, very pathetic that they allow a little debate to get under their skin so much so that they ignore having a decent conversation but instead they chose to make an ass of themselves by hurling insults when you provide facts they cannot stomach.

It just goes to show the level of emotions they have is the equivalent of a woman on her menstrual cycle.

[koolkc107]

That's been repeated & repeated over & over again, so what is the purpose yet again? IMO, nothing more than a frigging YAWN

Seems you have a lot of stuff being repeated on this board over and over again.

So my question to you is this...what is the difference in this from the stuff repeated about Floyd or any other fighter?

Hell, this is truth AND from the fighters own mouth.

I don't see you locking those threads...