What scenario would most likely tempt Floyd out of retirement?

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 21 Oct 2015, 07:06

1. A rematch with Pacman, after Pacman comes back with an impressive victory against a good opponent.
2. Cotto beats Canelo and presents the opportunity for Floyd to fight for the lineal Middleweight title at a 154 lb catchweight.
3. One of Thurman/Brook/Spence cleans out the division and establishes himself as the consensus number one at the weight.
4. Khan's continued talk of Floyd chickening out of fighting him finally persuades Floyd to come back for a final fight.
5. GGG stays undefeated and emerges as the no.1 PPV attraction in the sport.
6. A buddy fight with Broner or some other low risk opponent to get his record to 50-0.
7. None of these, he stays retired.
8. Something else, not listed above (name it).

caldo2025 · Post by **caldo2025** » 21 Oct 2015, 07:17

I really think that Floyd has his eyes on the Cotto/Canelo fight next month and will make a push to fight the winner so that he could nab his 50th victory and the treasured lineal Middleweight Championship belt. And why not, he's defeated both guys easily already. Never mind this mandatory jazz about the winner having to fight GGG. An exception will be given to Cotto/Canelo in lieu of a megafight with Floyd. No sanctioning body would get in the way of Floyd's plans. And Floyd would be sticking it GGG without having to get in the ring with him. This is clearly what i think is going to happen.

Or maybe Floyd really is done. That's always a good possibility.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 21 Oct 2015, 07:22

caldo2025 wrote:I really think that Floyd has his eyes on the Cotto/Canelo fight next month and will make a push to fight the winner so that he could nab his 50th victory and the treasured lineal Middleweight Championship belt. And why not, he's defeated both guys easily already. Never mind this mandatory jazz about the winner having to fight GGG. An exception will be given to Cotto/Canelo in lieu of a megafight with Floyd. No sanctioning body would get in the way of Floyd's plans. And Floyd would be sticking it GGG without having to get in the ring with him. This is clearly what i think is going to happen.

Or maybe Floyd really is done. That's always a good possibility.

I wondered that too about the Middleweight belt but surely Floyd could have fought Cotto at whatever catchweight he wanted BEFORE Cotto fought Canelo? If he really wanted that belt then why wait for them to fight each other when Cotto is likely to lose and would have been the more marketable opponent given the one sided nature of the more recent Canelo bout?

caldo2025 · Post by **caldo2025** » 21 Oct 2015, 07:36

johnswan1 wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:I really think that Floyd has his eyes on the Cotto/Canelo fight next month and will make a push to fight the winner so that he could nab his 50th victory and the treasured lineal Middleweight Championship belt. And why not, he's defeated both guys easily already. Never mind this mandatory jazz about the winner having to fight GGG. An exception will be given to Cotto/Canelo in lieu of a megafight with Floyd. No sanctioning body would get in the way of Floyd's plans. And Floyd would be sticking it GGG without having to get in the ring with him. This is clearly what i think is going to happen.

Or maybe Floyd really is done. That's always a good possibility.
I wondered that too about the Middleweight belt but surely Floyd could have fought Cotto at whatever catchweight he wanted BEFORE Cotto fought Canelo? If he really wanted that belt then why wait for them to fight each other when Cotto is likely to lose and would have been the more marketable opponent given the one sided nature of the more recent Canelo bout?

I think that Floyd has a really good idea who is going to win the Cotto/Canelo fight having fought them both. This fight lines up perfectly with Floyd's favorite fight weekend of Cinco De Mayo. I feel that Floyd is banking on Cotto winning that fight and planning to go out in style on his favorite weekend and a historical victory. There's no way that he goes out with Berto as his last stat line. Too good of a career to end like that with a fizzle.

Plus, even if Cotto loses, a fight with Canelo on Cinco De Mayo would do just as well with the Mexican contingency. If Floyd doesn't fight in May 2016 i'd be really surprised.

davie · Post by **davie** » 21 Oct 2015, 08:35

johnswan1 wrote:1. A rematch with Pac.
a distinct posibility if it can be sold as big as the first
2. Cotto beats Canelo
I think he would consider either one, he beat them both, both fights sell, a title at a new eight class without actually having to fight someone weighing 160lbs
3. One of Thurman/Brook/Spence cleans out division
someone will rule the WW division at some point. Don't think that interests Floyd
4. Khan's continued talk of Floyd chickening out.
the more Khan talks the funnier Floyd finds it, I suspect
5. GGG stays undefeated.
GGG doesn't interest him, too great a risk. GGG continuing to spark guys out certainly isn't going to change his mind on that front
6. A buddy fight with Broner or some other low risk
as low as my opinion of floyds match making has been, i think even he knows he'll be a laughing stock if he cancels his retirement for another Berto
7. None of these, he stays retired.
possible, I just can't fathom him not going for the 50 and particularly the chance of a big payday against pac/cotto/canelo and maybe even a MW title
8. Something else, not listed above
all his money is handed over to some dodgy stock broker who gambles it away like in Rocky 5 and he ends up carrying spit buckets in the wild card gym .

Aaronide_ger · Post by **Aaronide_ger** » 21 Oct 2015, 08:48

Stop making Floyd Threads. The guy retired we need none of him. Im sick and tired of everyone still talking about him.. Lets talk the present.. Kovalev,Crawford,Ward,Golovkin,Canelo,Joshua,Parker,Spence,Thurman,Postol,Inoue,Gonzalez,Lomachenko,Degale,Williams,Wilder... Just not FLOYD..

Ricky_ · Post by **Ricky_** » 21 Oct 2015, 11:38

He's more likely to be future president or majority stake holder at USADA than fight again imo.

dudu · Post by **dudu** » 21 Oct 2015, 12:10

If he loses all his cash

man · Post by **man** » 21 Oct 2015, 17:09

the money to be made with pac II after a
media war on "cheater versus crybaby".

Tarkus · Post by **Tarkus** » 21 Oct 2015, 18:33

50th win or money problems.

GooalaShooola · Post by **GooalaShooola** » 21 Oct 2015, 18:56

jewboypgh · Post by **jewboypgh** » 23 Oct 2015, 11:44

GGG destroys him. bet the house on it

asdfjkl · Post by **asdfjkl** » 23 Oct 2015, 18:58

Finding a doctor that can help him with another way of juicing without getting cought.

The only reason he continued to fight after about 25 fights was because he cheated and bought himself to the top, it wasn't like he was any good.

tiny_acres · Post by **tiny_acres** » 23 Oct 2015, 19:34

asdfjkl wrote:Finding a doctor that can help him with another way of juicing without getting cought.

The only reason he continued to fight after about 25 fights was because he cheated and bought himself to the top, it wasn't like he was any good.

It is shitty posters like this one as to why this forum has went down the tubes.
This place used to have some great members most of them have left.

Bobbyptsd · Post by **Bobbyptsd** » 23 Oct 2015, 22:07

tiny_acres wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:Finding a doctor that can help him with another way of juicing without getting cought.

The only reason he continued to fight after about 25 fights was because he cheated and bought himself to the top, it wasn't like he was any good.
It is shitty posters like this one as to why this forum has went down the tubes.
This place used to have some great members most of them have left.

Indeed, I used to think ESB looked really ridiculous compared to this forum. Now they (particularly the CS) are about the same, and that's saying something.

It's odd because the British forum is pretty rational, nuanced discussion, but you step over here and it's all: "Floyd is no gud and alll these guyz are afraid of Matisse aneway LOLOLXD"

tiny_acres · Post by **tiny_acres** » 23 Oct 2015, 22:16

Bobbyptsd wrote:
tiny_acres wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:Finding a doctor that can help him with another way of juicing without getting cought.

The only reason he continued to fight after about 25 fights was because he cheated and bought himself to the top, it wasn't like he was any good.
It is shitty posters like this one as to why this forum has went down the tubes.
This place used to have some great members most of them have left.
Indeed, I used to think ESB looked really ridiculous compared to this forum. Now they (particularly the CS) are about the same, and that's saying something.

It's odd because the British forum is pretty rational, nuanced discussion, but you step over here and it's all: "Floyd is no gud and alll these guyz are afraid of Matisse aneway LOLOLXD"

It is the extremism of the whole damned thing.
If someone like Floyd they bash Pac or vice versa
Or if you question the quality of GGG' or Wlad's opposition and you are a hater or some type of eastern European basher.
There is no intelligent conversation with the majority of these morons.It is just bash the fighter that is not their favorite.

Bobbyptsd · Post by **Bobbyptsd** » 23 Oct 2015, 22:28

^Yeah the partisan attitude definitely effects discourse for the worse. I don't really understand why guys "choose" one fighter over another and go to such lengths to argue over them. I mean if I'm trying to make a point I'll make a couple posts and drop it. But some guys here choose one fighter and then seem to dedicate themselves to bashing his potential opposition. I wouldn't go to that kind of trouble unless someone was paying me.

And yeah, I'm a fan of boxing, of all these guys. It got especially bad with The Pac/May thing, where I really thought the animosity was strange because I think they are both all time great fighters. And I mean, again, whoever wins, I don't work for either team here, so I see no benefit.

man · Post by **man** » 24 Oct 2015, 02:34

Bobbyptsd wrote:
tiny_acres wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:Finding a doctor that can help him with another way of juicing without getting cought.

The only reason he continued to fight after about 25 fights was because he cheated and bought himself to the top, it wasn't like he was any good.
It is shitty posters like this one as to why this forum has went down the tubes.
This place used to have some great members most of them have left.
Indeed, I used to think ESB looked really ridiculous compared to this forum. Now they (particularly the CS) are about the same, and that's saying something.

It's odd because the British forum is pretty rational, nuanced discussion, but you step over here and it's all: "Floyd is no gud and alll these guyz are afraid of Matisse aneway LOLOLXD"

it thought CS has improved, it was terrible
mass two years ago.

reggaereggae · Post by **reggaereggae** » 24 Oct 2015, 09:22

Money. Needing money due to spending habits.