If you fought only the best opponents -- who won every fight very clearly and who are still undefeated in at least 22 fights -- then you'd already be the World Champion.. You limit your opponent selection to almost zero is that has to be the criteria.. Plus I didn't rank Martin anywhere near the top because of the effortless way Joshua dispatched him.BitPlayer wrote:Only because of more than one gift decision, and fighting not the best opponents. Martin was fighting for the NABO title before the Glazkov fight.Kalan wrote:Glazkov was undefeated in 22 fights... You look historically and he would have iced many Heavyweight Challengers of the past.. He beat Tomasz Adamek with ease... You're calling him a bum, yet he beat Steve Cunningham and drew with Malik Scott... He's not a bad heavyweight and was never close to being stopped before he met Charles Martin -- whose only defeat came at the hands of Anthony Joshua.Counter-puncher wrote:
so, Glazkov didn't deserve a title shot, he was easily beaten, so really anyone praising Charles Martin is doing so on the basis of him 'beating' a bum by way of retirement through injury. which means nobody can say anything positive about Charles Martin without looking like a bit of a fool, am I getting you right here?
Heavyweight Rankings
Re: Heavyweight Rankings
Re: Heavyweight Rankings
Kalan wrote:Right behind Anthony Joshua - Vitali Klitschko was probably the best Heavyweight who ever lived... He was beating Lennonx Lewis on all scorecards when that fight was stopped on cuts... Vitali should have won that fight on a 6-round Technical Decision because foul blows by Lewis definitely contributed to the cuts..
Vital was also beating Chris Byrd easily when his rotator cuff assembly was completely severed in a freak injury... Vitali was a mile ahead on points... In fact Vitali was never behind on points and never floored in his career...and Joshua is not likely to have either happen to him... Not a bad showing for VK because he was winning on all judges' scorecards when his only 2 lost fights were stopped -- so nobody has ever out-boxed or outpunched Vitali.
After AJ and the K Bros, Lewis and Holmes are probably the top ATG Heavyweights... Lewis has official wins over everybody he ever fought, and left with his brains intact -- and Holmes won his first 48 fights including 20 straight successful Title Defenses.. Nobody ever matched that.
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Re: Heavyweight Rankings
That is your opinion.Kalan wrote:Right behind Anthony Joshua - Vitali Klitschko was probably the best Heavyweight who ever lived... He was beating Lennonx Lewis on all scorecards when that fight was stopped on cuts... Vitali should have won that fight on a 6-round Technical Decision because foul blows by Lewis definitely contributed to the cuts..
Vital was also beating Chris Byrd easily when his rotator cuff assembly was completely severed in a freak injury... Vitali was a mile ahead on points... In fact Vitali was never behind on points and never floored in his career...and Joshua is not likely to have either happen to him... Not a bad showing for VK because he was winning on all judges' scorecards when his only 2 lost fights were stopped -- so nobody has ever out-boxed or outpunched Vitali.
After AJ and the K Bros, Lewis and Holmes are probably the top ATG Heavyweights... Lewis has official wins over everybody he ever fought, and left with his brains intact -- and Holmes won his first 48 fights including 20 straight successful Title Defenses.. Nobody ever matched that.