And Of Course...

punchoutsb
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Re: And Of Course...

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koolkc107 wrote: Nice!

LMAO.

All that indicates is that when I am here I tend to post a lot, which is not surprising since I am usually responding to several idiots at once.

But the stat you HAD to see but somehow failed to include was the one which has YOU responsible for almost 20% OF ALL POSTS IN THIS FORUM!!!!!

Try again, padawan.
0.18% is not 20% OF ALL POSTS IN THIS FORUM!!!!

It is actually less than 1% (about 1/5th of 1%) OF ALL POSTS IN THIS FORUM!!!!

Do none of your many computing devices have calculators?
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Re: And Of Course...

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punchoutsb wrote:
koolkc107 wrote: Nice!

LMAO.

All that indicates is that when I am here I tend to post a lot, which is not surprising since I am usually responding to several idiots at once.

But the stat you HAD to see but somehow failed to include was the one which has YOU responsible for almost 20% OF ALL POSTS IN THIS FORUM!!!!!

Try again, padawan.
0.18% is not 20% OF ALL POSTS IN THIS FORUM!!!!

It is actually less than 1% (about 1/5th of 1%) OF ALL POSTS IN THIS FORUM!!!!

Do none of your many computing devices have calculators?
They all do, but clearly I did not avail myself of them. When you are right you are right.

But even a broken clock....

In any case, now you can focus on how much you think I post or my math errors.

But if you are here every day, you are still here over twice as much as I am.
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Re: And Of Course...

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koolkc107 wrote:They all do, but clearly I did not avail myself of them. When you are right you are right.

But even a broken clock....

In any case, now you can focus on how much you think I post or my math errors.

But if you are here every day, you are still here over twice as much as I am.
Even a broken clock, but still not you. Must be frustrating.

I'm not here every day, but if thinking I am helps you through your day then have at it! You can think of me on boxrec as you surf Philippine sports pages looking for pics of Manny moving his healthy shoulder around!

Have a great weekend bud :TU:
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Re: And Of Course...

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punchoutsb wrote:
koolkc107 wrote:They all do, but clearly I did not avail myself of them. When you are right you are right.

But even a broken clock....

In any case, now you can focus on how much you think I post or my math errors.

But if you are here every day, you are still here over twice as much as I am.
Even a broken clock, but still not you. Must be frustrating.

I'm not here every day, but if thinking I am helps you through your day then have at it! You can think of me on boxrec as you surf Philippine sports pages looking for pics of Manny moving his healthy shoulder around!

Have a great weekend bud :TU:
You as well.

And I am completely correct about this non-issue, Manny's fake shoulder, and a host of other things.

But, of course, you know that already.
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Re: And Of Course...

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koolkc107 wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
koolkc107 wrote: Nice!

LMAO.

All that indicates is that when I am here I tend to post a lot, which is not surprising since I am usually responding to several idiots at once.

But the stat you HAD to see but somehow failed to include was the one which has YOU responsible for almost 20% OF ALL POSTS IN THIS FORUM!!!!!

Try again, padawan.
0.18% is not 20% OF ALL POSTS IN THIS FORUM!!!!

It is actually less than 1% (about 1/5th of 1%) OF ALL POSTS IN THIS FORUM!!!!

Do none of your many computing devices have calculators?
They all do, but clearly I did not avail myself of them. When you are right you are right.

But even a broken clock....

In any case, now you can focus on how much you think I post or my math errors.

But if you are here every day, you are still here over twice as much as I am.
And you described yourself as intelligent earlier today, ha, compared to who are you intelligent, your a tool
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Re: And Of Course...

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Would a tool inbox you privately instead of showing folks how clueless you really are?

I guess so...
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Re: And Of Course...

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koolkc107 wrote:Would a tool inbox you privately instead of showing folks how clueless you really are?

I guess so...
1. WHAT IS THE WORLD ANTI-DOPING CODE? UP

The World Anti-Doping Code (Code) is the document that harmonizes regulations regarding anti-doping in sport across all sports and all countries of the world. The Code provides a framework for anti-doping policies, rules, and regulations for sport organizations and public authorities.

2. HOW DO SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS IMPLEMENT THE CODE? UP

Signatories must make sure that their own rules and policies are in compliance with the mandatory articles and other principles of the Code. WADA assists signatories by reviewing their anti-doping rules to ensure that they are Code-compliant and, where this is not the case, by offering assistance to remedy the situation.

3. HOW DO GOVERNMENTS IMPLEMENT THE CODE? UP

Many governments cannot be legally bound by a non-governmental document such as the Code. Governments have accordingly drafted, pursuant to the Code, an International Convention under the auspices of UNESCO, the United Nations body responsible for education, science, and culture, to allow formal recognition of WADA and the Code. The UNESCO-led International Convention against Doping in Sport was unanimously adopted by the 33rd UNESCO General Conference in Paris in October 2005 and went into force in February 2007. UNESCO Member States are now working to ratify it individually according to their respective constitutional jurisdictions.

4. WHAT CAN WADA DO TO APPLY THE CODE? UP

WADA closely monitors doping cases and has the right to appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport for cases under the jurisdiction of organizations who have implemented the Code.

WADA also has powers of intervention in ensuring that Therapeutic Use Exemptions (TUEs) are consistently granted. WADA’s role in the TUE process is two-pronged: the Agency reserves the right to monitor and review any TUE granted by a federation or anti-doping agency; and athletes who requested a TUE and were denied can ask WADA to review that decision. If WADA determines that a denial of the TUE did not comply with the International Standard, the Agency can reverse the decision.

In addition, as the guardian of the World Anti-Doping Code, WADA is required to report formally on stakeholder compliance with the Code (Code Article 23.4.4).

5. WHAT HAPPENS IF A SPORTS ORGANIZATION OR A GOVERNMENT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE CODE? UP

WADA reports cases of non-compliance to its stakeholders who have jurisdiction to impose sanctions, including the International Olympic Committee (IOC). The Olympic charter was amended in 2003 to state that adoption of the Code by the Olympic movement is mandatory. Only sports that adopt and implement the Code can be included and remain in the program of the Olympic Games.

If a country does not ratify the International Convention against Doping in Sport, it may be subject to sanctions from the IOC and from other sports organizations, including losing the right to host Olympic Games.

6. WHAT IS THE SITUATION OF PROFESSIONAL LEAGUES AND SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS OUTSIDE THE OLYMPIC MOVEMENT IN RELATION TO THE CODE? UP

Members of these leagues must comply with the Code when they take part in events or tournaments under the jurisdiction of organizations that have implemented it, for example National Basketball Association or National Hockey League players playing at the Olympic Games or at World Championships. WADA is in contact with a number of these leagues and, with the support of governments and other sports organizations, hopes that all of them will accept and implement the Code in order to have one single standard for all athletes in all sports and in all countries.

7. WILL THERE BE CHANGES IN THE CODE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS? UP

The Code is a living document, and WADA ensures it evolves regularly by engaging in extensive consultation and thorough review of the Code and its associated International Standards on a periodic basis. Amendments to the original Code went into force on January 1, 2009, and further changes may occur in the future if necessary.

Article 23.6 of the Code states that: “WADA shall initiate proposed amendments to the Code and shall ensure a consultative process to both receive and respond to recommendations and to facilitate review and feedback from athletes, signatories and governments on recommended amendments. Amendments to the Code shall, after appropriate consultation, be approved by a two-thirds majority of the WADA Foundation Board including a majority of both the public sector and Olympic Movement members casting vote.” Yes you are full of crap Koorli and yes you are a tool, there is no superceding of WADA rules like you stated earlier, notice where it mentions TUE and how they can investigate
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Re: And Of Course...

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Pureist wrote:
koolkc107 wrote:Would a tool inbox you privately instead of showing folks how clueless you really are?

I guess so...
1. WHAT IS THE WORLD ANTI-DOPING CODE? UP

The World Anti-Doping Code (Code) is the document that harmonizes regulations regarding anti-doping in sport across all sports and all countries of the world. The Code provides a framework for anti-doping policies, rules, and regulations for sport organizations and public authorities.

2. HOW DO SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS IMPLEMENT THE CODE? UP

Signatories must make sure that their own rules and policies are in compliance with the mandatory articles and other principles of the Code. WADA assists signatories by reviewing their anti-doping rules to ensure that they are Code-compliant and, where this is not the case, by offering assistance to remedy the situation.

3. HOW DO GOVERNMENTS IMPLEMENT THE CODE? UP

Many governments cannot be legally bound by a non-governmental document such as the Code. Governments have accordingly drafted, pursuant to the Code, an International Convention under the auspices of UNESCO, the United Nations body responsible for education, science, and culture, to allow formal recognition of WADA and the Code. The UNESCO-led International Convention against Doping in Sport was unanimously adopted by the 33rd UNESCO General Conference in Paris in October 2005 and went into force in February 2007. UNESCO Member States are now working to ratify it individually according to their respective constitutional jurisdictions.

4. WHAT CAN WADA DO TO APPLY THE CODE? UP

WADA closely monitors doping cases and has the right to appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport for cases under the jurisdiction of organizations who have implemented the Code.

WADA also has powers of intervention in ensuring that Therapeutic Use Exemptions (TUEs) are consistently granted. WADA’s role in the TUE process is two-pronged: the Agency reserves the right to monitor and review any TUE granted by a federation or anti-doping agency; and athletes who requested a TUE and were denied can ask WADA to review that decision. If WADA determines that a denial of the TUE did not comply with the International Standard, the Agency can reverse the decision.

In addition, as the guardian of the World Anti-Doping Code, WADA is required to report formally on stakeholder compliance with the Code (Code Article 23.4.4).

5. WHAT HAPPENS IF A SPORTS ORGANIZATION OR A GOVERNMENT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE CODE? UP

WADA reports cases of non-compliance to its stakeholders who have jurisdiction to impose sanctions, including the International Olympic Committee (IOC). The Olympic charter was amended in 2003 to state that adoption of the Code by the Olympic movement is mandatory. Only sports that adopt and implement the Code can be included and remain in the program of the Olympic Games.

If a country does not ratify the International Convention against Doping in Sport, it may be subject to sanctions from the IOC and from other sports organizations, including losing the right to host Olympic Games.

6. WHAT IS THE SITUATION OF PROFESSIONAL LEAGUES AND SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS OUTSIDE THE OLYMPIC MOVEMENT IN RELATION TO THE CODE? UP

Members of these leagues must comply with the Code when they take part in events or tournaments under the jurisdiction of organizations that have implemented it, for example National Basketball Association or National Hockey League players playing at the Olympic Games or at World Championships. WADA is in contact with a number of these leagues and, with the support of governments and other sports organizations, hopes that all of them will accept and implement the Code in order to have one single standard for all athletes in all sports and in all countries.

7. WILL THERE BE CHANGES IN THE CODE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS? UP

The Code is a living document, and WADA ensures it evolves regularly by engaging in extensive consultation and thorough review of the Code and its associated International Standards on a periodic basis. Amendments to the original Code went into force on January 1, 2009, and further changes may occur in the future if necessary.

Article 23.6 of the Code states that: “WADA shall initiate proposed amendments to the Code and shall ensure a consultative process to both receive and respond to recommendations and to facilitate review and feedback from athletes, signatories and governments on recommended amendments. Amendments to the Code shall, after appropriate consultation, be approved by a two-thirds majority of the WADA Foundation Board including a majority of both the public sector and Olympic Movement members casting vote.” Yes you are full of crap Koorli and yes you are a tool, there is no superceding of WADA rules like you stated earlier, notice where it mentions TUE and how they can investigate

Well, I guess you are hellbent on showing everyone how clueless you are.

I am quite familiar with WADA. Have been every since Pac made so many excuses to not test at all.

Did you even read this?

First, try focusing on #6. Read it carefully.

Then, note that #4 only mentions TUEs that are DENIED to athletes, not rescinding ones that were granted.

Now that you've done the above, tell us all exactly wtf WADA can do about ANY of what happened.

Who can they penalize and how?

Exactly, moron, and that's why I tried to keep your idiocy private.
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I can honestly say that I have seen the term TUE more in the last 3 days than I ever have
seen in my life.
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Re: And Of Course...

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tiny_acres wrote:I can honestly say that I have seen the term TUE more in the last 3 days than I ever have
seen in my life.
The thing Floyd haters can't seem to wrap their tiny little minds around is that although it was USADA contracted to do the testing, the guidelines and rules for the testing were ultimately dictated not by WADA, but by WADA rules MODIFIED by the contract. This was not an amateur contest where WADA might have some clout. This was a professional match in which an anti-doping agency was hired to do a testing protocol specifically tailored to the tenets of a professional contract.

Hauser knows this, but chose to write the article the way he did anyway.

He has Floyd violating rules THAT WERE NOT EVEN IN FORCE for the fight.
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Cant you comprehend that its extremely incriminating for your guy, thats its been more or less proven, that he is cheating, and that he is getting away with it because he uses his money to infuence thos organs that should be independent in controlling whom is cheating. Besides acting like a retarded teen girl on crack, fighting opponents whom poses no threats, only fighting the second best, waiting to fight the best until they are over the hill, constantly having refs and judges on his side in a way, thats more than just noticeble, beating women, and a proven drug cheat. All this and more will not go away, it will not ever be forgotten, his aftermath and reputation is known as a joke and a disgrace to the sport, and by time it will only get worse. And it will not help the sligthest that you keep mention that one of the greatest fighters the sport has ever seen, used swimming in the ocean as one of many means to recoupe from a shoulder injury. It wont help. Your dude is a joke. Stop talking about some one else. Please. You are embarasing to your self.
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WADA also has powers of intervention in ensuring that Therapeutic Use Exemptions (TUEs) are consistently granted. WADA’s role in the TUE process is two-pronged: the Agency reserves the right to monitor and review any TUE granted by a federation or anti-doping agency; and athletes who requested. Can you understand anything at all kooly tool, review any TUE GRANTED by a federation or anti doping agency, Granted means it's already been given, just as usada did with floyd, review means look and see if it was done within the guidelines, your a tool kooli
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Pureist wrote:WADA also has powers of intervention in ensuring that Therapeutic Use Exemptions (TUEs) are consistently granted. WADA’s role in the TUE process is two-pronged: the Agency reserves the right to monitor and review any TUE granted by a federation or anti-doping agency; and athletes who requested. Can you understand anything at all kooly tool, review any TUE GRANTED by a federation or anti doping agency, Granted means it's already been given, just as usada did with floyd, review means look and see if it was done within the guidelines, your a tool kooli
What part of "professional athlete hiring USADA" are you not understanding? I asked you last night to pay attention to part of YOUR OWN POST.
Here it is, since you seem to need even the things YOU post spoon-fed to you:


6. WHAT IS THE SITUATION OF PROFESSIONAL LEAGUES AND SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS OUTSIDE THE OLYMPIC MOVEMENT IN RELATION TO THE CODE? UP

Members of these leagues must comply with the Code when they take part in events or tournaments under the jurisdiction of organizations that have implemented it, for example National Basketball Association or National Hockey League players playing at the Olympic Games or at World Championships. WADA is in contact with a number of these leagues and, with the support of governments and other sports organizations, hopes that all of them will accept and implement the Code in order to have one single standard for all athletes in all sports and in all countries.


Note the bolded and try to follow along.

Any authority WADA has is derived from its signatories agreeing to its approved codes and procedures AND agreeing to act on WADA's behalf in administering and enforcing those things. In the case of amateur events, like the Olympics, that works pretty well. It also works well for WADA when you have a professional organization that agrees to allow NADOs (national anti-doping organizations, like USADA) be the the sanctioning authority for its events. The Tour de France is an example of this.

Now follow this next very carefully, Purist.

The fight between Money and Pac was not under the jurisdiction of any organization that implemented or was signatory to the WADA code. USADA, a WADA signatory, was not the sanctioning authority in the fight. That would be NSAC, who IS NOT a WADA signatory. USADA was simply contracted by the fighters to administer testing similar to what is done in Olympic events (reporting those results to the sanctioning body in charge, NSAC) but MODIFIED to better suit the professional boxers. This very thing is spelled out in the contract I posted the other day. So even if WADA had any enforcement authority itself (and it doesn't, the NADOs do all the heavy lifting) it would have none in this case.

It is not odd that NSAC is not a WADA signatory. Most professional sports organization are not, tho many profess to wanting to adhere to codes similar. Here's a link to WADA's list of signatories

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/what-we-do/ ... es-in-line

And BTW, even if you were right (and I have just proved you are not only not right, but utterly clueless) it would be up to USADA to deal with Floyd, not WADA. You know, like they dealt with Lance Armstrong and, to use a boxing example, Eric Morales. (yes, USADA did some shady things there too, but they did wind up banning El Terrible for 2 years; but it should be noted Morales was planning to ignore the ban and fight again which he could have done as long as a boxing commission-non signatory- allowed him to).

But, we already know USADA's take on this. They exonerated Floyd. This is now a non-issue.
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I now understand since this thread started that you kooli are a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic, you can't add up and you can't comprehend, read section 2 where it says about signatories have to comply, Floyd signed up and the commission has to comply as well, not really hard to understand, do some homework, read about a team called essendon in the AFL in Australia and see how much power they actually have
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Re: And Of Course...

Post by cocka09 »

Ricky_ wrote:Pacquiao should move on, he won the fight with 1 arm against a guy who's now been outed and shamed, caught out by his own testing body.

Tomorrow Floyd retires and we wave goodbye to his crap fights & corruption.

There's some good fights Pacquiao can make in 2016, potentially Khan or Brook.
Wow. Just wow
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Re: And Of Course...

Post by man »

i love when people make good money.
manny - floyd II is a great payday and low
risk in terms of health for either fighter.

do it. i don't mind. though i won't stay
awake for a whole night and watch it
standing outside of an overcrowded bar
this time.
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