So how is the heavyweight situation working out this year?

[Jip]

isnt this arguably the biggest question we have in boxing aside from GGG vs Canelo?

Josh is having a fight he will easily win. Ortiz is waiting and Wilder fights slow Gerald.

what in everybodys mind is, what is realisticly happen next and will the top 3 have a dance?

I mean Ortiz was signed by matchroom to fight Josh, thats obvious. Wilder was welcomed by Floyd to the "I dont want to fight him cause of X reasons Chicken Club", when Ortiz said "lets go, i am available" and Wilder was like Bwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaakkkkkkkkkkkkk

is Josh boxing Ortiz next after Wlad, or will Haye have his chance after his easy fight, cause financiely Joshua-Haye makes more sense than Joshua-Ortiz, quality wise its no debate. Will Wilder leave the chicken club to fight the winner. what yall think?

[Kalan]

Wilder is fighting as many 2nd raters as possible... He doesn't want a real fight... He wants to wait for Josh and Ortiz to fight and fight somebody like Parker... He's out to keep his O as long as possible -- but Povetkin's defamation suit is coming straight at him as cold as a Russian winter.

[bigman1968]

What does it matter what Wilder and/or Ortiz are talking???

If DiBella and Hearns will think it's profitable - the Wilder vs Ortiz will happen.

[joe strong]

Wilder is fighting as many 2nd raters as possible... He doesn't want a real fight... He wants to wait for Josh and Ortiz to fight and fight somebody like Parker... He's out to keep his O as long as possible -- but Povetkin's defamation suit is coming straight at him as cold as a Russian winter.

with the 2nd failed test it won't go far. Povetkin should just be a man & take his punishment but that won't happen. He will soon be out of the WBC rankings so he won't be in line anymore. I like Povetkin & he went on a terror beating good fighters after losing to Klitschko but it looks like he is nothing more than a drug cheat now. Once fine but twice? Who is going to risk signing a fight with him now? Nobody for awhile I suspect unless they offer up big money & the opponent is okay to fight him anyway even if he fails a drug test. Duhaupas did but there was nothing at stake but 500000...

[jezzamundo]

isnt this arguably the biggest question we have in boxing aside from GGG vs Canelo?

Josh is having a fight he will easily win. Ortiz is waiting and Wilder fights slow Gerald.

what in everybodys mind is, what is realisticly happen next and will the top 3 have a dance?

I mean Ortiz was signed by matchroom to fight Josh, thats obvious. Wilder was welcomed by Floyd to the "I dont want to fight him cause of X reasons Chicken Club", when Ortiz said "lets go, i am available" and Wilder was like Bwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaakkkkkkkkkkkkk

is Josh boxing Ortiz next after Wlad, or will Haye have his chance after his easy fight, cause financiely Joshua-Haye makes more sense than Joshua-Ortiz, quality wise its no debate. Will Wilder leave the chicken club to fight the winner. what yall think?

I'm not so sure - Wlad is head-and-shoulders better than anyone Joshua has faced to date. If he looks like he did against Fury, I agree that Joshua beats and probably stops him, but if he can recapture some of his old form, he had a better jab and footspeed than Joshua as well as a right hand and a left hook that can stop anyone at heavyweight.

[Jip]

isnt this arguably the biggest question we have in boxing aside from GGG vs Canelo?

Josh is having a fight he will easily win. Ortiz is waiting and Wilder fights slow Gerald.

what in everybodys mind is, what is realisticly happen next and will the top 3 have a dance?

I mean Ortiz was signed by matchroom to fight Josh, thats obvious. Wilder was welcomed by Floyd to the "I dont want to fight him cause of X reasons Chicken Club", when Ortiz said "lets go, i am available" and Wilder was like Bwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaakkkkkkkkkkkkk

is Josh boxing Ortiz next after Wlad, or will Haye have his chance after his easy fight, cause financiely Joshua-Haye makes more sense than Joshua-Ortiz, quality wise its no debate. Will Wilder leave the chicken club to fight the winner. what yall think?

I'm not so sure - Wlad is head-and-shoulders better than anyone Joshua has faced to date. If he looks like he did against Fury, I agree that Joshua beats and probably stops him, but if he can recapture some of his old form, he had a better jab and footspeed than Joshua as well as a right hand and a left hook that can stop anyone at heavyweight.

wlad is good against 6'0-6'3 guys with b-c level skills. against any 6'4-6'7 guys with a level skills he gets wre§%&d. plain and simple. his brother, lewis, joshua, any tall strong guy with good all around skills and power putm to sleep. wlad is a 'okay chinned powerful boxer, who gets totaly confused ones he feels power, when than on top he got somebody infront of him with similar physic and height/reach its over. he cant wrestle anymore, he cant hold nobody, he tries, doesnt work. why? cause these guys are as strong, as tall as him and get out the wrestling manover. the smaller guys cant get out, cause as soon as they come in he leans over them and takes energy from them. you cant lean on a 6'7 guy, unless you are a center basketball player.

joshua ko 3, easy night. if i win you do 30 push ups, if i lose you do 30. good night

[jezzamundo]

isnt this arguably the biggest question we have in boxing aside from GGG vs Canelo?

Josh is having a fight he will easily win. Ortiz is waiting and Wilder fights slow Gerald.

what in everybodys mind is, what is realisticly happen next and will the top 3 have a dance?

I mean Ortiz was signed by matchroom to fight Josh, thats obvious. Wilder was welcomed by Floyd to the "I dont want to fight him cause of X reasons Chicken Club", when Ortiz said "lets go, i am available" and Wilder was like Bwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaakkkkkkkkkkkkk

is Josh boxing Ortiz next after Wlad, or will Haye have his chance after his easy fight, cause financiely Joshua-Haye makes more sense than Joshua-Ortiz, quality wise its no debate. Will Wilder leave the chicken club to fight the winner. what yall think?

I'm not so sure - Wlad is head-and-shoulders better than anyone Joshua has faced to date. If he looks like he did against Fury, I agree that Joshua beats and probably stops him, but if he can recapture some of his old form, he had a better jab and footspeed than Joshua as well as a right hand and a left hook that can stop anyone at heavyweight.

wlad is good against 6'0-6'3 guys with b-c level skills. against any 6'4-6'7 guys with a level skills he gets wre§%&d. plain and simple. his brother, lewis, joshua, any tall strong guy with good all around skills and power putm to sleep. wlad is a 'okay chinned powerful boxer, who gets totaly confused ones he feels power, when than on top he got somebody infront of him with similar physic and height/reach its over. he cant wrestle anymore, he cant hold nobody, he tries, doesnt work. why? cause these guys are as strong, as tall as him and get out the wrestling manover. the smaller guys cant get out, cause as soon as they come in he leans over them and takes energy from them. you cant lean on a 6'7 guy, unless you are a center basketball player.

joshua ko 3, easy night. if i win you do 30 push ups, if i lose you do 30. good night

Hang on, so I do 30 push ups no matter what happens?!

I do slightly favour Joshua and want him to win, but I wouldn't be shocked to see Wlad winning this one. I agree that Wlad, even in his prime, loses to Vitali and Lewis, I'm just not ready to put Joshua on their level yet.

[Jip]

I'm not so sure - Wlad is head-and-shoulders better than anyone Joshua has faced to date. If he looks like he did against Fury, I agree that Joshua beats and probably stops him, but if he can recapture some of his old form, he had a better jab and footspeed than Joshua as well as a right hand and a left hook that can stop anyone at heavyweight.

wlad is good against 6'0-6'3 guys with b-c level skills. against any 6'4-6'7 guys with a level skills he gets wre§%&d. plain and simple. his brother, lewis, joshua, any tall strong guy with good all around skills and power putm to sleep. wlad is a 'okay chinned powerful boxer, who gets totaly confused ones he feels power, when than on top he got somebody infront of him with similar physic and height/reach its over. he cant wrestle anymore, he cant hold nobody, he tries, doesnt work. why? cause these guys are as strong, as tall as him and get out the wrestling manover. the smaller guys cant get out, cause as soon as they come in he leans over them and takes energy from them. you cant lean on a 6'7 guy, unless you are a center basketball player.

joshua ko 3, easy night. if i win you do 30 push ups, if i lose you do 30. good night

Hang on, so I do 30 push ups no matter what happens?!

I do slightly favour Joshua and want him to win, but I wouldn't be shocked to see Wlad winning this one. I agree that Wlad, even in his prime, loses to Vitali and Lewis, I'm just not ready to put Joshua on their level yet.

you know that i dont make sense.....just make 30 push ups nevertheless

joshua is already their. he got equaly if not more punching power than lewis and vitaly, is more athletic than both. he is already top. height, reach, fitness. come on the dude is serious.

[asdfjkl]

TBH I expect a lot less firework as possible. Only AJ and Klitschko will be after top opponents all others don't, or only for good cash.

[Rob3_142]

wlad is good against 6'0-6'3 guys with b-c level skills. against any 6'4-6'7 guys with a level skills he gets wre§%&d. plain and simple. his brother, lewis, joshua, any tall strong guy with good all around skills and power putm to sleep. wlad is a 'okay chinned powerful boxer, who gets totaly confused ones he feels power, when than on top he got somebody infront of him with similar physic and height/reach its over. he cant wrestle anymore, he cant hold nobody, he tries, doesnt work. why? cause these guys are as strong, as tall as him and get out the wrestling manover. the smaller guys cant get out, cause as soon as they come in he leans over them and takes energy from them. you cant lean on a 6'7 guy, unless you are a center basketball player.

joshua ko 3, easy night. if i win you do 30 push ups, if i lose you do 30. good night

Hang on, so I do 30 push ups no matter what happens?!

I do slightly favour Joshua and want him to win, but I wouldn't be shocked to see Wlad winning this one. I agree that Wlad, even in his prime, loses to Vitali and Lewis, I'm just not ready to put Joshua on their level yet.

you know that i dont make sense.....just make 30 push ups nevertheless

joshua is already their. he got equaly if not more punching power than lewis and vitaly, is more athletic than both. he is already top. height, reach, fitness. come on the dude is serious.

Yeah but does he have the chin?

[Jip]

Hang on, so I do 30 push ups no matter what happens?!

I do slightly favour Joshua and want him to win, but I wouldn't be shocked to see Wlad winning this one. I agree that Wlad, even in his prime, loses to Vitali and Lewis, I'm just not ready to put Joshua on their level yet.

you know that i dont make sense.....just make 30 push ups nevertheless

joshua is already their. he got equaly if not more punching power than lewis and vitaly, is more athletic than both. he is already top. height, reach, fitness. come on the dude is serious.

Yeah but does he have the chin?

thats the big question. but lewis and wlad also didnt have no tua like chin and still managed to become amongs the best heavyweights ever.

[Rob3_142]

you know that i dont make sense.....just make 30 push ups nevertheless

joshua is already their. he got equaly if not more punching power than lewis and vitaly, is more athletic than both. he is already top. height, reach, fitness. come on the dude is serious.

Yeah but does he have the chin?

thats the big question. but lewis and wlad also didnt have no tua like chin and still managed to become amongs the best heavyweights ever.

Yeah but then again, not many had a chin like David Tua! lol.

Problem is, if Joshua's chin is like David Price's. That won't bode well.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Yeah but does he have the chin?

thats the big question. but lewis and wlad also didnt have no tua like chin and still managed to become amongs the best heavyweights ever.

Yeah but then again, not many had a chin like David Tua! lol.

Problem is, if Joshua's chin is like David Price's. That won't bode well.

Wlad's chin is no better than Price, he's just in way better shape and miles harder to hit.

[littlepug]

Hang on, so I do 30 push ups no matter what happens?!

I do slightly favour Joshua and want him to win, but I wouldn't be shocked to see Wlad winning this one. I agree that Wlad, even in his prime, loses to Vitali and Lewis, I'm just not ready to put Joshua on their level yet.

you know that i dont make sense.....just make 30 push ups nevertheless

joshua is already their. he got equaly if not more punching power than lewis and vitaly, is more athletic than both. he is already top. height, reach, fitness. come on the dude is serious.

Yeah but does he have the chin?

have you seen the vid of josh getting stopped in the ams by the romanian guy in the europeans ? i know its the ams and all that but once he was tagged he was like a sitting target for the hooks

[Rob3_142]

you know that i dont make sense.....just make 30 push ups nevertheless

joshua is already their. he got equaly if not more punching power than lewis and vitaly, is more athletic than both. he is already top. height, reach, fitness. come on the dude is serious.

Yeah but does he have the chin?

have you seen the vid of josh getting stopped in the ams by the romanian guy in the europeans ? i know its the ams and all that but once he was tagged he was like a sitting target for the hooks

I just think back to the Whyte wobble. In my memory Joshua has only been caught once so far. If he can carry on not getting hit, then great, won't be a problem, but he's going to get caught properly eventually. That's when we'll see what he's made of!

[BitPlayer]

I was really optimistic about the division last year, and in the end it'd wouldn't have been much worse for HW boxing if there was a world wide ban on anyone over 200Ib competing in combat sports.

[Rob3_142]

I was really optimistic about the division last year, and in the end it'd wouldn't have been much worse for HW boxing if there was a world wide ban on anyone over 200Ib competing in combat sports.

Surely the fight between Joshua v Klitschko is a decent start to 2017...?

[jezzamundo]

wlad is good against 6'0-6'3 guys with b-c level skills. against any 6'4-6'7 guys with a level skills he gets wre§%&d. plain and simple. his brother, lewis, joshua, any tall strong guy with good all around skills and power putm to sleep. wlad is a 'okay chinned powerful boxer, who gets totaly confused ones he feels power, when than on top he got somebody infront of him with similar physic and height/reach its over. he cant wrestle anymore, he cant hold nobody, he tries, doesnt work. why? cause these guys are as strong, as tall as him and get out the wrestling manover. the smaller guys cant get out, cause as soon as they come in he leans over them and takes energy from them. you cant lean on a 6'7 guy, unless you are a center basketball player.

joshua ko 3, easy night. if i win you do 30 push ups, if i lose you do 30. good night

Hang on, so I do 30 push ups no matter what happens?!

I do slightly favour Joshua and want him to win, but I wouldn't be shocked to see Wlad winning this one. I agree that Wlad, even in his prime, loses to Vitali and Lewis, I'm just not ready to put Joshua on their level yet.

you know that i dont make sense.....just make 30 push ups nevertheless

joshua is already their. he got equaly if not more punching power than lewis and vitaly, is more athletic than both. he is already top. height, reach, fitness. come on the dude is serious.

We can't possibly know what level Joshua is on until he steps up his opposition. He definitely hits harder than Vitali, not sure about Lewis, and to my eyes he looks less athletic than both Lewis and Vitali. His handspeed is good - definitely faster than Vitali and comparable to a young Lewis, but he looks to have relatively slow feet and he can look a bit robotic.

[Tony1244]

I would be AMAZED if Klit-Joshua happened on the date it is scheduled.

[Rob3_142]

I would be AMAZED if Klit-Joshua happened on the date it is scheduled.

Why the hell would you say that?

[Tony1244]

I would be AMAZED if Klit-Joshua happened on the date it is scheduled.

Why the hell would you say that?

Someone's going to tear a muscle, or stub a toe, or flunk a test.

I'm basing this on countless postponed HWs fights.

[Rob3_142]

I would be AMAZED if Klit-Joshua happened on the date it is scheduled.

Why the hell would you say that?

Someone's going to tear a muscle, or stub a toe, or flunk a test.

I'm basing this on countless postponed HWs fights.

How many postponed fights has Joshua had? How many postponed fights has Klitschko had? I think we're looking at two pretty reliable fighters who seem to have integrity and just sold out Wembley.

Never happening.

[Tony1244]

Why the hell would you say that?

Someone's going to tear a muscle, or stub a toe, or flunk a test.

I'm basing this on countless postponed HWs fights.

How many postponed fights has Joshua had? How many postponed fights has Klitschko had? I think we're looking at two pretty reliable fighters who seem to have integrity and just sold out Wembley.

Never happening.

I very much want to be wrong. I hope you're right. They both have had some injuries and postponements, but granted neither of them are David Haye or have flunked a PED to my knowledge.

[BitPlayer]

I was really optimistic about the division last year, and in the end it'd wouldn't have been much worse for HW boxing if there was a world wide ban on anyone over 200Ib competing in combat sports.

Surely the fight between Joshua v Klitschko is a decent start to 2017...?

There was a ton to be positive about last year, like Wilder-Povetkin and Fury-Wlad II, and unification fights.

[Rob3_142]

I was really optimistic about the division last year, and in the end it'd wouldn't have been much worse for HW boxing if there was a world wide ban on anyone over 200Ib competing in combat sports.

Surely the fight between Joshua v Klitschko is a decent start to 2017...?

There was a ton to be positive about last year, like Wilder-Povetkin and Fury-Wlad II, and unification fights.

But surely these guys being lined up is a lot more encouraging. Wilder has his usual temperament where he'll avoid the fight wherever he can, and Fury has never really been the same since he beat Klitschko. These two genuinely wanna fight each other and the build up is already gathering real momentum.