Round-By-Round - Joseph Parker (c) vs. Hughie Fury - September 23rd 2017

Parker vs. Fury Winner?

Poll ended at 11 Dec 2016, 07:11

Joseph Parker
100
61%
Hughie Fury
65
39%
 
Total votes: 165

Andrew
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Post by Andrew »

So failing a drugs test, not fighting since it was made public now means you can be a mandatory for a world title.

This whole Fury UKAD situation is being swept under the carpet and is just rotten
TopGun
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Post by TopGun »

Parker wins this, he will ware Fury down and get it on points. Be a very dull fight, it will lack a lot of skill and both fighters will be running on empty come round 8. Could even see a draw happening here
dirk2686
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Post by dirk2686 »

Quotes from that report, from Parker's promotional team:
If he were to beat Hughie Fury his stocks in the UK go through the roof. That sets up a juicy unification bout with the winner of [Wladimir] Klitschko and Joshua. If Joe fought Joshua it would sell out Wembley - you're talking 100,000 people and millions globally. That could be as soon as June
A few thoughts:

If he beats Fury his stock will remain pretty much as it is. Hughie is unknown outside of UK boxing hardcore circles. Plus the fight will in all likelihood be on BT/BN on a Saturday morning.

Joshua Parker isn't a Wembley fight. Wlad, Tyson Fury, Haye, Wilder. That's it.

June? I'd suggest the chances of Wembley hosting two fights in the space of nine weeks is essentially nil.
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Post by ElJefe »

Agree with that. Only way his stock considerably changes in the UK is if he fights a couple of times here against British fighters, Hughie, Price, Whyte, even Chisora. Just beating Hughie wouldn't make a great deal of difference, especially if he does it in NZ.
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dirk2686 wrote:
Quotes from that report, from Parker's promotional team:
If he were to beat Hughie Fury his stocks in the UK go through the roof. That sets up a juicy unification bout with the winner of [Wladimir] Klitschko and Joshua. If Joe fought Joshua it would sell out Wembley - you're talking 100,000 people and millions globally. That could be as soon as June
A few thoughts:

If he beats Fury his stock will remain pretty much as it is. Hughie is unknown outside of UK boxing hardcore circles. Plus the fight will in all likelihood be on BT/BN on a Saturday morning.

Joshua Parker isn't a Wembley fight. Wlad, Tyson Fury, Haye, Wilder. That's it.

June? I'd suggest the chances of Wembley hosting two fights in the space of nine weeks is essentially nil.
If Josh beats Klit, AJ-Me would be a Wembley fight. This is going to be big.
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bigjack
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Fury outpoints him for me.
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Post by jameswilson »

We take a punt we get home advantage!!!!
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wesshaw1985 wrote:Wilder wants the winner - http://www.BS.com/wilder-wants ... me--113446
I'll believe that sh*t when I see it.
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Re: WHO WINS? Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury

Post by Tangerine »

Hughie beats him imo.Parker doesnt move his head and I can see him eating Hughies jab all night.Hughie wins by decision in an ugly fight.
Deserter
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Post by Deserter »

I looked at the poll results and feel like I've slipped into some strange parallel universe. On what basis is anyone tipping Fury, who hasn't got a single win of note and who hasn't fought in nearly a year? Parker isn't in AJ or Wilder's league, but it's still a massive leap up for Hughie and I just can't make a case for him at all.
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Post by brilo33 »

a good hughie fury will beat parker i think 9 times outta 10, i dont think parker has any thing to scare fury with
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Deserter wrote:I looked at the poll results and feel like I've slipped into some strange parallel universe. On what basis is anyone tipping Fury, who hasn't got a single win of note and who hasn't fought in nearly a year? Parker isn't in AJ or Wilder's league, but it's still a massive leap up for Hughie and I just can't make a case for him at all.
Because whilst Hughie is unproven, Parker is proven only to the extent of being proven to be pretty limited. It's not unreasonable to pick the bloke with the better boxing talent
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Post by KiwiRider »

I'm from New Zealand, a huge boxing fan, and I haven't ever watched JP fight.
Why?
Because here, every fight he has had is PPV!
And I don't think any of his opponents have been worth paying to view. I was close to coughing up the dough for the Carlos Fight being his first match up inside the top 20. Ruiz was a joke to be fair.
How JP ever made it up the rankings by fighting guys outside the top 50 is beyond comprehension. But that's boxing for you.
I think Fury could beat JP if only he had another one or two fights before hand.
But JP's promoter will make him keep the belt he was gifted at all costs, a lot like the other plastic champion Wilder.
So I have to back Parker to win.
Will I pay to see it?
No chance. Not worth it.
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SamWise72 wrote:
Deserter wrote:I looked at the poll results and feel like I've slipped into some strange parallel universe. On what basis is anyone tipping Fury, who hasn't got a single win of note and who hasn't fought in nearly a year? Parker isn't in AJ or Wilder's league, but it's still a massive leap up for Hughie and I just can't make a case for him at all.
Because whilst Hughie is unproven, Parker is proven only to the extent of being proven to be pretty limited. It's not unreasonable to pick the bloke with the better boxing talent
Proven to be limited at a far higher level than Fury, that's the critical difference. It's impossible to talk about Hughie having the better boxing talent given the lack of substantive evidence to go on.
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Re: WHO WINS? Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury

Post by crusader »

I do think Fury has better fundamentals, but Parker's hands are quicker and he punches harder. Parker has also looked most vulnerable when being pressured and pushed back, but that's not Hughie's game.

Interesting match-up, though I can see the fight being a dud.
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Post by Andrew »

KiwiRider wrote:I'm from New Zealand, a huge boxing fan, and I haven't ever watched JP fight.
Why?
Because here, every fight he has had is PPV!
And I don't think any of his opponents have been worth paying to view. I was close to coughing up the dough for the Carlos Fight being his first match up inside the top 20. Ruiz was a joke to be fair.
How JP ever made it up the rankings by fighting guys outside the top 50 is beyond comprehension. But that's boxing for you.
I think Fury could beat JP if only he had another one or two fights before hand.
But JP's promoter will make him keep the belt he was gifted at all costs, a lot like the other plastic champion Wilder.
So I have to back Parker to win.
Will I pay to see it?
No chance. Not worth it.
What's it like getting into New Zealand with criminal records ? Is it really strict ?

Reason I'm asking is because Hughies dad and trainer has two prison terms one for drug related and money laundering. This stopped him getting into America a few years ago to train Tyson for his fight with Steve Cunningham.
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Post by dirk2686 »

Found the following regarding NZ visas. The bolded parts are where he falls down I think:
Applicants for all visas must be of good character, not pose a security risk and not threaten New Zealand’s international reputation.

People with serious character issues can’t be granted any visa or entry permission, except in very special circumstances.

People with other character issues must have the good character requirement waived before they can be granted a temporary visa.

Serious character issues

You can't be granted a visa if you:

have ever been convicted of an offence for which you were sentenced to a term of imprisonment of 5 years or more

have been convicted in the last 10 years of an offence for which you were sentenced to a term of imprisonment of 12 months or longer

are prohibited from entering New Zealand
have ever been removed, excluded or deported from any country.

You will also not be granted a visa if we have reason to believe you:

are likely to commit an offence in New Zealand that is punishable by imprisonment
are likely to be a risk to security
are likely to be a threat to public order
are likely to be a risk to the public interest.
If you have a serious character issue, you are normally ineligible to be granted a visa unless we grant you a special direction.
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Re: WHO WINS? Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury

Post by KiwiRider »

Naandrew wrote:
KiwiRider wrote:I'm from New Zealand, a huge boxing fan, and I haven't ever watched JP fight.
Why?
Because here, every fight he has had is PPV!
And I don't think any of his opponents have been worth paying to view. I was close to coughing up the dough for the Carlos Fight being his first match up inside the top 20. Ruiz was a joke to be fair.
How JP ever made it up the rankings by fighting guys outside the top 50 is beyond comprehension. But that's boxing for you.
I think Fury could beat JP if only he had another one or two fights before hand.
But JP's promoter will make him keep the belt he was gifted at all costs, a lot like the other plastic champion Wilder.
So I have to back Parker to win.
Will I pay to see it?
No chance. Not worth it.
What's it like getting into New Zealand with criminal records ? Is it really strict ?

Reason I'm asking is because Hughies dad and trainer has two prison terms one for drug related and money laundering. This stopped him getting into America a few years ago to train Tyson for his fight with Steve Cunningham.
The whole thing is pretty selective. Bob Marley got in. Like the way the world works, it's not what you know...
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