Broner-Porter to Rumble

[SenorPipino]

Intrigued by the just announced showdown between 2 Ohio products---former welterweight champions Adrien Broner and Shawn Porter.

The bout is slated for June 20 in Las Vegas and will be televised by NBC. Naturally, it will be one of those Haymon cards.

Apparently the match will be contested at a catchweight of about 145 lbs. since Porter is a full-fledged welter and Broner has been concentrating at the jr. welter limit since losing to Maidana.

Should be an interesting matchup between an aggressive brawler in Porter and a guy who has recently become more of a boxer in Broner.

Broner has looked less than scintillating since being outpointed by Maidana, and you might want to consider Porter the betting favorite in this one.
However, in his title losing effort to Kell Brook, an aggressive Porter showed that he could be pot-shotted and countered with his sloppy lunging style.

If Broner resists the urge to get caught up in a grinding, inside fight, he should be able to outpoint Porter. Like Brook did, Broner would be wise to hold and tie up the stronger Porter to offset his inside attack.

[KBB]

Intrigued by the just announced showdown between 2 Ohio products---former welterweight champions Adrien Broner and Shawn Porter.

The bout is slated for June 20 in Las Vegas and will be televised by NBC. Naturally, it will be one of those Haymon cards.

Apparently the match will be contested at a catchweight of about 145 lbs. since Porter is a full-fledged welter and Broner has been concentrating at the jr. welter limit since losing to Maidana.

Should be an interesting matchup between an aggressive brawler in Porter and a guy who has recently become more of a boxer in Broner.

Broner has looked less than scintillating since being outpointed by Maidana, and you might want to consider Porter the betting favorite in this one.
However, in his title losing effort to Kell Brook, an aggressive Porter showed that he could be pot-shotted and countered with his sloppy lunging style.

If Broner resists the urge to get caught up in a grinding, inside fight, he should be able to outpoint Porter. Like Brook did, Broner would be wise to hold and tie up the stronger Porter to offset his inside attack.

I smell BS here with regards to the 145lb stipulation, both guys walk around far heavier than 155 so the weight shouldn't be a factor either man but my guess is that this is done to favor Broner by draining Porter down below the WW limit where he is stronger.

I hope Porter KO's this fool but my guess is that more than likely he outboxes Porter (I hope not).

[KBB]

Broner is a smaller physical specimen that Porter. The catchweight seems reasonable to me.

Broner is not smaller than Porter, they are roughly the same size.

Broner is 5-7

Porter is 5-6

Consider the fact that both of them appear to be bulky

[Andrew]

Excited about this one my main concern is how Porter is with the weight.

Hope he absolutely destroys AB though

[jujigatame]

The catchweight is stupid, if Broner has already ate his way out of the JWW division they should just fight at WW.

I think Porter takes this, BTW.

[Ricky_]

I like Porter for the KO.

[SenorPipino]

I like Porter for the KO.

Maidana's probably a stronger guy physically and power-wise than Porter. He couldn't stop Broner, who gave a very gutsy performance in defeat, like him or not.

Can't see Porter doing what the Argentine couldn't.

If anything, the catchweight would favor Porter since he only has to drop a couple lbs. from the 147 limit, while Broner has been fighting at 140 for the last year. A big advantage for Porter.

There is some sort of rehydrating stipulation, which limits either man from weighing more than 155 the day of the fight. That would obviously favor Broner, but why should he step in the ring with a middleweight?

[IKSRTFO]

Intrigued by the just announced showdown between 2 Ohio products---former welterweight champions Adrien Broner and Shawn Porter.

The bout is slated for June 20 in Las Vegas and will be televised by NBC. Naturally, it will be one of those Haymon cards.

Apparently the match will be contested at a catchweight of about 145 lbs. since Porter is a full-fledged welter and Broner has been concentrating at the jr. welter limit since losing to Maidana.

Should be an interesting matchup between an aggressive brawler in Porter and a guy who has recently become more of a boxer in Broner.

Broner has looked less than scintillating since being outpointed by Maidana, and you might want to consider Porter the betting favorite in this one.
However, in his title losing effort to Kell Brook, an aggressive Porter showed that he could be pot-shotted and countered with his sloppy lunging style.

If Broner resists the urge to get caught up in a grinding, inside fight, he should be able to outpoint Porter. Like Brook did, Broner would be wise to hold and tie up the stronger Porter to offset his inside attack.

I smell BS here with regards to the 145lb stipulation, both guys walk around far heavier than 155 so the weight shouldn't be a factor either man but my guess is that this is done to favor Broner by draining Porter down below the WW limit where he is stronger.

I hope Porter KO's this fool but my guess is that more than likely he outboxes Porter (I hope not).

It will be as there is a rehydration clause of 155 and Porter is naturally bigger and Broner is pretty small come fight night weight.

[KBB]

It will be as there is a rehydration clause of 155 and Porter is naturally bigger and Broner is pretty small come fight night weight.

Do you have ANY facts to support this claim???

[IKSRTFO]

Broner is a smaller physical specimen that Porter. The catchweight seems reasonable to me.

Broner is not smaller than Porter, they are roughly the same size.

Broner is 5-7

Porter is 5-6

Consider the fact that both of them appear to be bulky

Porter is naturally bigger. Unlike Broner, he is not fat when he walks around heavy. He was an amateur at 165lbs Porter has fought above 160 when Broner was at 130.

[IKSRTFO]

It will be as there is a rehydration clause of 155 and Porter is naturally bigger and Broner is pretty small come fight night weight.

Do you have ANY facts to support this claim???

http://www.BS.com/porter-discu ... ash--90969

[KBB]

It will be as there is a rehydration clause of 155 and Porter is naturally bigger and Broner is pretty small come fight night weight.

Do you have ANY facts to support this claim???

http://www.BS.com/porter-discu ... ash--90969

Cool but the CW/rehydration favors Broner and it's clear to see that neither man is bigger than the other.

[Yes We Can]

Porter getting desperate to get back in the mix. the weight and second weigh in heavily stack the odds in Broner's favour, But you have to consider the fact Broners gunna be shifting 60lbs of pure lard in the run up to the fight, I just cant see Porter blowing up to much so will that factor in.

I'm calling it now that both guys miss weight on both sets of scales.

[IKSRTFO]

I like Porter for the KO.

Maidana's probably a stronger guy physically and power-wise than Porter. He couldn't stop Broner, who gave a very gutsy performance in defeat, like him or not.

Can't see Porter doing what the Argentine couldn't.

If anything, the catchweight would favor Porter since he only has to drop a couple lbs. from the 147 limit, while Broner has been fighting at 140 for the last year. A big advantage for Porter.

There is some sort of rehydrating stipulation, which limits either man from weighing more than 155 the day of the fight. That would obviously favor Broner, but why should he step in the ring with a middleweight?

He already did something the Argentine couldn't....he beat Alexander.

[SenorPipino]

I like Porter for the KO.

Maidana's probably a stronger guy physically and power-wise than Porter. He couldn't stop Broner, who gave a very gutsy performance in defeat, like him or not.

Can't see Porter doing what the Argentine couldn't.

If anything, the catchweight would favor Porter since he only has to drop a couple lbs. from the 147 limit, while Broner has been fighting at 140 for the last year. A big advantage for Porter.

There is some sort of rehydrating stipulation, which limits either man from weighing more than 155 the day of the fight. That would obviously favor Broner, but why should he step in the ring with a middleweight?

He already did something the Argentine couldn't....he beat Alexander.

After seeing Alexander's non-performance against Khan-job, I don't consider beating him to be that great a feat.

[KBB]

After seeing Alexander's non-performance against Khan-job, I don't consider beating him to be that great a feat.

I agree with you wholeheartedly and it's funny that Alexander wasn't even a big deal when Porter beat him but somehow after Khan beat him then all of sudden the overhyping of Amir began and the blowing up of Devon happened at the same time.

The most I can say is in that Khan beating Alexander showed us more about who Devon Alexander really was as a fighter, he was very limited, he made no adjustments in the Khan fight at all.

[Bobbyptsd]

Porter by SD, that most see as a clear win for Shawn. I'm thinking since it's in Cincinnati and all that....

As I said in another thread, if he had trouble dealing with Maidana's pressure, it's going to be rough.

Broner is talented, but doesn't throw enough. Pressure guys are always a bad match up for that style.

[Bobbyptsd]

After seeing Alexander's non-performance against Khan-job, I don't consider beating him to be that great a feat.

I agree with you wholeheartedly and it's funny that Alexander wasn't even a big deal when Porter beat him but somehow after Khan beat him then all of sudden the overhyping of Amir began and the blowing up of Devon happened at the same time.

The most I can say is in that Porter beating Khan showed us more about who Devon Alexander really was as a fighter, he was very limited, he made no adjustments in the Khan fight at all.

I think you meant Khan beating Alexander.

Also, you forgot to mention Floyd and Manny five or six times.

[Bobbyptsd]

Could we possibly be overrating Shawn Porter somehow? Could his so-called devastating stoppage over Paul Malignaggi and the fairly comfortable decision victory against Devon Alexander, merely be down to the fact that he defeated guys that were on the decline somehow?

I seem to recall seeing Porter become frustrated when he ran out of ideas against Kell Brook. Shawn also engaged in closely-competitive encounters against Alfonso Gomez & Julio Diaz, who were both small welterweights and far less talented fighters than Adrien Broner.

I also feel that the 144lb catch-weight stipulation, coupled with the 155lb rehydration limit, could also slightly weaken the heavily muscled Porter, who is a pretty darn huge welterweight.

I believe that people are drawing too many comparisons with Broner’s performance against Maidana and the potential outcome of his fight with Porter.

Broner had only recently jumped two weight divisions when he attempted to defend his newly-acquired world title against a probable 165lb+ behemoth known as Marcos Maidana. I also feel that the Mexican is more talented and possesses more power than ‘Showtime’ does.

However, this time around, Adrien has spent some time campaigning around the 140lb weight class, so he’s grown slightly, and he’ll also be facing a weight-drained Shawn Porter, who I feel (like Broner) is a tad overrated.

I’m won’t profess to being an expert on either guy, but my initial thoughts are… Broner wins this one by a unanimous decision.

It's certainly possible. I just think he has a bad style specifically for Broner. He (Broner) probably beats most guys at 140 in my view, hell, he probably beats many of the top guys at 147. I believe he should stay away from pressure fighters though, especially big strong ones.

If the weight has an effect on Porter as you suggest, that could be quite an advantage for Broner though.

Also, Maidana is Argentinian, just pointing that out.

[Bobbyptsd]

I'm not sure now, I know he was for Brook, but don't know since then. I got a little distracted because I went to look at his (Conte's) twitter feed and a little ways down Malignaggi is basically calling him a piece of shiit, which I found entertaining.

[Bobbyptsd]

I looked at bit further down his feed, and it indicates to me Conte is in fact still working with Porter.

Also, I had forgotten Porter is also from Ohio, so I guess that wouldn't really be an advantage for Broner.

[diddy]

Porter wins this going away, but being that its apparently in Cincy I cannot bet on it. Mama didnt raise no fool. Porter will win the fight in the court of the public opinion. Couldnt care less how the judges end up scoring it - and it's hilarious that there's not only a catchweight but a 2nd day weigh in. LMAO. That is what Haymon REALLY thinks of Broner against the top guys. He needs hometown, catchweight AND a 2nd day weigh in rehydro clause. F'n ridiculous.

[diddy]

I'm not sure now, I know he was for Brook, but don't know since then. I got a little distracted because I went to look at his (Conte's) twitter feed and a little ways down Malignaggi is basically calling him a piece of shiit, which I found entertaining.

Well… I’m not making accusations, but Porter was a run-of-the-mill type of fighter and then Conte joined his team, which led to an immediate and dramatic improvement in his performances, as he went from a grinder to a big puncher.

When it was announced that Eddie Hearn requested USADA testing for the Brook fight, a bout that was Porter’s mandatory (that he tried to get out of), Shawn’s performance dipped (immediately and fairly dramatically).

As well as the catch-weight stipulations, the rehydration limit and the USADA testing that Shawn has to adhere to for the Broner fight (as PED testing is standard with the PBC), it may be interesting to see if Porter’s relatively poor performance against Brook was either down to a proverbial “bad day at the office” (if he returns to form) or if he puts in another shabby outing (as this may indicate unscrupulous practices somehow).

Google the phrase “Victor Conte BALCO scandal” and also consider the following quote from Paulie Malignaggi, when he said that Shawn Porter has “evolved from being a grinder who can wear you down to a grinder who can hurt you badly with his punching power”… and it seems that the change to his punching power occurred almost immediately upon the introduction of Victor Conte to Showtime’s team prior to the Devon Alexander fight.

Broner cant hold Brook's jock. Brook is also a huge welter. That's a big reason Porter's punches had less effect on Brook. Brook is no Paulie.

[Lancenix]

This rehydration limit the morning of the fight after the catchweight is all to favor Broner. The truth is that Broner is a clown and I wish porter would have passed on this fight rather than trying to make 144 and then limit his rehydration. He should have just stayed and WW and waited for his time while fighting other guys. I hope Porter exposes broner for the bitch that he is.

[diddy]

This rehydration limit the morning of the fight after the catchweight is all to favor Broner. The truth is that Broner is a clown and I wish porter would have passed on this fight rather than trying to make 144 and then limit his rehydration. He should have just stayed and WW and waited for his time while fighting other guys. I hope Porter exposes broner for the bitch that he is.

Agreeing to all these demands just shows Porter's disdain for Broner's skills.