Can you imagine Deontay Wilder as a world champion?
Can you imagine Deontay Wilder as a world champion?
I mean if he would start fight better opposition and win all of those matches.
I think hw division needs boxers like Wilder .
He fights every 3 months and his fights are much better than Wladimir's.
His wins over bums are much more impressive than Tyson FURY's. He scored some nice knockouts and i do not find his fights boring at all. That's what i can't say about Wladimir or Fury!
I mean they are both world class fighters , but their fights lack actions and also they fight only twice per year.
I think hw division needs boxers like Wilder .
He fights every 3 months and his fights are much better than Wladimir's.
His wins over bums are much more impressive than Tyson FURY's. He scored some nice knockouts and i do not find his fights boring at all. That's what i can't say about Wladimir or Fury!
I mean they are both world class fighters , but their fights lack actions and also they fight only twice per year.
Re: Can you imagine Deontay Wilder as a world champion?
Are you a thread amoeba, dividing and conquering Current Scene with Wilder threads?
No, Szpilka does not have a nice bum.
Yes, I will enjoy Wilder's run up to and including when (in the not too distant future) he demonstrates his headless chicken for us.
No, Szpilka does not have a nice bum.
Yes, I will enjoy Wilder's run up to and including when (in the not too distant future) he demonstrates his headless chicken for us.
Re: Can you imagine Deontay Wilder as a world champion?
Tyson Fury- There are some posters on who who I usually respect who call Fury "garbage." I don't see how a big undefeated guy who beat some decent HWs like Chisora, Johnson, Hammer and Cunnighham is a bum. Oh yeah, he also beat Wlad.
Besides his natural gifts like height and reach, Fury's work to the body, educated jab, and the very underrated ability to fight orthodox and southpaw very effectively makes him someone to be reckoned with.
True, predicting gays will bring in the rapture and women belong on their backs, even if he was kidding, isn't going to bring him the title of "SIR" anytime soon.
Deontay Wilder- Before the last year or so, critics could claim that Deontay may be merely another Don Steele or Lamar Clark with a great KO run against very limited opposition. But when he stepped up to Stiverne, Duhapeaus, and Molina (yes Molina was a step up) he proved he could box, move, jab, and showed some excellent stamina.
Don't know why some fans diss Fury and Wilder at every turn. Fury and Wilder are better than Frank Bruno and Earnie Shavers, and those 2 guys were a lot of fun.
Besides his natural gifts like height and reach, Fury's work to the body, educated jab, and the very underrated ability to fight orthodox and southpaw very effectively makes him someone to be reckoned with.
True, predicting gays will bring in the rapture and women belong on their backs, even if he was kidding, isn't going to bring him the title of "SIR" anytime soon.
Deontay Wilder- Before the last year or so, critics could claim that Deontay may be merely another Don Steele or Lamar Clark with a great KO run against very limited opposition. But when he stepped up to Stiverne, Duhapeaus, and Molina (yes Molina was a step up) he proved he could box, move, jab, and showed some excellent stamina.
Don't know why some fans diss Fury and Wilder at every turn. Fury and Wilder are better than Frank Bruno and Earnie Shavers, and those 2 guys were a lot of fun.
Re: Can you imagine Deontay Wilder as a world champion?
..for the time being? NONE of the above...
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HomicideHenry
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Re: Can you imagine Deontay Wilder as a world champion?
I like Wilder, other than him knocking the snot out of Charlie Zelenoff, but I think alot of people are wanting him to be something he's just not---- he's good enough to be the second man in the world---- but not the first man in the world. He easily goes to that number two spot, when Fury defeats Vladimir again. However, based on his last few outings, and the fact that he's not all that willing to face Povetkin, shows me that he is not ready for Tyson. It would be a very entertaining fight to watch, but while he's training and taking the road far traveled, Fury is taking the road less traveled and becoming hardened under fire. Fury, whether you like him or not is sharper and more mentally focused and skilled against top tier opposition than Wilder. No offense to Deontay, who has great handspeed and a terrific punch, but because he is a power puncher---- he's not used to being hit himself--- and when he is not in control in fights, he looks helpless until he lands a bomb. I can't see him pushing Fury around.
Re: Can you imagine Deontay Wilder as a world champion?
Fury is better than I thought. He'll probably beat Wlad again.
Fury vs Wilder would be really boring unless one of them takes a chance and connects to the chin. Probably safety first.
Povetkin is too small and timid to beat Wilder unless a lottery punch happens. Otherwise, safety first here too.
Fury vs Wilder would be really boring unless one of them takes a chance and connects to the chin. Probably safety first.
Povetkin is too small and timid to beat Wilder unless a lottery punch happens. Otherwise, safety first here too.
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Undefeated49-0
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Re: Can you imagine Deontay Wilder as a world champion?
conty22 wrote:I mean if he would start fight better opposition and win all of those matches.
I think hw division needs boxers like Wilder .
He fights every 3 months and his fights are much better than Wladimir's.
His wins over bums are much more impressive than Tyson FURY's. He scored some nice knockouts and i do not find his fights boring at all. That's what i can't say about Wladimir or Fury!
I mean they are both world class fighters , but their fights lack actions and also they fight only twice per year.
Re: Can you imagine Deontay Wilder as a world champion?
What has given you the idea he is not willing or wanting to take on Povetkin? Povetkin knew the schedule, and wanted another mandatory. They are not fighting this month because of Povetkin, not Wilder. Not ready for Fury? I think you are wrong on both. We will see. That's why they fight the fights.HomicideHenry wrote:I like Wilder, other than him knocking the snot out of Charlie Zelenoff, but I think alot of people are wanting him to be something he's just not---- he's good enough to be the second man in the world---- but not the first man in the world. He easily goes to that number two spot, when Fury defeats Vladimir again. However, based on his last few outings, and the fact that he's not all that willing to face Povetkin, shows me that he is not ready for Tyson. It would be a very entertaining fight to watch, but while he's training and taking the road far traveled, Fury is taking the road less traveled and becoming hardened under fire. Fury, whether you like him or not is sharper and more mentally focused and skilled against top tier opposition than Wilder. No offense to Deontay, who has great handspeed and a terrific punch, but because he is a power puncher---- he's not used to being hit himself--- and when he is not in control in fights, he looks helpless until he lands a bomb. I can't see him pushing Fury around.
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asdfjkl
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Re: Can you imagine Deontay Wilder as a world champion?
This is why I think kickboxing is much more fair, there they have tournaments, now tournaments isn't 100% fair either, because you can face 5 easy opponends and you can face 5 hard opponends, but at least your carreer isn't allmost over before you finally reached the top.
If I'm the best heavyweight boxer in the world today, it will take me at least 2 or 3 years before I'm finally even a top contender.
And once you got a belt it's simply too easy to get around other top contenders.
Take a look at Wilder and Povetkin for example, Povetkin is a top contender for many years now, Wilder just came around the corner and had luck that other bum choose him to fight next. Even without demanding a second fight.
Now Wilder got 1,5 years! Before he finally needs to fight his mandatory. Povetkin wanted to fight all the way till he had to fight for a living again and fought Wach, because Wach had similar height as Wilder had and people said Povetkin couldn't fight tall boxers.
After that Wilder suddenly said he did want to fight Povetkin, but Povetkin just fought Wach.
For me then you're just a weak actor, especially since he ducked Povetkin before.
Now everybody says Wilder and his team are scared to fight and only offer lowball offers, except for Wilder and his team themself.
TBH I believe everybody except Wilder and his team.
If I'm the best heavyweight boxer in the world today, it will take me at least 2 or 3 years before I'm finally even a top contender.
And once you got a belt it's simply too easy to get around other top contenders.
Take a look at Wilder and Povetkin for example, Povetkin is a top contender for many years now, Wilder just came around the corner and had luck that other bum choose him to fight next. Even without demanding a second fight.
Now Wilder got 1,5 years! Before he finally needs to fight his mandatory. Povetkin wanted to fight all the way till he had to fight for a living again and fought Wach, because Wach had similar height as Wilder had and people said Povetkin couldn't fight tall boxers.
After that Wilder suddenly said he did want to fight Povetkin, but Povetkin just fought Wach.
For me then you're just a weak actor, especially since he ducked Povetkin before.
Now everybody says Wilder and his team are scared to fight and only offer lowball offers, except for Wilder and his team themself.
TBH I believe everybody except Wilder and his team.
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Roars Like Me
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Re: Can you imagine Deontay Wilder as a world champion?
I don't agree that Fury is in dull fights , if you a are referring to the Wlad fight then maybe but that's not the norm.
Back to Wilder though yes he is good for boxing so a fight with Fury makes sense. It wouldn't be boring and that's not only down to Deontay
I think Fury has his number to be honest
Back to Wilder though yes he is good for boxing so a fight with Fury makes sense. It wouldn't be boring and that's not only down to Deontay
I think Fury has his number to be honest
Re: Can you imagine Deontay Wilder as a world champion?
No i can,t imagine him as a world champion until he beats the Fury
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Undefeated49-0
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Re: Can you imagine Deontay Wilder as a world champion?
Honestly from what I saw of Fury (and that was nothing special) I can't see that being much of a problem for Wilder. I can see Ortiz being far more of a problem for both of them but moreso for Fury than for Wilder.Davidreed wrote:No i can,t imagine him as a world champion until he beats the Fury
Sorry i just don't see much impressive about Fury.
Re: Can you imagine Deontay Wilder as a world champion?
I want that Wilder should beat his opponents but its seem not any easy task. Look Fury,Wladmir still had enough experience & skills to beat any world-class player and then don,t forget Joshua, he will be also dangerous for Wilder.Undefeated49-0 wrote:Honestly from what I saw of Fury (and that was nothing special) I can't see that being much of a problem for Wilder. I can see Ortiz being far more of a problem for both of them but moreso for Fury than for Wilder.Davidreed wrote:No i can,t imagine him as a world champion until he beats the Fury
Sorry i just don't see much impressive about Fury.
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Undefeated49-0
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Re: Can you imagine Deontay Wilder as a world champion?
No doubt both are skilled but I just don't see anything special in them like I see in a guy like Ortiz, that dude has the skills.Davidreed wrote:I want that Wilder should beat his opponents but its seem not any easy task. Look Fury,Wladmir still had enough experience & skills to beat any world-class player and then don,t forget Joshua, he will be also dangerous for Wilder.
Re: Can you imagine Deontay Wilder as a world champion?
No doubt, Ortiz is a very well schooled fighter, dynamic for a big guy. Could probably give any of these guys trouble.
Wilder gets too much hate, Fury deserves some respect, I like them both. But Wilder beats him. And Wilder would have knocked Klitschko out if he had gotten that opportunity.
Wilder gets too much hate, Fury deserves some respect, I like them both. But Wilder beats him. And Wilder would have knocked Klitschko out if he had gotten that opportunity.
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Freedom2013
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Re: Can you imagine Deontay Wilder as a world champion?
Wladimir was the ideal world champion in multiple ways.
Joshua will probably make a good champ. He carries himself well, and seems intelligent. His KO power makes him great for casual fans to watch.
Fury lacks common sense and shoots his mouth off too much. His fighting style is less entertaining than any of the others.
Deontay Wilder would NOT make a good world champion - too dumb, too arrogant. Wilder sets a bad example outside the ring, for example he was arrested for choking a prostitute in Las Vegas.
http://www.BS.com/more-details ... gas--65288
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing ... -bond.html
Joshua will probably make a good champ. He carries himself well, and seems intelligent. His KO power makes him great for casual fans to watch.
Fury lacks common sense and shoots his mouth off too much. His fighting style is less entertaining than any of the others.
Deontay Wilder would NOT make a good world champion - too dumb, too arrogant. Wilder sets a bad example outside the ring, for example he was arrested for choking a prostitute in Las Vegas.
http://www.BS.com/more-details ... gas--65288
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing ... -bond.html
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marvelous marv
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Re: Can you imagine Deontay Wilder as a world champion?
Both Fury and Wilder are quite religious and donate portions of their earnings to various charitable organizations. They are both complex people and champions who are constantly evolving.
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HomicideHenry
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Re: Can you imagine Deontay Wilder as a world champion?
I'll wager it now.... Fury beats Wilder, via stoppage. Mark my words.
I was right for all these years on Fury. I won't be wrong when it comes to this.
The thoughts and flights of fancy for Wilder fanboys, is nothing more than tinted glasses.
I was right for all these years on Fury. I won't be wrong when it comes to this.
The thoughts and flights of fancy for Wilder fanboys, is nothing more than tinted glasses.