Canelo drops the belt

[runner_phob]

just went onto twitter and saw saunders calling canello a poo bag. that isn't
going to help negotiations if canelo decides to make a lateral move for the wbo
and stay at 160. we all know saunders would prefer canelo to fighting ggg.
just as much (if not more) money with a better chance at being competitive.
i still think canelo is going back down to 154 for andrade or cotto or charlos.

Come on, BJS is a proud Gypsy. Why would he prefer a sh!tbag who isn't even a real Mexican.

[sucracristo]

just went onto twitter and saw saunders calling canello a poo bag. that isn't
going to help negotiations if canelo decides to make a lateral move for the wbo
and stay at 160. we all know saunders would prefer canelo to fighting ggg.
just as much (if not more) money with a better chance at being competitive.
i still think canelo is going back down to 154 for andrade or cotto or charlos.

Come on, BJS is a proud Gypsy. Why would he prefer a sh!tbag who isn't even a real Mexican.

i already said why. name saunders' 3 biggest money fight options right now.
keep in mind he had one big round against lee and that won him the fight
and without that title he would be talking about purses in the thousands.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

Its the same as Bowe ducking Lewis......Canelo knows he cannot beat GGG he's been called P4P the best in boxing that'll get blown to mars and back if he gets smashed by GGG he can go down in weight and take easier fight's and still claim to be the P4P King he will fool some nieve people but the true boxing fan will never be so stupid what a sham this is ya get million's and million's of dollar's to defend but no throw it away you are not fooling anybody that knows boxing.

[sucracristo]

Its the same as Bowe ducking Lewis

lewis refused the offer from bowe and was dictated as mandatory immediately after
bowe won the title, so no, this is nothing like that at all, and bowe would have knocked
lewis out worse than rahman and mccall did. bowe had lewis hurt in the olympics and the
ref kept jumping in and warning bowe and stopped the fight when bowe wasn't even hurt.
what are really ignorant comparison.

[Impractical Poster]

This feels all too familiar....

[Impractical Poster]

“After much consideration, today, I instructed my team at Golden Boy Promotions to continue negotiating a fight with Gennady ‘GGG’ Golovkin and to finalize a deal as quickly as possible. I also informed the WBC that I will vacate its title. For the entirety of my career, I have taken the fights that no one wanted because I fear no man. Never has that been more true than today. I will fight ‘GGG,’ and I will beat ‘GGG’ but I will not be forced into the ring by artificial deadlines. I am hopeful that by putting aside this ticking clock, the two teams can now negotiate this fight, and ‘GGG’ and I can get in the ring as soon as possible and give the fans the fight they want to see.”

[NateJR]

“After much consideration, today, I instructed my team at Golden Boy Promotions to continue negotiating a fight with Gennady ‘GGG’ Golovkin and to finalize a deal as quickly as possible. I also informed the WBC that I will vacate its title. For the entirety of my career, I have taken the fights that no one wanted because I fear no man. Never has that been more true than today. I will fight ‘GGG,’ and I will beat ‘GGG’ but I will not be forced into the ring by artificial deadlines. I am hopeful that by putting aside this ticking clock, the two teams can now negotiate this fight, and ‘GGG’ and I can get in the ring as soon as possible and give the fans the fight they want to see.”

These GGG bandwagon idiots already have their minds made up. Canelo is scared shirtless of GGG.. lmao.. OK. You don't just make a fight of this magnitude, there's alot that goes into it. The last thing a fight like this needs is a timeline when it comes to negotiations. I honestly think Canelo is genuine when it comes to wanting the fight. But with how most posters are on here, they get some crazy shit in their head and ride with it. Canelo is no walk in the park for GGG, no way in hell.. GGG is a class operator and isn't laying down easy for anyone so stop with that dumb ass talk and get to reality. We've seen this whole deadline bullshit ruin fights in the past and this was no exception .. whether the fight is for a title or not it's still one of if not the biggest fights to be made in boxing. So funny how everyone talks about how much of a joke the ABC belts are and then make a big deal when someone vacates one of those worthless belts. If GGG won't fight Canelo simply because hes not carrying a belt, thats a duck on GGG not Canelo.

[NateJR]

“After much consideration, today, I instructed my team at Golden Boy Promotions to continue negotiating a fight with Gennady ‘GGG’ Golovkin and to finalize a deal as quickly as possible. I also informed the WBC that I will vacate its title. For the entirety of my career, I have taken the fights that no one wanted because I fear no man. Never has that been more true than today. I will fight ‘GGG,’ and I will beat ‘GGG’ but I will not be forced into the ring by artificial deadlines. I am hopeful that by putting aside this ticking clock, the two teams can now negotiate this fight, and ‘GGG’ and I can get in the ring as soon as possible and give the fans the fight they want to see.”

These GGG bandwagon idiots already have their minds made up. Canelo is scared shirtless of GGG.. lmao.. OK. You don't just make a fight of this magnitude, there's alot that goes into it. The last thing a fight like this needs is a timeline when it comes to negotiations. I honestly think Canelo is genuine when it comes to wanting the fight. But with how most posters are on here, they get some crazy shit in their head and ride with it. Canelo is no walk in the park for GGG, no way in hell.. GGG is a class operator and isn't laying down easy for anyone so stop with that dumb ass talk and get to reality. We've seen this whole deadline bullshit ruin fights in the past and this was no exception .. whether the fight is for a title or not it's still one of if not the biggest fights to be made in boxing. So funny how everyone talks about how much of a joke the ABC belts are and then make a big deal when someone vacates one of those worthless belts. If GGG won't fight Canelo simply because hes not carrying a belt, thats a duck on GGG not Canelo.

[NateJR]

Last I knew Canelo and DLH know what it it takes to make the biggest fights.. not GGG..

[crusader]

If it's just about the deadline why not keep the belt until the end of the negotiation period, then drop it if the terms of the fight aren't agreed to?

So funny how everyone talks about how much of a joke the ABC belts are and then make a big deal when someone vacates one of those worthless belts.

Not funny at all if you're smart enough to understand it. Someone may consider the ABC belts a joke, but obviously Canelo's team thought the WBC belt was valuable if they paid the WBC sanctioning fees for his fights with much lesser opponents in Cotto and Khan. It doesn't really seem like a random occurrence that all of a sudden when he's ordered to fight GGG the belt wasn't worth keeping, and I think it's fair to raise the possibility that the belt was dropped due to a lack of confidence on Canelo's side.

[coneye]

When you get a 160 lb champion ditch his belt rather than defend it , THATS A DODGE ... If the excuse for ditching it , is so he can make a fight without pressure and secure the better payday , thats good buisness sence.

BUT and notice theres a BUT ,, If said champ ditches the belt to secure a date and better money and then demands the NON TITLE fight be fought at 155 when he knows after rehdration he comes in heavier ,,,,THATS A COWARDLY DODGE .

Chicenheart Canelo will now demand 90 % of the purse and a 154 lb weigh in ,, and when he does'nt get it he'll declare he tried to make the fight and that my freinds will be a DODGE ..

So by ducking GGG to fight Khan ,,, now ditching his belt ,, and the next excuse shortly to come , that will make

CHICKENHEART Canelo 3-0 in the dodge department , and now the official number 1 CHICKEN HEART of the WORLD ....Deary deary me ,, whats happening to mexican boxing first Chavez jnr now Chickenheart Canelo

[Cent0089]

Canelo can save his reputation if he going to fight against some real threat in september:
Charlo brothers
Demetrius Andrade
Daniel Jacobs
and then against GGG in may.
Otherwise i sh!t on this guy. And he was my longtime favorite boxer ....

[Impractical Poster]

It's completely obvious this is a duck. The G haters can spin this all they want. But it's pretty clear what's going on. Especially when judging by history. If Canelo was confident, negotiations would go quick. G's team understands Canelo is the A side. He should get the lions share. But it should be understood that the fight should take place at 160 and the pay should be fair. This is the most anticipated fight between 2 active fighters. Without G, Canelo is not making as much money. If a reasonable split is made, what's the hold up?

All this confusion is taking place on Canelo's side, not G's.

[runner_phob]

Last I knew Canelo and DLH know what it it takes to make the biggest fights.. not GGG..

GGG has a different notion of a "big" fight. Of course, he understands what "big money" fight or "big name" fight is, but he is a sportsman, not a businessman, and his priorities are formal achievements, i.e. titles. If Canelo doesn't have a title, the fight is not so big for Golovkin anymore.

[runner_phob]

If GGG won't fight Canelo simply because hes not carrying a belt, thats a duck on GGG not Canelo.

GGG will gladly fight Canelo, maybe after a mandatory defense against Jacobs and grabbing the last belt from Saunders. However, if Canelo and DLH think that without the belt and the deadline, they have more leverage, then they are so misunderstanding Golovkin. Without the belt, they have less leverage, and they will have even less when Golovkin is undisputed.

[sucracristo]

whether the fight is for a title or not it's still one of if not the biggest fights to be made in boxing.

lolz. still hasn't hit him yet what just happened. give the poor boy another day or two...
this is the denial, then anger, bargaining, acceptance, then maybe depression will finally set in by monday

If GGG won't fight Canelo simply because hes not carrying a belt, thats a duck on GGG not Canelo.

...at 155, for 5% of the purse, with his feet tied together, blindfolded, bla bla bla. wake up, dude.
you KNOW canelo was begging GGG to step aside again so saul could fight another borderline
top 10 welter. the belt is the only reason there was going to be a canelo fight in the first place,
and the only reason why canelo had the belt is because GGG allowed him to fight for it twice.
it was time to shut up and fight. after all this ridiculousness canelo hands over the belt, the
thing they were fighting for, leaving money the only incentive for ggg, and expecting ggg to take
a SMALLER cut than the purse bid was going to require. canelo wants OUT of this fight!!

[Kalan]

[quote="Horse] Those others fights are nothing compared to fighting Alvarez.[/quote]

GGG would love to fight Alvarez.. It's the richest fight out there.. but Alvarez doesn't want to fight Golovkin. You can't force a horse to drink. Chickenson refused to fight Kovalev for several years but last word is he's negotiating with Ward... That would be the 2nd opponent where Ward stepped in front of Kovalev and it doesn't amaze me... Theoretically Canelo could fight Saunders and Jacobs and leave GGG with nobody to fight at 160 again.. It’s been going on for years already just like Leo Santa Cruz and Lee Selby have no intention of fighting Gary Russell, because they know they’d get knocked out.. And Lomachenko is moving on to 130 because he hasn’t been able to get a decent opponent since he dominated Russell in his 3rd pro fight ... The way Boxing is set up now, the best connected fighters can easily box around the most dangerous opponents.

[littlepug]

so now team alvarez don't want to follow basic rules set out by the WBC that all the champs have to follow, if I was GGG I would freeze alvarez out of the picture regardless of how much money he brings to the table.

[gilgamesh]

so now team alvarez don't want to follow basic rules set out by the WBC that all the champs have to follow, if I was GGG I would freeze alvarez out of the picture regardless of how much money he brings to the table.

Money talks

[Kalan]

People are tired of those cherry picking divas like Mayweather, Pacquiao, Cotto and Canelo.

NOT tired enough for ME... I didn't buy their fights with Berto, Bradley, Geale, and Khan...SOMEBODY did... As long as fans buy cherry picked crap, that's what they're going to feed us... Canelo still drew 600,000 PPVs for a fight that he could have finished in the 1st round if he wanted to. I think he wanted to spar for a few rounds so the fight wouldn't look so far removed from the "Speed vs Power" hyped scenario they kept repeating with their ridiculously over-the-top buildup.

[gilgamesh]

People are tired of those cherry picking divas like Mayweather, Pacquiao, Cotto and Canelo.

NOT tired enough for ME... I didn't buy their fights with Berto, Bradley, Geale, and Khan...SOMEBODY did... As long as fans buy cherry picked crap, that's what they're going to feed us... Canelo still drew 600,000 PPVs for a fight that he could have finished in the 1st round if he wanted to. I think he wanted to spar for a few rounds so the fight wouldn't look so far removed from the "Speed vs Power" hyped scenario they kept repeating with their ridiculously over-the-top buildup.

I honestly don't know why anybody buys any PPV's anymore. Once they hit 60 dollars they priced themselves out of my home. No matter who's fighting who.

[dberry]

“After much consideration, today, I instructed my team at Golden Boy Promotions to continue negotiating a fight with Gennady ‘GGG’ Golovkin and to finalize a deal as quickly as possible. I also informed the WBC that I will vacate its title. For the entirety of my career, I have taken the fights that no one wanted because I fear no man. Never has that been more true than today. I will fight ‘GGG,’ and I will beat ‘GGG’ but I will not be forced into the ring by artificial deadlines. I am hopeful that by putting aside this ticking clock, the two teams can now negotiate this fight, and ‘GGG’ and I can get in the ring as soon as possible and give the fans the fight they want to see.”

These GGG bandwagon idiots already have their minds made up. Canelo is scared shirtless of GGG.. lmao.. OK. You don't just make a fight of this magnitude, there's alot that goes into it. The last thing a fight like this needs is a timeline when it comes to negotiations. I honestly think Canelo is genuine when it comes to wanting the fight. But with how most posters are on here, they get some crazy poo in their head and ride with it. Canelo is no walk in the park for GGG, no way in hell.. GGG is a class operator and isn't laying down easy for anyone so stop with that dumb ass talk and get to reality. We've seen this whole deadline bullshit ruin fights in the past and this was no exception .. whether the fight is for a title or not it's still one of if not the biggest fights to be made in boxing. So funny how everyone talks about how much of a joke the ABC belts are and then make a big deal when someone vacates one of those worthless belts. If GGG won't fight Canelo simply because hes not carrying a belt, thats a duck on GGG not Canelo.

I've been a fan of Canelo's for quite some time (I'm a fan of GGG's, too. Unbelievably, the two aren't mutually exclusive.), I'd favour GGG if they fought, I really can't see how Canelo could beat him, I think that Bolden Boy, and to an extent Canelo, do not want this fight, however, time will tell if you're right and they are being honest about still trying to negotiate the fight, they should be given the benifit of the doubt instead of all the name calling that's happening.

[MachoTime]

Not surprised at all by this...I suspected Canelo wouldn't be fighting GGG anytime soon.

[Bard of Boxrec]

How embarrassing for Canelo.

Question: Now that GGG has the WBC belt, why wouldn't the deadline for the fight just be switched to him? Or will the WBC just come up with a new deadline?

[Batley18]

Absolute disgrace, coming out with the comments he did after the Khan fight and then being a little bitch when it came to backing it up. Why can't we have the big fights we want any more.