Betting thread

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Re: Betting thread

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Tarkus wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote: This bet was clearly a speculative punt though. One for the buzz. Putting big money on a stoppage wouldn't have been a good bet but people bet for different reasons. I know people who wouldn't dream of betting more than a tenner, 60% return for them isn't worth it. If you're sticking a ton on then it clearly is.
Well whatever floats your boat as they say. Some get buzz from buying lottery tickets. I think its a waste of money. For me betting on boxing is not for winning the money but for fun of beating casino.
Personally, I'm with you on boxing but I'm always partial to the odd speculative punt on a centre half to be first scorer at 28/1 and a scorecast on a game with a 66/1 outcome. I guess people see boxing that way for a bet.
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Re: Betting thread

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Tarkus wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote: This bet was clearly a speculative punt though. One for the buzz. Putting big money on a stoppage wouldn't have been a good bet but people bet for different reasons. I know people who wouldn't dream of betting more than a tenner, 60% return for them isn't worth it. If you're sticking a ton on then it clearly is.
Well whatever floats your boat as they say. Some get buzz from buying lottery tickets. I think its a waste of money. For me betting on boxing is not for winning the money but for fun of beating casino.
If you look at my betting slips which i post up regularly I do pretty well out of my bets, if I fancy a fight I will bet a bit more but the most I've ever bet is £75, I wouldn't risk £75 on a degale points decision on a fight like this in the U.S. against a proven fighter to gain £35 Even though prior to the fight on this thread I did state it was the most likely outcome.

Even the Pac v Mayweather fight where i was 1000% confident it would be a floyd points win, i stuck to the increased odd £10 maximum sign up bets rather than lumping a wedge on it and then took a couple of cheeky £10 punts for high odds just for a bit of a buzz bet, i still ended up about £60 up. Someone on here once told a story about a guy they knew who used to bet his entire student loan installment on sure bets and did very well until one time he lost on a Hopkins fight and ended up being the first case of Scurvy in England in a decade.

If you look at the type of bets i put on (including loosing ones) you'll see I tend to stick to fairly low stakes with higher odds unless im fairly certain but it still has to be at least 2/1 odd to make catch my interest. If i loose £5 / £10 here or there what do i care? if i loose more than £100 i would be kicking myself even if a £100 loss isnt going to leave my kids hungry.

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Re: Betting thread

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Finn wrote:
Tarkus wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote: This bet was clearly a speculative punt though. One for the buzz. Putting big money on a stoppage wouldn't have been a good bet but people bet for different reasons. I know people who wouldn't dream of betting more than a tenner, 60% return for them isn't worth it. If you're sticking a ton on then it clearly is.
Well whatever floats your boat as they say. Some get buzz from buying lottery tickets. I think its a waste of money. For me betting on boxing is not for winning the money but for fun of beating casino.
If you look at my betting slips which i post up regularly I do pretty well out of speculative bets, if I fancy a fight I will bet a bit more but the most I've ever bet is £75, I wouldn't risk £75 on a degale points decision on a fight like this in the U.S. against a proven fighter to gain £35 Even though prior to the fight on this thread I did state it was the most likely outcome.
I am not dismissing betting on a long shot as unprofitable, it just there should be some justification for it other then its just a large odd. The fact it was against proven fighter in USA was covered by my hedge, as I explained, so the only risk was a stoppage. My assessment of that risk was lower then the return I was getting. I dont know why I repeat this five times but the amount of stake is entirely irrelevant. You bet the amount you are comfortable with and aim to beat the casino, thats all.
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Finn wrote: Someone on here once told a story about a guy they knew who used to bet his entire student loan installment on sure bets and did very well until one time he lost on a Hopkins fight and ended up being the first case of Scurvy in England in a decade.
lol. Only an idiot or a very desperate man would bet his entire money on anything, no offense. You need to have a bankroll to work with and only bet a fraction of it at a given time. If you are an irresponsible gambler you will end up in trouble, thats for sure.
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Re: Betting thread

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Tarkus wrote: I am not dismissing betting on a long shot as unprofitable, it just there should be some justification for it other then its just a large odd. The fact it was against proven fighter in USA was covered by my hedge, as I explained, so the only risk was a stoppage. My assessment of that risk was lower then the return I was getting. I dont know why I repeat this five times but the amount of stake is entirely irrelevant. You bet the amount you are comfortable with and aim to beat the casino, thats all.
The stake is kind of relevant, whats the point of winning a fiver? Those are the bets the bookies want you to place. Because for every 10 you win you end up losing all your money gained on the 1 you lose. Like i said you came close to losing your money in the second round.

For me the fun is turning a 5 or 6 hundred quids worth of profit a year from little bets i do mainly for kicks.

I know thats not a large amount to some of the guys who have some big wins on here, but as i said i only really do it for a bit of extra fun during the fight im not a serious gambler.
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Re: Betting thread

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Linares via ko / tko at 3.75 with PP.
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Finn wrote:
Tarkus wrote: I am not dismissing betting on a long shot as unprofitable, it just there should be some justification for it other then its just a large odd. The fact it was against proven fighter in USA was covered by my hedge, as I explained, so the only risk was a stoppage. My assessment of that risk was lower then the return I was getting. I dont know why I repeat this five times but the amount of stake is entirely irrelevant. You bet the amount you are comfortable with and aim to beat the casino, thats all.
The stake is kind of relevant, whats the point of winning a fiver? Those are the bets the bookies want you to place. Because for every 10 you win you end up losing all your money gained on the 1 you lose. Like i said you came close to losing your money in the second round.

For me the fun is turning a 5 or 6 hundred quids worth of profit a year from little bets i do mainly for kicks.

I know thats not a large amount to some of the guys who have some big wins on here, but as i said i only really do it for a bit of extra fun during the fight im not a serious gambler.
i'm with you finn i don't see the point of odds on betting where's the fun in that most bets that i do is normally picking the rd or group of rounds why anyone would risk 100 to win 15 is beyond me
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stevedoc wrote:
Finn wrote:
Tarkus wrote: I am not dismissing betting on a long shot as unprofitable, it just there should be some justification for it other then its just a large odd. The fact it was against proven fighter in USA was covered by my hedge, as I explained, so the only risk was a stoppage. My assessment of that risk was lower then the return I was getting. I dont know why I repeat this five times but the amount of stake is entirely irrelevant. You bet the amount you are comfortable with and aim to beat the casino, thats all.
The stake is kind of relevant, whats the point of winning a fiver? Those are the bets the bookies want you to place. Because for every 10 you win you end up losing all your money gained on the 1 you lose. Like i said you came close to losing your money in the second round.

For me the fun is turning a 5 or 6 hundred quids worth of profit a year from little bets i do mainly for kicks.

I know thats not a large amount to some of the guys who have some big wins on here, but as i said i only really do it for a bit of extra fun during the fight im not a serious gambler.
i'm with you finn i don't see the point of odds on betting where's the fun in that most bets that i do is normally picking the rd or group of rounds why anyone would risk 100 to win 15 is beyond me
They must have deep pockets and view betting as a serious business and not an enjoyable pastime.
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palooka wrote:
stevedoc wrote: i'm with you finn i don't see the point of odds on betting where's the fun in that most bets that i do is normally picking the rd or group of rounds why anyone would risk 100 to win 15 is beyond me
They must have deep pockets and view betting as a serious business and not an enjoyable pastime.
Not true, not in my case anyway. I explained already what is the fun about it. It is to beat the casino. As for risk it is as likely to loose money by betting on long odds as the short. You can loose 100$ by betting 10$ ten times or 100$ once. Its an illusion to think that betting 1 to gain 100 is less risky. Its all about the risk probability and reward size.
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Re: Betting thread

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Although I was destroyed in the poll I made about Khan stopping Algieri, far be it from me to be persuaded by a popular opinion. I think betting on point in this fight is gold:

Main bet - Khan to win by points 3/2
Hedge - Algieri to win 9/1
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Re: Betting thread

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Though I fancy Linares and Selby don't think I'll touch them.

Ryder win & Brook TKO pays 2.6 think I'll stick with that.
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Re: Betting thread

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ShadrachSimmo wrote:Though I fancy Linares and Selby don't think I'll touch them.

Ryder win & Brook TKO pays 2.6 think I'll stick with that.
Brook stopping Gavin? I dont like it.

In Selby/Gradovich you are looking at a points outcome I think but odds arnt good.

What about Joshua/Johnson?
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Re: Betting thread

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Tarkus wrote:
ShadrachSimmo wrote:Though I fancy Linares and Selby don't think I'll touch them.

Ryder win & Brook TKO pays 2.6 think I'll stick with that.
Brook stopping Gavin? I dont like it.

In Selby/Gradovich you are looking at a points outcome I think but odds arnt good.

What about Joshua/Johnson?
Don't think Johnson will last the distance but he should provide some rounds. Not much in the way of value.
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Re: Betting thread

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ShadrachSimmo wrote: Don't think Johnson will last the distance but he should provide some rounds. Not much in the way of value.
I will shove a tiny amount on Joshua by PTS, even hedge it with Johnson win, so if the obvious doesn't happen I am ITM.
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Re: Betting thread

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Cardle by KO 5/2 not sure Evans is ready for the step up I hope i'm wrong but I can see him gassing and just being caught in the ropes in the last 4 rounds
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Re: Betting thread

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Apparently bet365 will have a market available on Kosei Tanaka Vs Julian Yedras sometime on Friday evening...going to be an interesting one.

For what it's worth Mendoza at 1/2 to beat Melindo looks to be a steal. I know those are prohibitive to some but Melindo, whilst a better boxer, aint getting a decision in Mexico and he doesn't hit hard enough for the KO
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Re: Betting thread

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Hibbert to beat Ryan 4/5. Ryan has been inactive, 2 fights in 18 months, Hibbert has kod his last 5 and improved, I thought Hibbert nicked the first fight - think he wins clearer this time around.
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Re: Betting thread

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Agree.
having a strong double on Linares and Hibbert.
solid as a rock.
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Re: Betting thread

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Lee Selby at 5/6 to win on points looks a pretty solid bet.
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Re: Betting thread

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Thinking of going for an accy on the following-
AJ to win in rounds 4-6
Brook to win in rounds 8-12 or points
Khan to win rounds 8-12 or points
Mitchell to get the KO
Ryder to beat Blackwell
Selby to win Rounds 8 - 12 or points
Cardle to win
6 fold on the 7 possibly
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Re: Betting thread

Post by freddydoesdallas »

Think i might have a cheeky bet on villa to lift the cup and brook to stop gavin. 5/1 seems decent to me
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Re: Betting thread

Post by Emmseegee »

Khan Points
Linares (rds 7-9)
Joshua inside the distance
Brook (rds 9-12)
£10 on it for a return of £1180

:TU:
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Re: Betting thread

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Emmseegee wrote:Khan Points
Linares (rds 7-9)
Joshua inside the distance
Brook (rds 9-12)
£10 on it for a return of £1180

:TU:
Well with a punt - might join you

Who are you getting those odds with I can only get 69/1 on sky bet
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Re: Betting thread

Post by bruthead »

I've gone big on Khan points at 11/8 with hedges on Algieri points, the draw, Khan 9-12.

Small bets on Blackwell to win (6/4) and Selby points (evens).
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Re: Betting thread

Post by ElJefe »

Probably been asked a million times but I'm setting up my first betting account, only want to have 1, who is best to go with for boxing??

Thinking of doing: Ryder, Linares KO/TKO, Selby PTS, Brook KO/TKO and AJ/Johnson either over 6 rounds or 6-12KO/TKO
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