jan 12 predictions? malik scott v luis ortiz next weekend ?

[badkatt]

so what rd does this one end and who wins it ?

[jezzamundo]

Scott is the more mobile and the better athlete and has underrated boxing skills. If he can stay on the outside and his stamina doesn't let him down he's an outside chance to win a decision.

That said, my pick is Ortz to stop him early.

[ValMar]

I can not see how would Scott win. Ortiz is two levels above him.

[Badhusker]

Scott is the more mobile and the better athlete and has underrated boxing skills. If he can stay on the outside and his stamina doesn't let him down he's an outside chance to win a decision.

That said, my pick is Ortz to stop him early.

I agree those are two likely scenarios. If Scott does take the fight late, it will also be interesting to see how Ortiz's stamina holds up. I personally think it will be a better fight than most, and will at least go 8-10 rounds before Ortiz catches him.

[Ilya Muromets]

Scott took a very obvious dive against Wilder. I expect he is the designated loser in this one too.

[asdfjkl]

I expect Scott to take a dive again, but if he doesn't he might make it till the 3rth round. He got a nice reach, but no chin and he's probably way to slow for Ortiz, despite what some people suggest.

[Lackeos]

I can't think of one reason why Scott would be willing to take a punch from Ortiz. I think Ortiz lands 0-1 punches and then Scott hits the deck and gives up.

[bigman1968]

Scott received this fight(and paycheck) from Hearns, so he will not win Hearns fighter...

But his dive against Wilder was bad played...and another 1round dive will finish his carreer. So they'll mess around for 6-8 rounds...just like Ortiz-Thompson, btw.

[lazboy]

Scott weighed in at 246 pounds. Not the heaviest he's been but heavy for him. Think he'll be moving slow with that weight. That means a sitting duck. His body looks soft also. He's just taking a cheque.

ko by Kong rounds 5 to 7

[lazboy]

F%$cking disgrace of a fight!This is where Eddie Hearns cherry picking match making goes wrong, he's completely derailed Ortizs momentum. I don't want to hear about styles make fights. Ortiz didn't adapt and given the little threat he encountered, he can't. Also, what I've noticed with these PED users, its not the power that goes but the volume. Ortiz looked like an old man in there, AJ would smash him. I'm not even going to comment on Scott. Pure survival mode. Ortiz won't be able to beat the top heavyweights, AJ, Wilder, Fury, I don't even think he'd beat Klitchko.

[funso banjo baby]

we all knew the kind of professional malik scott is.

but hopefully now the Ortiz bandwagon will slow a bit.

he's not the next mega-champ

[lazboy]

we all knew the kind of professional malik scott is.

but hopefully now the Ortiz bandwagon will slow a bit.

he's not the next mega-champ

Nah hes not....he's to old and slow.Especially without PEDs.

[Evander]

Not seen it yet but reports suggest the flight was dull and one sided.

[Lackeos]

Is it entertaining seeing Malik Scott run and run and parry and run and clinch and run? No, but I'd much prefer that he try to survive than take a nap in round 1. He basically had no better outcome he could aspire to than going the distance and hoping the judges were unsure of who to pick. This is also a good lesson for Ortiz -- he's going to have a lot to think about in regards to what sort of adaptations he needs to make against these kinds of tactics. He's going to have to improve at pursuing, cutting off the ring, punching while moving, cutting off the opponent's escape routes when he's on the ropes, and perhaps improve his body composition. This is also the first time that Ortiz has gone deeper than round 8, and he certainly could've used some experience in the deep end. Most potential opponents wouldn't give Ortiz anything to reflect upon; even in a more competitive, action-oriented fight. Ortiz would eventually just KO said opponents and be like "I guess I'm great the way I am and don't need to change anything."

Of course, there is one valid thing to complain about in this fight. Beginning in round 4, Malik Scott began repeatedly flopping and going "He rabbit punched me. I can't get up," and then reluctantly getting up after 8-14 seconds. Although rabbit punching is illegal, Scott seemed to be fishing for a DQ win or copious amounts of free rest time.

I don't think this fight really exposed Ortiz in any sense. His accuracy, volume, and ability to outpoint an opponent haven't really varied much from what we've seen in the Jennings and Thompson fights. The only thing that really changed is that Ortiz wasn't able to land as many powerful set shots and score a KO, which is a natural consequence when your opponent is moving as much as Scott and has good reach.

[lazboy]

Is it entertaining seeing Malik Scott run and run and parry and run and clinch and run? No, but I'd much prefer that he try to survive than take a nap in round 1. He basically had no better outcome he could aspire to than going the distance and hoping the judges were unsure of who to pick. This is also a good lesson for Ortiz -- he's going to have a lot to think about in regards to what sort of adaptations he needs to make against these kinds of tactics. He's going to have to improve at pursuing, cutting off the ring, punching while moving, cutting off the opponent's escape routes when he's on the ropes, and perhaps improve his body composition. This is also the first time that Ortiz has gone deeper than round 8, and he certainly could've used some experience in the deep end. Most potential opponents wouldn't give Ortiz anything to reflect upon; even in a more competitive, action-oriented fight. Ortiz would eventually just KO said opponents and be like "I guess I'm great the way I am and don't need to change anything."

Of course, there is one valid thing to complain about in this fight. Beginning in round 4, Malik Scott began repeatedly flopping and going "He rabbit punched me. I can't get up," and then reluctantly getting up after 8-14 seconds. Although rabbit punching is illegal, Scott seemed to be fishing for a DQ win or copious amounts of free rest time.

I don't think this fight really exposed Ortiz in any sense. His accuracy, volume, and ability to outpoint an opponent haven't really varied much from what we've seen in the Jennings and Thompson fights. The only thing that really changed is that Ortiz wasn't able to land as many powerful set shots and score a KO, which is a natural thing to happen when your opponent is moving as much as Scott and has good reach.

Fair points. It was so disgraceful of Scott to say indicate he had been punched in the back of the head (he did this a couple of times), he almost go that "easy out" but the ref gave him a hand. Literally gave him a hand helping him up. I'm glad it didn't end up like that. I know you say this is good learning for Ortiz but he's 37. Is he really going to learn from this? Is he going to improve. He had next to nothing coming back at him. Yes Scott is rangey, yes scott was completely on the back foot and it is hard to hit a back peddling survival fighter, we have seen it in recent examples Ward- Brand and Kovalev - Chilemba. But Scott was heavy, his body looked soft, he's 36 and is shot mentally, he slowed down in round 6, Ortiz had him on the ropes numerous times but was reluctant to throw more than a 3 punch combo, I couldnt tell you how many times I counted Ortiz cornering him and then letting him go. Ortiz's jab was also ineffective, he was trying to combo of it, IMO he should have just dove in with body shots, hurtful punches, every time Ortiz used his jab Scott felt it and then moved away. His jab was actually setting Scott up to move away from him if you know what i mean. Obviously a fighter can have fights that aren't perfect, and his opponent was the most unwilling opponent I have seen since in a long time but really Ortiz looked old. He had glimpses of "greatness" like a older great heavyweight coming back, but he's not meant to be like that, he's meant to be rising not falling.

[Wales]

Not seen it yet but reports suggest the flight was dull and one sided.

Just dull tbh . Scott literally ran the whole fight, Ortiz could rarely get close enough to land anything. Disgraceful performance by Scott, completely disinterested in anything other than not getting hit. Took a couple of questionable visits to canvas too.

If I ruled the world he'd have his purse withheld and would also receive a ban and be publicly hit in the face with a wet fish.