Floyd vs. Manny II (75% possible now says Arum)

[caldo2025]

According to Bob Arum, Floyd's ringside seat this past weekend at Pac/Vargas was an accommodation from Arum & Manny. Floyd called asking them for tickets and they obliged. Arum goes on to state that Arum and Floyd are on great terms and there's a 75% chance of the rematch though negotiations have not opened in this regard.

I know that most of you are down on this rematch and SAY that you don't want to see it but WHY? What the heck would it hurt to see these two in the ring again pushing another big fight for the fans? This would be more dramatic IMO because we've got Floyd's 50th on the line and we've got 2 super intelligent boxers with 12 rounds of experience with each other to work from. I'd love to see what they come with this time for a game plan. Even if we get a mirror image of the first fight, at least we have a big fight to look forward to again from these two.

What could it possibly hurt? Why are fans so against this fight happening? I don't understand.

[Cutman Scabbers]

Sure, I'd watch it. But I ain't payin' for it.

[gilgamesh]

It'll still be big. I don't think it'll be half as big as it was the first time, but yeah what the hell. Might as well do it again.

[Badhusker]

I would much rather see both guys fight someone else new. More of the same will be boring as shit. What's the point? Yes, it will sell well because there are loads of stupid fans that will pay for it. How about Manny vs Crawford and Floyd vs the winner of Garcia/Thurman......on the same card? If TR, Floyd, and Haymon work together for May/Pac, they can do this too, and make just as much while being much more entertaining.

[boxing_rocks]

Please no.

[Keko]

The last time it was already too late for that match and now even less sense has.

[Syntax Error]

You cannot be serious!

I suppose I'd still watch because it's two modern legends & I love the sport, but I'm really not enamoured at the prospect of watching, one wouldn't versus one can't again!

[lefty]

I don't want to watch that garbage for a second time.

[Enlightened-One]

Floyd vs. Manny II (75% possible now says Arum)

Even though the established hard-core boxing fraternity is likely to possess a fairly negative outlook about their desire to witness the heavily-speculated Mayweather-Pacquiao rematch, it will almost certainly be the second highest revenue grossing fight in the history of the sport.

I’ll watch the bout again; even though outcome of this contest is probably going to be a carbon copy of their first fight in 2015.

To be honest, I’ll watch the bout mostly out of curiosity and partially because it’ll probably be the final time we ever get to see two of this generation's finest boxers compete inside the ring.

[caldo2025]

Floyd vs. Manny II (75% possible now says Arum)

Even though the established hard-core boxing fraternity is likely to possess a fairly negative outlook about their desire to witness the heavily-speculated Mayweather-Pacquiao rematch, it will almost certainly be the second highest revenue grossing fight in the history of the sport.

I’ll watch the bout again; even though outcome of this contest is probably going to be a carbon copy of their first fight in 2015.

To be honest, I’ll watch the bout mostly out of curiosity and partially because it’ll probably be the final time we ever get to see two of this generation's finest boxers compete inside the ring.

I'm marking this date in my diary because it's the first time i completely agree with anything you've written. lol

[T w_savage]

I would not mind this fight but for the fact it's going to be less competitive than the first time... But for a few cameos pacquiao was ineffective in the first fight..

The problem here is it will be a massive fight but won't show boxing at its best, likely after mayweather pacquiao 2 boxing will lose fans not gain!

[razzledaz]

Still haven't watched the first 1 because of how blatantly obvious it was going to be a stinker, a rematch has to be even worse.

[SenorPipino]

It won't happen.

Floyd's retired and he'll stay that way.

Arum's just blowing smoke trying to keep a fading Pacquiao's name in the spotlight.

Did he actually talk with Mayweather about a fight? I certainly doubt that he's negotiated with Floyd for even a second about a rematch.

So how does he throw out that "75% chance" nonsense.

He says it because he's a boxing promoter and they can say anything. It doesn't have to be even remotely true or possible.

Don't get suckered in like people were for the better part of 5 years. A rematch ain't gonna happen.

I would rather see Pac vs. Crawford in April anyway.

[lefty]

It won't happen.

Floyd's retired and he'll stay that way.

Arum's just blowing smoke trying to keep a fading Pacquiao's name in the spotlight.

Did he actually talk with Mayweather about a fight? I certainly doubt that he's negotiated with Floyd for even a second about a rematch.

So how does he throw out that "75% chance" nonsense.

He says it because he's a boxing promoter and they can say anything. It doesn't have to be even remotely true or possible.

Don't get suckered in like people were for the better part of 5 years. A rematch ain't gonna happen.

I would rather see Pac vs. Crawford in April anyway.

I'm pretty sure I read that Floyd said he only went because his daughter wanted to go and watch some boxing or something along those lines. He said he got them for her.

[Lackeos]

The first time it was not entertaining, and the second time there would be less suspense than before. It's interesting to imagine Pacquiao getting as many do-overs as necessary until he can improve and adapt enough to possibly get a win. It might force both fighters to get a little better. But I think the interest in this match-up has dried-up quite a lot since the first fight went down.

[Stuarty]

Not interested! Please go away and play with your money or play politics etc.... Meh!

[Kalan]

According to Bob Arum, Floyd's ringside seat this past weekend at Pac/Vargas was an accommodation from Arum & Manny. Floyd called asking them for tickets and they obliged. Arum goes on to state that Arum and Floyd are on great terms and there's a 75% chance of the rematch though negotiations have not opened in this regard.

I know that most of you are down on this rematch and SAY that you don't want to see it but WHY? What the heck would it hurt to see these two in the ring again pushing another big fight for the fans? This would be more dramatic IMO because we've got Floyd's 50th on the line and we've got 2 super intelligent boxers with 12 rounds of experience with each other to work from. I'd love to see what they come with this time for a game plan. Even if we get a mirror image of the first fight, at least we have a big fight to look forward to again from these two.

What could it possibly hurt? Why are fans so against this fight happening? I don't understand.

The fight won't happen.. If Floyd were anxious to fight Manny he wouldn't have waited 7 years---until he heard rumors of Pacquiao's shoulder problems.. The right shoulder have been giving Pacquiao problems for years and kept getting worse.. Pacquiao had an excellent opportunity to get it repaired after the Marquez KO loss, he was forced to take a long layoff -- but he was fearful of surgery. He was acquainted with boxers who had rotator cuff surgery and knew that retear rates for boxers are alarming..

Sparring for Floyd, Pac suffered a full thickness tear in one of the 4 muscle groups connecting the rotator cuff to the humerus.. He stopped sparring and signed all his sparring partners to legally binding non-disclosure agreements.. The doctors examining Pac told him he'd be out of action for at least 9 months and needed immediate rotator cuff surgery.. But 9 months took Pac well beyond Floyd's stated retirement date -- so Pac had a decision to make. As much as 200 million dollars was on the line for his paycheck..

Pac didn't spar again and shut the public and press out of his training.. Roach and Pac claimed to be working on a "secret strategy" and started grinning like a couple apes and talking about how easy the fight would be.. I smelled a rat because that's not how you train or talk about the biggest fight of your life. Pac fought injured and that's why the fight stunk. Many Pac partisans thought Pac won, including the Las Vegas crowd, Foreman, Mosley, and Holyfield.. I had Floyd winning 116-112, but he did poorly versus an injured boxer. Floyd picked a lame opponent for his finale and wasn't interested in a 50th.. As time when by Floyd tried to box Conor McGregor, but Dan White blocked it.. Floyd won't fight Thurman, Brook, Spence, or Crawford ... so he's done.

[keithmoonhangover]

Steve Bunce has said for a longtime that the rematch will happen. I think it will.

[crusader]

It's still probably lucrative enough to make sense for them, but it's not something I want to see.

[Kalan]

I would buy it if Pac looked good in training. I didn't buy the last one.. I didn't like the way Pac was training, acting, and talking.. I thought he'd get stopped.

[Kalan]

I would buy it if Pac looked good in training. I didn't buy the last one.. I didn't like the way Pac was training, acting, and talking.. I thought he'd get stopped.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

I will buy it watch it be in the crowd if I had my plane/entry drinking money even if it was a one-way ticket on the plane I love watching something that I don't really really know what is going to happen i'm not Nostradamus like some but if I tried my hand at the predicting game i'll say Pacman in a unforgettable upset victory

[man]

It'll still be big. I don't think it'll be half as big as it was the first time, but yeah what the hell. Might as well do it again.

definitely more interesting than 99%
of heavyweight mismatches. plus floyd
aged and has long layoff. good fight.

[caldo2025]

According to Bob Arum, Floyd's ringside seat this past weekend at Pac/Vargas was an accommodation from Arum & Manny. Floyd called asking them for tickets and they obliged. Arum goes on to state that Arum and Floyd are on great terms and there's a 75% chance of the rematch though negotiations have not opened in this regard.

I know that most of you are down on this rematch and SAY that you don't want to see it but WHY? What the heck would it hurt to see these two in the ring again pushing another big fight for the fans? This would be more dramatic IMO because we've got Floyd's 50th on the line and we've got 2 super intelligent boxers with 12 rounds of experience with each other to work from. I'd love to see what they come with this time for a game plan. Even if we get a mirror image of the first fight, at least we have a big fight to look forward to again from these two.

What could it possibly hurt? Why are fans so against this fight happening? I don't understand.

The fight won't happen.. If Floyd were anxious to fight Manny he wouldn't have waited 7 years---until he heard rumors of Pacquiao's shoulder problems.. The right shoulder have been giving Pacquiao problems for years and kept getting worse.. Pacquiao had an excellent opportunity to get it repaired after the Marquez KO loss, he was forced to take a long layoff -- but he was fearful of surgery. He was acquainted with boxers who had rotator cuff surgery and knew that retear rates for boxers are alarming..

Sparring for Floyd, Pac suffered a full thickness tear in one of the 4 muscle groups connecting the rotator cuff to the humerus.. He stopped sparring and signed all his sparring partners to legally binding non-disclosure agreements.. The doctors examining Pac told him he'd be out of action for at least 9 months and needed immediate rotator cuff surgery.. But 9 months took Pac well beyond Floyd's stated retirement date -- so Pac had a decision to make. As much as 200 million dollars was on the line for his paycheck..

Pac didn't spar again and shut the public and press out of his training.. Roach and Pac claimed to be working on a "secret strategy" and started grinning like a couple apes and talking about how easy the fight would be.. I smelled a rat because that's not how you train or talk about the biggest fight of your life. Pac fought injured and that's why the fight stunk. Many Pac partisans thought Pac won, including the Las Vegas crowd, Foreman, Mosley, and Holyfield.. I had Floyd winning 116-112, but he did poorly versus an injured boxer. Floyd picked a lame opponent for his finale and wasn't interested in a 50th.. As time when by Floyd tried to box Conor McGregor, but Dan White blocked it.. Floyd won't fight Thurman, Brook, Spence, or Crawford ... so he's done.

Kalan, i'm a Manny fan so i absolutely LOVE this conspiracy theory and you sell it very well. Heck, you could be 100% correct and the shoulder could be the difference between Manny winning and losing that fight. I had Floyd winning by a round in the fight and feel that he should have been penalized for excessive holding and was not even warned once by Baylis. With the ref in his pocket and Morretti once again scoring the fight for him, the odds of the fight having any other outcome than the one we had is small.

In my opinion, Floyd gradually took over Vegas as the amount of zero's in his bank account started growing. Along with having the ability to pay off anyone significantly with pocket money, he also meant huge paydays for these casino's. In Floyd's last 9 fights, we saw a purely defensive style and sporadic offensive exchanges. To me, it was clear that Floyd knew that he just needed to make it to the end of the fight because the cards were rigged. That's why you saw his activity pick up around the 9th round. Remember Maidana/Floyd I? Floyd sat on those ropes covering up for the first 6 rounds of that fight. Not even trying to win a round. He just needed to make it to the end. I had that fight a draw btw.

Once i get going about Floyd, i forget what point i was trying to make initially, Oh yeah, I do think that Floyd will fight again and I do think that it will be Manny. I think the fight against Vargas was an eliminator of sorts to Floyd. Manny winning the belt in impressive fashion puts more credibility into a possible 50th victory for Floyd. Floyd will never take on Thurman, Spence Jr or maybe not even Garcia. Here he has Manny aging as well, with a belt and some rising stock. I think that it makes perfect sense especially when all Floyd needs to do is not get knocked out to win. I think it happens.

[caldo2025]

It won't happen.

Floyd's retired and he'll stay that way.

Arum's just blowing smoke trying to keep a fading Pacquiao's name in the spotlight.

Did he actually talk with Mayweather about a fight? I certainly doubt that he's negotiated with Floyd for even a second about a rematch.

So how does he throw out that "75% chance" nonsense.

He says it because he's a boxing promoter and they can say anything. It doesn't have to be even remotely true or possible.

Don't get suckered in like people were for the better part of 5 years. A rematch ain't gonna happen.

I would rather see Pac vs. Crawford in April anyway.

I'm pretty sure I read that Floyd said he only went because his daughter wanted to go and watch some boxing or something along those lines. He said he got them for her.

When Floyd speaks, he lies. He can say that he was sleep walking and woke up ringside but i'm not buying it. This was all scripted and planned out perfectly. Arum made a point to put Floyd right behind the announcers so he could be surely seen. Les Moonves and Roach me last month and he told Roach that he could deliver Floyd. This fight happens in May. Floyd loves his date in May and no better way to go out and get #50 and another 9 figure payday.