Joe Louis vs Joe Mesi

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Kalan wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:God, you are a brainless fool
I wouldn't talk that way to God if I were you. Of course you might not believe in him either.
God would wet himself laughing at you and your mad Wilt love.
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God doesn't wet himself... Maybe you do... God knows Ali avoided a Wilt fight by refusing to sign the negotiated contract to fight him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF57P1uUG0s
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Kalan wrote:God doesn't wet himself... Maybe you do... God knows Ali avoided a Wilt fight by refusing to sign the negotiated contract to fight him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF57P1uUG0s
The video is a joke. As are you.
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BTW... I have as much love for Chamberlain as I do Donald Trump...who I consider a bigot, racist, sexist, sexual predator, and over-the-top blow hard.

But in Wilt's case you have to recognize his outstanding athletic ability---and he wasn't running for president of the USA.. Such athletic gifts are never seen in an athlete who's over 7'1" tall with unbelievably long arms and legs, even for his height.. Guys that size are usually very uncoordinated and can't make the NBA to save their ass... The few really big and tall guys over 7 feet tall who do make it to the NBA generally don't become superstars.. And nobody else ever dominated the NBA record book in so many categories.. If you were a Heavyweight boxer, I guarantee you, if you had one moderate sparring session with Wilt Chamberlain around the time of the 1st Ali fight contract was drawn up -- that encounter would be enough for you, and you probably would decline further entreaties to spar.
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Kalan wrote:BTW... I have as much love for Chamberlain as I do Donald Trump...who I consider a bigot, racist, sexist, sexual predator, and over-the-top blow hard.

But in Wilt's case you have to recognize his outstanding athletic ability---and he wasn't running for president of the USA.. Such athletic gifts are never seen in an athlete who's over 7'1" tall with unbelievably long arms and legs, even for his height.. Guys that size are usually very uncoordinated and can't make the NBA to save their ass... The few really big and tall guys over 7 feet tall who do make it to the NBA generally don't become superstars.. And nobody else ever dominated the NBA record book in so many categories.. If you were a Heavyweight boxer, I guarantee you, if you had one moderate sparring session with Wilt Chamberlain around the time of the 1st Ali fight contract was drawn up -- that encounter would be enough for you, and you probably would decline further entreaties to spar.
Michael Jordan was a fantastic athlete also, although I'm sure you'll say he wasn't as good as Wilt, so,,,, would Jordan be able to beat Iran Barkley?
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cfang wrote:Louis KO1-3
You mean Louis would knock him out three times in one fight?
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keithmoonhangover wrote:
Kalan wrote:God doesn't wet himself... Maybe you do... God knows Ali avoided a Wilt fight by refusing to sign the negotiated contract to fight him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF57P1uUG0s
The video is a joke. As are you.
I figured we were all done indulging this clown on this Wilt-Ali nonsense.
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joe louis vs joe mesi

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This real?
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BAD INTENTIONS wrote:This real?
I thought it was a joke :lol:
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Kalan wrote:God doesn't wet himself...
If he was really really drunk I believe it could happen. If it did happen, would we experience it as rain you think?
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keithmoonhangover wrote:
Kalan wrote:BTW... I have as much love for Chamberlain as I do Donald Trump...who I consider a bigot, racist, sexist, sexual predator, and over-the-top blow hard.

But in Wilt's case you have to recognize his outstanding athletic ability---and he wasn't running for president of the USA.. Such athletic gifts are never seen in an athlete who's over 7'1" tall with unbelievably long arms and legs, even for his height.. Guys that size are usually very uncoordinated and can't make the NBA to save their ass... The few really big and tall guys over 7 feet tall who do make it to the NBA generally don't become superstars.. And nobody else ever dominated the NBA record book in so many categories.. If you were a Heavyweight boxer, I guarantee you, if you had one moderate sparring session with Wilt Chamberlain around the time of the 1st Ali fight contract was drawn up -- that encounter would be enough for you, and you probably would decline further entreaties to spar.
Michael Jordan was a fantastic athlete also, although I'm sure you'll say he wasn't as good as Wilt, so,,,, would Jordan be able to beat Iran Barkley?
Can you answer this one please Mr Kalan sir please?
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keithmoonhangover wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Kalan wrote:BTW... I have as much love for Chamberlain as I do Donald Trump...who I consider a bigot, racist, sexist, sexual predator, and over-the-top blow hard.

But in Wilt's case you have to recognize his outstanding athletic ability---and he wasn't running for president of the USA.. Such athletic gifts are never seen in an athlete who's over 7'1" tall with unbelievably long arms and legs, even for his height.. Guys that size are usually very uncoordinated and can't make the NBA to save their ass... The few really big and tall guys over 7 feet tall who do make it to the NBA generally don't become superstars.. And nobody else ever dominated the NBA record book in so many categories.. If you were a Heavyweight boxer, I guarantee you, if you had one moderate sparring session with Wilt Chamberlain around the time of the 1st Ali fight contract was drawn up -- that encounter would be enough for you, and you probably would decline further entreaties to spar.
Michael Jordan was a fantastic athlete also, although I'm sure you'll say he wasn't as good as Wilt, so,,,, would Jordan be able to beat Iran Barkley?
Can you answer this one please Mr Kalan sir please?
Michael Jordan would be a fool to box Charles Barkley.. Lets say they both had a training budget of 10 million and 6 months to train.. They could hire some pretty damned good trainers and sparring partners for that and they could learn a lot if they trained 6 or 8 hours a day.. I read Jordan's best playing weight was 216.. I don't believe that for a second.. He could barely hit a baseball out of the infield as a baseball player off minor league pitching.. He looked damned skinny and weak.. I make him 206 max at his best basketball playing weight..

Barkley was about the same height but was 250 in his best shape.. He would have much better punching power and resistance to punishment.. Jordan was a very smart guy, but I wouldn't say he'd be a more clever boxer than Barkley.. He might win a few early rounds on better speed, movement, and smarts.. As Barkley tasted Jordan's power he'd get more and more aggressive... It would be doomsday for Jordan in the 7th to 10th.
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Kalan wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Michael Jordan was a fantastic athlete also, although I'm sure you'll say he wasn't as good as Wilt, so,,,, would Jordan be able to beat Iran Barkley?
Can you answer this one please Mr Kalan sir please?
Michael Jordan would be a fool to box Charles Barkley.. Lets say they both had a training budget of 10 million and 6 months to train.. They could hire some pretty damned good trainers and sparring partners for that and they could learn a lot if they trained 6 or 8 hours a day.. I read Jordan's best playing weight was 216.. I don't believe that for a second.. He could barely hit a baseball out of the infield as a baseball player off minor league pitching.. He looked damned skinny and weak.. I make him 206 max at his best basketball playing weight..

Barkley was about the same height but was 250 in his best shape.. He would have much better punching power and resistance to punishment.. Jordan was a very smart guy, but I wouldn't say he'd be a more clever boxer than Barkley.. He might win a few early rounds on better speed, movement, and smarts.. As Barkley tasted Jordan's power he'd get more and more aggressive... It would be doomsday for Jordan in the 7th to 10th.
I said Iran Barkley, not Charles. :lol:
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Yeah... But I think His Majesty, Michael Jordan, vs the knighted Sir Charles Barkley is a much better and more interesting matchup fans would pay for

I think Jordan could beat Iran Barkley easily because he's so fast and smart and so much bigger and taller then Iran... Barkley was so crude... But I'm not absolutely positive about that, because of how slowly Jordan took to baseball.. He couldn't get his bat on slick pitches despite taking tons of batting practice.. I thought that was a little weird because Deon Sanders and Bo Jackson played 2 sports and could hit a ton at their best.. Jordon seemed to have a blind spot.
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Kalan wrote: I think Jordan could beat Iran Barkley easily because he's so fast and smart and so much bigger and taller then Iran... ... But I'm not absolutely positive about that, because of how slowly Jordan took to baseball.
:lol: :lol:
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In a boxing ring, Iran Barkley would have used Michael Jordan's head for a slam-dunk contest!
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Cutman Scabbers wrote:In a boxing ring, Iran Barkley would have used Michael Jordan's head for a slam-dunk contest!
Clearly Charles was the superior Brakley in the ring. On a basketball court it would probably be different, I could see the smaller and more agile Iran run circles around Charles.
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Two things Iran Barkley wasn't was agile -- or a guy who could run circles around opponents... If you were a weak chinned dummy who got in his face, like Hearns, he could knock you out... But he couldn't beat Nunn, Kalambay, Benn, or other top Middleweights because he wasn't skilled enough... With the presumption Jordan would get 6 months to train and learn the sport, I don't see Iran beating him.
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What I need to know was if Joe Mesi could swim?

Once I know, I'll be able to answer this question properly. :TU:
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Kalan wrote: With the presumption Jordan would get 6 months to train and learn the sport, I don't see Iran beating him.
:lol:
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Syntax Error wrote:What I need to know was if Joe Mesi could swim?

Once I know, I'll be able to answer this question properly. :TU:
Not sure if Joe Mesi ever swam competitively---but Joe Frazier certainly tried to... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPk2zl5s6xM

His swimming coach said Frazier didn't listen too good... Maybe this negative trait is why Frazier got punched in the face so much by guys like Foreman... The only guy he ever faced who had tremendous big Heavyweight power.
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