Ward didn't win clearly a single round

[gilgamesh]

I'd say Ward clearly won Rounds 7, 8 and 9, but the others were debatable.

[Covfefe]

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That's low. Using a fake account to attack Malignaggi, you must be desperate for ways to attack him.

[BitPlayer]

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[crow]

My point is simple; this fight was too close to be called a robbery.

Why do you even keep posting on these boards?

You're a troll with an agenda and i made sure everyone knows who you are.

What is my agenda, other than to argue my position

It was not a robbery. 3 or 4 years from now I will still be defending my position as I do the Pac v Bradley 1 decision.

Your clear agenda on these boards is to defend boxing corruption.

4 years ago, it was corruption who brought Pac's best round of the fight (fifth rd) to be scored for Bradley on two of the cards.

This Saturday's bout is no exception. Ward receiving the 10th rd on all scorecards, and the 12th on 2; only corruption can explain that.

This is why you keep polluting nonstop this board .

Your gig is obvious to everyone with an ounce of common sense.

[jezzamundo]

Why do you even keep posting on these boards?

You're a troll with an agenda and i made sure everyone knows who you are.

What is my agenda, other than to argue my position

It was not a robbery. 3 or 4 years from now I will still be defending my position as I do the Pac v Bradley 1 decision.

Your clear agenda on these boards is to defend boxing corruption.

4 years ago, it was corruption who brought Pac's best round of the fight (fifth rd) to be scored for Bradley on two of the cards.

This Saturday's bout is no exception. Ward receiving the 10th rd on all scorecards, and the 12th on 2; only corruption can explain that.

This is why you keep polluting nonstop this board .

Your gig is obvious to everyone with an ounce of common sense.

I haven't rewatched the fight, but viewing it live, I had it 114-113, the same as Tanzio. I'm white, not American and I wanted Kovalev to win. It was a very close fight, Kovalev was unlucky not to win and should have been given the 10th, but it was far from being a robbery.

[Tanzio]

Why do you even keep posting on these boards?

You're a troll with an agenda and i made sure everyone knows who you are.

What is my agenda, other than to argue my position

It was not a robbery. 3 or 4 years from now I will still be defending my position as I do the Pac v Bradley 1 decision.

Your clear agenda on these boards is to defend boxing corruption.

4 years ago, it was corruption who brought Pac's best round of the fight (fifth rd) to be scored for Bradley on two of the cards.

This Saturday's bout is no exception. Ward receiving the 10th rd on all scorecards, and the 12th on 2; only corruption can explain that.

This is why you keep polluting nonstop this board .

Your gig is obvious to everyone with an ounce of common sense.

I have always pointed out decisions that I feel are robberies. I have always considered boxing to be corrupt. I have criticized Arum (Dusty the Organ grinder), ODLH, etc., etc.. I literally gave up boxing for a good portion of a decade after the JCC v Sweet Pea decision.

I just don't fly with your flock, blackturd.

[Coachmanager]

3,7,9,11 and 12 were clear rounds for Ward,imo, second viewing.

so taking the 10-8 round in to account he still lost convincingly .

1, 5 and 8 were also Ward rounds but very close to close, imo, second viewing. That adds up to 115-112 Ward. I gave Krusher 2, 4, 6 and 10 with only 2 being clear. That leaves six rounds (3 each) that I believe were close. If you gave Krusher all 6 of those close rounds then the fight would have been scored 115-112 Krusher.

My point is simple; this fight was too close to be called a robbery.

1 can't be a round for Ward in any case, Kovalev hurt him with a strong jab and landed more punches.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Honestly, I think Kovalev won 1,2,3,4 and 10.
Ward won 5,7,8 and 9.
Very close rounds : 6, 11 and 12.
Anyway, Kovalev was the better one, and he should have been the winner (more aggresive, more clean punches).

I think Ward landed more clean. He also made Kovalev miss an awful lot. Which you have to consider.

[littlepug]

Honestly, I think Kovalev won 1,2,3,4 and 10.
Ward won 5,7,8 and 9.
Very close rounds : 6, 11 and 12.
Anyway, Kovalev was the better one, and he should have been the winner (more aggresive, more clean punches).

I think Ward landed more clean. He also made Kovalev miss an awful lot. Which you have to consider.

also a lot of body shots which must count for something, got the feeling at times that kovalov was being "lead" around the ring by ward which could be confused with kovalov "stalking" ward which he was at times but as the fight wore on you sensed that ward was in control of where he wanted to be in the ring

[BAD INTENTIONS]

I really think the knockdown in round 2 shut a lot of people's minds off.
The rest of the fight carried the perception that Ward was weaker and Kovalev's punches were better.
Add the FACT that many of you despise Ward.

Ward wasn't visibly hurt for the rest of the fight after round 2.
In fact, Kovalev backed off more after getting punched later in the fight.

I understand 100% someone thinking Kovalev won.
But to say the fight wasn't even close?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I've never seen anyone hate ward as much as you adore him. He showed a lot of guys against a better boxer. No shame, he lost the fight. I'm sure if the fight went the exact opposite way you'd have scored it for sergey.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

The real perception problem after round 2 was that it settled into a boxing match and people like yourself just assumed that had to favor ward. It didn't.

[Tanzio]

The real perception problem after round 2 was that it settled into a boxing match and people like yourself just assumed that had to favor ward. It didn't.

The exact opposite is true, and you know it.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

The real perception problem after round 2 was that it settled into a boxing match and people like yourself just assumed that had to favor ward. It didn't.

The exact opposite is true, and you know it.

[Tanzio]

The real perception problem after round 2 was that it settled into a boxing match and people like yourself just assumed that had to favor ward. It didn't.

The exact opposite is true, and you know it.

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[SaadOffTheDeck]

Arguing with emotcons is a sad existence. Don't be a Rover.

[Tanzio]

Arguing with emotcons is a sad existence. Don't be a Rover.

[crow]

Ward wasn't visibly hurt for the rest of the fight after round 2.
?

He was hurt PLENTY in the first, in the last rd (twice; he immediately looked to clinch) and just about every time Kovalev landed his jab or right hand.



Ward's expression for the whole duration was one of apprehension and fear.

He looked like a bullied kid in there.

The one good thing about last saturday is that, at least, people will give it a rest now comparing Ward to Hopkins; the ship has sailed.

For good.

[Freedom2013]

[caldo2025]

I rewatched the fight, and couldn't give Ward a single round convincingly, contrary to Kovalev, who won rds 1,2,and 10 in a decisive manner.

Even the 12 th rd should have been a clear Kovalev rd, because he visibly hurt Ward at least twice, but didn't get the credit as Ward immediately came to clinch and survive.

The faces of both fighters at the end said it all.

I think that's why most people say that Kovalev was robbed even though they scored the fight close. Then you say "well, how can he be robbed if you had Kovalev winning by 2 points?". It's because of what you say above. We KNOW that Kovalev won certain rounds. We don't know that Ward won any rounds definitively. But the judges went ahead and gave Ward every round they could give him. If you are honestly scoring this fight then there's no way you could see this any worse than 2 point win for Kovalev. Judges had to go out of their way to award the rounds that they gave to Ward in the close rounds. There were a couple of rounds awarded to Ward where he didn't land a punch that i could see. And there's only ONE way you can look at the reasoning behind why they opted for Ward in those particular rounds and that's what made this close fight such a horrible decision. It's a one of a kind type of fight in that way. Maybe the Manny/JMM fights resembled it but can't think of any other fight similar.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

Ward wasn't visibly hurt for the rest of the fight after round 2.
?

He was hurt PLENTY in the first, in the last rd (twice; he immediately looked to clinch) and just about every time Kovalev landed his jab or right hand.



Ward's expression for the whole duration was one of apprehension and fear.

He looked like a bullied kid in there.

The one good thing about last saturday is that, at least, people will give it a rest now comparing Ward to Hopkins; the ship has sailed.

For good.

Did you post that gif to show me Kovalev landed a jab after missing 2.5 punches?

How you perceive Ward's face has nothing to do with scoring.
The fact you factor that in is evidence that ...

YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO SCORE FIGHTS

[Ricky_]

Ward wasn't visibly hurt for the rest of the fight after round 2.
?

He was hurt PLENTY in the first, in the last rd (twice; he immediately looked to clinch) and just about every time Kovalev landed his jab or right hand.



Ward's expression for the whole duration was one of apprehension and fear.

He looked like a bullied kid in there.

The one good thing about last saturday is that, at least, people will give it a rest now comparing Ward to Hopkins; the ship has sailed.

For good.

Did you post that gif to show me Kovalev landed a jab after missing 2.5 punches?

How you perceive Ward's face has nothing to do with scoring.
The fact you factor that in is evidence that ...

YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO SCORE FIGHTS

It's a clip of Ward running away, eating a jab while winding up a bolo showboat, and not so much as throwing a punch himself.

I suppose that meets all your criteria of Ward 'winning', you hipster.

[Covfefe]

Okay he took a jab there, but Ward clearly did get more and more comfortable as the fight went on. I'll be the first to admit it was close, I had Ward edging it but I couldn't argue with a Kovalev 114-113. I think Kovalev's inability in that fight to throw anything more than a 1-2 looking for the big right hand hindered him, he hurt Ward and then let the fight slip away.

[Tanzio]

Okay he took a jab there, but Ward clearly did get more and more comfortable as the fight went on. I'll be the first to admit it was close, I had Ward edging it but I couldn't argue with a Kovalev 114-113. I think Kovalev's inability in that fight to throw anything more than a 1-2 looking for the big right hand hindered him, he hurt Ward and then let the fight slip away.

Actually, Ward stole it away, in the ring.

[G.McClellan]

Gotta mute the TV, turn off all the lights, cell phones off, kick everyone out of the house, draw the blinds, meditate, then watch, but limit your blinking...... then it pretty obvious, Ward wins.

Not even then.