Classic fights I've watched recently

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handsofstone wrote:Chris Eubank vs Michael Watson 1

Also watched Joe Calzaghe vs Robin Reid
handsofstone wrote:Lloyd Honeyghan vs Donald Curry
handsofstone wrote:Alexis Arguello vs Jim Watt
On all of these as well,
for those of you who are interested there's a running theme over on the B & I forum, where we're working our way through some historic British fights, 1 a week and discussing, these are the fights we've covered in the first 4 weeks.

I've also recently watched Pernell Whitaker vs Azumah Nelson which was a nice blend of styles and a good fight but I particularly enjoyed the second Pernell Whitaker vs Buddy McGirt fight, which was a master class from Pernell and a damn good scrap at times as well
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Counter-puncher wrote:Herrera's left hook to the body, and also to a lesser degree a counter right to the body off the Olivares jab, were absolutely sickening in that fight. The audio isn't great by modern standards but you can hear the impact so clearly sometimes. Herrera was a pretty fucken badass fighter.
Mexican Rafael Herrera was a very underrated champion. The great Ruben Olivares couldn't crack him. I don't understand why Herrera is not in the IBHF, yet.
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Alexis Arguello vs Aaron Prior 1

Controversy aside, what a fantastic fight, enjoyed every round, agruably the best opening round I've ever watched
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On recommendation from someone on another thread George Foreman vs Ron Lyle

No style, not the most aesthetically pleasing bout I've ever watched, but 2 big men bludgeoning each other to submission.

The crowd were pleading with the ref to stop it in the end, you could hear them.
He didn't even look like he was thinking of stepping in. :o
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Counter-puncher wrote:Just watched:

Borkhorsor - rafael Herrera
Rafael Herrera - ruben olivares
Chucho Castillo - Lionel rose

On the hunt for more of Herrera. I'll probably end up rewatching the chucho Castillo fight again, that fight has me purring constantly

Davie, stoney, get on the fights above if you haven't caught them, its boxing porn all the way :TU:
Watching Borkhorsor vs Hererra.
Who's in the red trunks and who's in the white?
And does it matter?

Edit: it's OK, figured it out, Borkhorsor's the south paw in the red trunks

Edit again: That's it watched, good fight.
Crap footage and even worse commentry but a good scrap.
I had Herrera leading quite comfortably in the first half, with Borkhorsor coming back into it a bit in the second half, but for me Herrera deserved the win by 2 or 3 points.
It was difficult to see, but Herrera's face looked like he'd been hit by a train.
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Dick Tiger vs Gene Fullmer 1+3


I was only able to find highlights of the 1st fight and none of the rematch but managed to get the full 3rd fight,decent little scrap,pity about Fullmer retiring on his school,he done his best to slug it out with Tiger but was shipping some serious shots as the fight wore on

Im gonna check more of Tiger out he looks quality and super strong,like an orthodox Hagler
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Just rewatched Chang - Kittikassem. Brutal fight, in every way, lots of hard punches to head and body from both men, and quite a lot of mauling and heads going in, the fucken lot, just a gruelling trial of strength and guts and not a little skill either.

I think you'd enjoy it, stoney :TU:
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evrenb wrote:
yancey wrote:
evrenb wrote:
Hi

Was you there yancey?
Nope, in the 10th grade and 1500 miles away at the time. The replay was shown on ABC's Wide World of Sports a week or two after the fight.

I was a big Frazier fan since the '64 Olympics and by '67 with the Jones and Chuvalo fights it was clear to me that Joe was going to be a real beast.
Hi Yance - heres something for you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_fFgYjCn0o

Thanks for tipping me off on the youtube video. :TU:

The footage of the Chuvalo fight is the clearest I've seen. I noticed a commenter on youtube saying the same.
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And onto kittikassem - arbachakov. Arbachakov such a poised stylist and effortlessly powerful punch-picker, like an 8st Golovkin.
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John H Stracey vs Jose Napoles
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Counter-puncher wrote:And onto kittikassem - arbachakov. Arbachakov such a poised stylist and effortlessly powerful punch-picker, like an 8st Golovkin.
That one is his career best performance. I wouldn't change anything about it, including him getting dropped in the 2nd (or was it 3rd?). Him getting right back up to flatten Kittikasem later in the round just made his showing all the more badass. My favorite Flyweight of the 90s.
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King Carlos wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:And onto kittikassem - arbachakov. Arbachakov such a poised stylist and effortlessly powerful punch-picker, like an 8st Golovkin.
That one is his career best performance. I wouldn't change anything about it, including him getting dropped in the 2nd (or was it 3rd?). Him getting right back up to flatten Kittikasem later in the round just made his showing all the more badass. My favorite Flyweight of the 90s.
Agree on all counts, I've got a pretty major mancrush on Arbachakov and I think kittikassem was a perfect foil for him. He showed really nice punch variety that I don't recall always being his strong suit, his little adjustments with his feet and/or slip-counters, the fast crisp powerful right hands, and the finisher was a crushing, almost instinctive but perfectly timed shot and a brutal show-closer. Him vs Chocalatito is droolworthy fantasy match stuff.
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Giovani Segura vs Ivan Calderon 1+2

Both fights ended in similar fashion with Calderon on the ropes while Segura pounded away at the body,1st fight was a modern classic,toe to toe,2 southpaws,Calderon the slickster opting to stand and slug with the big punching Segura,2nd fight hadnt got going until the ending the 3rd round,not much resistence from Ivan

If anyone hasnt seen the 1st fight,i suggest you watch it ASAP
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Jeff Harding vs Dennis Andries 1,2+3

All classics with plenty swaying action,i thought 1st fight was best,action just swung back and forth at a ferocious pace and we got a last round KO from Harding after being put down earlier,2nd fight was dominated by Andries from the bell and he got revenge in 7,thre last fight was a great fight too and finished at a high tempo,close fight couldve easily went to Andries or a draw even

This trilogy stands beside the best
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Khaokor Galaxy - Wilfredo Vazquez. get on it, lads.

one of those fights between two guys who both fundamentally like to dominate, but after some pretty tough exchanges in the early rounds, they both realise they absolutely have to respect the other man's power, physical strength, and ring skills.

what then transpires is a good fight at a relatively measured pace, a proper technical going-over of each other, the pace isn't frenetic as both men know any mistakes will be instantly exploited. so they just kind of chisel hard away at each other, its 'you hit me, I'll hit you' without being a 'Pier 6 brawl' because its always, always under control technically spoeaking (Khaokor was a very measured fighter in that sense anyway), like two master stonemasons hammering away at very large rocks. really good stuff :TU:

Khaokor's bodypunching with the left is particularly impressive
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Arturo Gatti vs Wilson Rodriguez


An absolute humdinger of a fight with both men down and plenty of toe to toe exchanges,classic Thunder :bag:
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Thanks for thre recomendations Counter Puncher,keep em coming :TU:
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handsofstone wrote:Thanks for thre recomendations Counter Puncher,keep em coming :TU:
You're welcome stoney I enjoy the sharing of fights on this thread and also the inputs of scar tissue and Seamus on the scoring thread often throws up some good ones
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Just the other night sat up late and watched Benn V Eubank 1....... I cannot work out how it took me over 20 year's to watch this fight because it was a classic their style's were like chalk and cheese so to was their personality's I had Benn in front by 3 point's when the fight ended in the 9th round what a great fight. :bow: the commentator I think was Barry Mc Guigan said during the fight these are the type of fight's that make a person old in other words its a classic and he wasn't far off the mark.
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Bob Foster vs Chris Finnegan
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Vicente Saldivar vs Howard Winstone 1,2+3

All good fights,i thought Saldivar won 1st fight clearly,it was still competitve but he piled up the points before having Winstone hanging on for dear life by the end,Howard fought a much better fight in the rematch and really showed what a class boxer he was and i dont know the scores but if it wasnt for suffering the KD in the 14th he might have just won it,3rd fight was competitive too until Saldivar got the stoppage

I was impressed with Saldivar,southpaw but strong as an ox and clever with it too,keeps his power all the way through a fight,
Winstone is a tough,tough man who did everything he could to stay on his feet in all 3 fights
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Agree stoney. Along with hagler, I'd also say Saldivar had the best southpaw jab I have seen, especially impressive as he wasn't the tallest. His control of distance and angles using the jab was phenomenal.
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Counter-puncher wrote:Agree stoney. Along with hagler, I'd also say Saldivar had the best southpaw jab I have seen, especially impressive as he wasn't the tallest. His control of distance and angles using the jab was phenomenal.
:TU: Hagler's 1 boxer who i always forget is a southpaw,its his style that surely throws me
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handsofstone wrote:Vicente Saldivar vs Howard Winstone 1,2+3

All good fights,i thought Saldivar won 1st fight clearly,it was still competitve but he piled up the points before having Winstone hanging on for dear life by the end,Howard fought a much better fight in the rematch and really showed what a class boxer he was and i dont know the scores but if it wasnt for suffering the KD in the 14th he might have just won it,3rd fight was competitive too until Saldivar got the stoppage

I was impressed with Saldivar,southpaw but strong as an ox and clever with it too,keeps his power all the way through a fight,
Winstone is a tough,tough man who did everything he could to stay on his feet in all 3 fights
This is one of my favorite trilogies. I love the great Vicente Saldivar. Also, I love the Brit Howard Winstone style. He was awesome. It seems to me that he ran out of gas in all the three fights. But, boy, two fantastic fighters. The best man won. No shame on Winstone. He lost to one of the great ones
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Jeff Harding vs Dennis Andries 1,2+3

All classics with plenty swaying action,i thought 1st fight was best,action just swung back and forth at a ferocious pace and we got a last round KO from Harding after being put down earlier,2nd fight was dominated by Andries from the bell and he got revenge in 7,thre last fight was a great fight too and finished at a high tempo,close fight couldve easily went to Andries or a draw even

This trilogy stands beside the best
Great choice - two very hard men, well-matched, willing to go right at each other and their fights swung back and forth dramatically.

Each fight has its own compelling story as well...

Harding the Aussie 'Beach Bum' who'd mainly fought on club shows somehow rocks up in the States and finds a way to beat the established Andries. Classic Aussie grit.

Fight two sees 'old man' Andries have to go down to Australia and somehow beat Harding the local hero....and he does it in some style.

The last 'decider fight' has always been fascinating, because Harding admitted that his team decided to turn boxer and did not fancy another war. An admission that there were only so many times you could walk into the Andries brickwall...and that's from a tough nut like Harding.

Neither man an ATG but a triology that stands the test of time.
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