Garcia On Dad's Tirade: Free Speech, He Can Say What He Wants

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Garcia On Dad's Tirade: Free Speech, He Can Say What He Wants

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"Garcia On Dad's Tirade: Free Speech, He Can Say What He Wants"

Danny Garcia isn’t about to apologize for his father’s controversial actions at a press conference last month.

When asked Tuesday about Angel Garcia’s vile verbal attack on Keith Thurman during the January 18 press conference to officially announce their March 4 fight, Danny Garcia said he has seen worse behavior at press conferences and that freedom of speech in America affords his father/trainer the right to say what he wants.

Danny Garcia said during a conference call Tuesday..

“You know, it is what it is at the end of the day. It’s a press conference. I’ve seen worse things happen in press conferences before. You know, nobody got hurt. Nobody got hurt in the press conference, so you know, freedom of speech in America – you could say whatever you wanna say. And it is what it is. At the end of the day, it’s a fight coming March 4th and that’s all that really matters.”

Danny Garcia was asked about Angel Garcia repeatedly referring to Thurman, who’s black, as a “n*gga” and a “b*tch” during an ugly incident in which Angel Garcia and Thurman had to be separated by DiBella and others on stage.

“At the end of the day, my dad’s from the inner city of Philadelphia. So he wasn’t being racist. I know it’s not right, but people talk like that every day in the city of Philly or any inner-city you come from. So he wasn’t being racist. He was just talking like where he’s from. I’m not saying it’s right. I’m not saying it’s wrong. But at the end of the day, you know, it is what it is. I didn’t take it in no way because I know he didn’t mean it in that way. So it is what it is.”
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For me, the elephant in the room is the endless intimidation tactics that have been systematically introduced at the weigh ins, face offs and press conferences for almost any big fight these last 50 years.

It all started with Ali.

It has degenerated into a circus where a lot of people can get hurt. Today it's the "N" word; yesterday it was Tyson biting Lennox' leg, Bowe suckerpunching whoever he was facing, and Briggs calling Liakhovitch a white racist.

Everything goes nowadays. People aren't even surprised anymore.
It's like the endless flow of bad news you watch on the telly day in day out.
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I think that Danny makes a really good point here and I think that it's why they are not coming down hard as they could on his Dad. I was pissed when i first saw the tirade because of the racial nature of it all and because he hijacked the press conference but after giving it some thought, this is how they speak in the hood. I'm way too white to sit up here judging someone over it because I always had a warm bed to sleep in and money in my pockets. I'd like to just see the N word removed from any situation because it's just an ugly ass word that hits me like nails on a chalkboard. White or Black, the word needs to go.

I wish that black people would honestly find a suitable replacement in their vocabulary for it as well. The only ones allowed to say it are black people right now and they seem to be the only one's keeping it alive. That's not racist, that's actually what's happening. Just stop saying it and it will leave most people's mouths for good.
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Bullshit rationalizing from Danny. I would like to see the Garcia's response if Thurman called them stupid low life Rican's. Inserting someone's race or ethnicity in attacking them is the lowest of the low. Attack someone's character if you want because that can always be changed but you can't change who you are. I hope Thurman brutally KO's Danny and then bitch slaps his loud mouth dad.
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Baby Face Finster wrote:Bullshit rationalizing from Danny. I would like to see the Garcia's response if Thurman called them stupid low life Rican's. Inserting someone's race or ethnicity in attacking them is the lowest of the low. Attack someone's character if you want because that can always be changed but you can't change who you are. I hope Thurman brutally KO's Danny and then bitch slaps his loud mouth dad.
Just seeing Danny's dad whining and crying about his son losing will be pretty sweet.
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Baby Face Finster wrote:Bullshit rationalizing from Danny. I would like to see the Garcia's response if Thurman called them stupid low life Rican's. Inserting someone's race or ethnicity in attacking them is the lowest of the low. Attack someone's character if you want because that can always be changed but you can't change who you are. I hope Thurman brutally KO's Danny and then bitch slaps his loud mouth dad.
While I definitely agree with your point from a philosophical sense, that's now how arguments, disagreements, intimidation, whatever you want to call it works. When you call someone a name or make fun of someone, it's typically some kind of visible difference, ex: four eyes for a kid with glasses, fatty for an overweight person, etc. Angel Garcia really appears to be a piece of trash, but he's trying to intimidate and bully and what he's doing is typical schoolyard. It's much too hard for a typical bully to attack someone's character as that *should* take enough rational thought that you wouldn't be bullying in the first place. It's not acceptable behavior for a rational person in a social setting, but these are basically somewhat reformed street toughs at a boxing press conference.
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Im glad to see Danny backing up his old man. The man who raised him and has helped guide his career. Who cares if other peoples feelings get hurt. this is boxing, a sport of people who come from nothing. Meanwhile, Jay Z cant stop saying "nigga this and nigga that." what does he get, .... a billion dollars and now the introductory member of the song writers hall of fame. Eff this nonsense and hypocrisy. Hope Danny knocks this fool out. Go Danny.
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One day his old man will get his clock cleaned at one of these press conferences or weigh ins, he's a complete fornicating scum bag, he should be banned from the sport.
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Danny Garcia should have just said no comment regarding his idiot father. If you try to justify racist comments, it makes you look like an idiot. Danny Garcia is an idiot in this case. Sooner or later he will get tired of trying to justify what his father says or does.
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Garcia should be banned for that garbage he has vomited, period. There is no place in boxing for such lunatics.
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Free speech isn't hate speech... You can't say what you please without sanctions... They need to show Angel the door and ban him from the corner and future press conferences.. If I were Danny I wouldn't defend my dad saying those things.. Inner city guys straighten up when they're invited over to meet their girl friend's parents -- or are put into a televised setting where their words and actions are going to be recorded.

I've been around people who use the N-word all my life, and I've always objected to it harshly -- even if it destroyed a friendship or caused a fist fight... Don't use that word in my presence whether you're black or white.. Don't call people crackers.. Don't generalize about people or hate on people.. Don't get in my face or call me a preacher because I object to your language..

Get away from me and stay away until you watch your language and your behavior improves.. Don't bring a hater into my presence after I've asked you not to. Some people need to play the bad ass. What impresses people is what you accomplish not tough talk. Joshua has a great attitude. Whyte, Martin, and Breazeale tried to play bad asses in stare-downs and press conferences with him. You don't need to talk like a wrestler and be a bad ass. That act denigrates the sport. De La Hoya was a bit of a phony the other way -- trying to project a positive image while behind the scenes he was a womanizer, boozer, and flake.. But I actually think there's nothing wrong with that.. If you have problems in your life don't project them like Tyson Fury.. Behave as if you don't have them.. Be a role model in front of the cameras - even if you suck in real life... It's better than sucking in both settings.
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It’s naïve to believe that Danny Garcia has complete control over Angel Garcia’s words. It was categorically impossible for me to control my dad’s actions. So I can’t criticise him for refraining to attack his own father.

Whilst Angel’s actions may not be politically correct, the racial slurs that he used were merely an extreme form of promotion, aimed to sell the fight to the masses.

Angel Garcia isn’t a racist. He may have used a select few words that would be deemed as wholly unacceptable to the masses, but in my mind, he isn’t racist.
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Enlightened-One wrote:It’s naïve to believe that Danny Garcia has complete control over Angel Garcia’s words. It was categorically impossible for me to control my dad’s actions. So I can’t criticise him for refraining to attack his own father.

Whilst Angel’s actions may not be politically correct, the racial slurs that he used were merely an extreme form of promotion, aimed to sell the fight to the masses.

Angel Garcia isn’t a racist. He may have used a select few words that would be deemed as wholly unacceptable to the masses, but in my mind, he isn’t racist.
I agree with this. Angel's rant had nothing to do with racism and everything to do with selling the fight.

Danny's hardly gonna come out and criticize his own father when Angel's whole persona has been created by team Garcia to draw maximum publicity for them with minimum effort by Danny.

Why have a dog and bark yourself ?
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Nightmare Roy wrote:One day his old man will get his clock cleaned at one of these press conferences or weigh ins, he's a complete effing scum bag, he should be banned from the sport.
I think if it was gonna happen it would've happened by now which leads me to believe that people in boxing who come into contact with the seemingly awful Garcia Sr at press conferences etc know his performance to be an act and therefore don't feel the need to properly confront him
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In my opinion, both CaptainSpacerod and Enlightened One are idiots, and very delusional pieces of shitt. I'm guessing you both live with your parents and probably are in to incest. Does that bother you at all? Free speech, right? Is it ok to say that on a forum but not in public? Are they the same? Maybe I was just kidding and wanted to help promote the fight.

Look, if you have even half of a brain, you can separate what is racist, what is not, what is bullshit, what is not. Some spout on here all the time about crap that has no merit or fact connection at all.

Angel Garcia is a piece of shit racist, because of what he said. It makes no difference if he said it before the fight, after the fight, etc. When you choose to use that kind of language in public, when you are in the public eye, the shitt that comes out of your mouth runs downhill, right back at ya.
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It's all good sticking up for your dad etc but ask yourself.. Would you stand for his behaviour if he was your old man? I sure as fukk wouldn't. He's a total embarrassment to himself and his son. Danny sticking up for him just makes him look a fuckin imbecile by association.

Whether it's an act or not the guy is personally offensive and I'm surprised nobody has chinned the daft old prick. I sincerely hope Thurman puts these idiots in their place and shuts them up.... For a while at least.
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Puerto Ricans in the hood call each other nigga.
They are black in many hoods. Have been for a long time

You guys don't understand what Garcia was saying.
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BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Puerto Ricans in the hood call each other nigga.
They are black in many hoods. Have been for a long time

You guys don't understand what Garcia was saying.
There are Puerto Ricans in Watford ?
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Finally saw the presser.
Putting it in words does it a bit of an in justice.

Way I read it.
Danny's old man did made himself out to be a bit of knob, it was way over the top and embarrassing in public if anything.
The race card ... sounds good in words but as you could clearly see everyone took it as pure trash talk and hype, some were breaking a smile.
Listen to Garcia Sr screaming and hollering ... omg I just hope the fight is big enough to supersede that.
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Who gives a f.ck where he is from if he wants to talk like that then he will get his ass and his sons ass kicked Go Thurman the old fool just gave you 500 hundred of his dumb ass sons bullet's thank you pop :clap: :TU: :OhYes:
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It's all mad isn't it, guess what pisses me off is that boxing has to use THAT for a fight like THIS.
Style, quality, the unknown and reputations just for starters with Danny Garcia 33-0 v 27-0 Keith Thurman.
And they could only come up with race :lol:
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