Why Mayweather Shouldn't Be Considered An Alltime Great

[Covfefe]

Just had a look at that vid, skipped forward a bit the first punch scored for Pacquaio in round two quite clearly misses.

I watched this long ago when someone posted it.
It scored misses for Pac and didn't score clear hits for Floyd.
It was a joke

Yeah it seemed that way, they were quite obvious misses I saw scored for Pac too. Not going to bother with the rest.

[Ricky_]

Just had a look at that vid, skipped forward a bit the first punch scored for Pacquaio in round two quite clearly misses.

I watched this long ago when someone posted it.
It scored misses for Pac and didn't score clear hits for Floyd.
It was a joke

Yeah it seemed that way, they were quite obvious misses I saw scored for Pac too. Not going to bother with the rest.

But you take punch stats as gospel from compubox without a correlating video? Punchstats from a slow-motion replay video are far more likely to be a more accurate count than compubox which is done in real time. Bit like a linesman making an offside goal vs assessing slow motion/paused replay with graphics showing the line.

[Covfefe]

I watched this long ago when someone posted it.
It scored misses for Pac and didn't score clear hits for Floyd.
It was a joke

Yeah it seemed that way, they were quite obvious misses I saw scored for Pac too. Not going to bother with the rest.

But you take punch stats as gospel from compubox without a correlating video? Punchstats from a slow-motion replay video are far more likely to be a more accurate count than compubox which is done in real time. Bit like a linesman making an offside goal vs assessing slow motion/paused replay with graphics showing the line.

I don't think for a second think compubox is 100% accurate. I just think the numbers are too large for even mistakes to correct. And it reflects what I saw in the fight. I saw Mayweather Outland Pacquaio and the numbers seem to agree with what I saw, I've no reason to think they're not correct enough to try to argue with them. Although as I say, I don't expect they're totally accurate. That video was horrible though in scoring obviously missed punches I could see in real time.

[NateJR]

Mayweather is an all time great, Canelo & GGG creeping up behind. just seen that Canelo remaining at 160 on this article - http://fightcitynews.com/2017/02/23/can ... vez-fight/

They both have a long ways to go.

[caldo2025]

that's the best way to watch that mess of a fight. Eliminate all the pauses in the action and only show the exchanges. I had Manny winning the fight as well. Manny clearly landed the most punches and pushed the pace of the fight. Floyd's punches were cleaner though and a couple clean punches erase a lot of work Manny did in those rounds.

The fix was in though. The only way Manny won that fight is with a knockout. In the last couple of years of Floyd's career, he knew that he just needed to finish on his feet to get the win. Dave Morretti was paid very well during Floyds run. NOT TBE

[bnovelist]

Yes but he ducked anyone in their prime who posed a threat! Back then when Cotto was beating everybody he faced I said to myself "Hell No..Floyd

Isn't Fighting Cotto." and it turned out to be the truth. Then he pulled it again with Manny Pacquaio waiting almost 10yrs till Manny lost his edge.

Floyd is nothing like Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Benetiz, Leonard, etc.. It was killer season with these guys they fought everyone. Oscar fought

undefeated Quartey, Tito, & Shane! Would Floyd show cajones doing something like this hell no!

[Kalan]

This video is like Duane Ford and CJ Ross's interpretations of Bradley-Pacquiao. The fight would have to be fought in the Philippines to get a score like this. You have to watch fights in REAL TIME to score them accurately. Or at least Slo-mo with no stops for when you think a punch scored. You can’t score touches. A touch is not a clean effective punch. Pacquiao wasn’t getting anything on his jab or right hook. He was outscored by Floyd who landed effective shots with both hands.

Pac landed the best punch of the fight. The big left in the 4th. He’s not a KO puncher at Welterweight—but that shot was about his only chance. Floyd knew he got hit real good -- and Pac didn’t follow up well at all.. He backed off when he had Floyd plastered against the ropes ... a terrible effort.

[Jip]

Yes but he ducked anyone in their prime who posed a threat! Back then when Cotto was beating everybody he faced I said to myself "Hell No..Floyd

Isn't Fighting Cotto." and it turned out to be the truth. Then he pulled it again with Manny Pacquaio waiting almost 10yrs till Manny lost his edge.

Floyd is nothing like Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Benetiz, Leonard, etc.. It was killer season with these guys they fought everyone. Oscar fought

undefeated Quartey, Tito, & Shane! Would Floyd show cajones doing something like this hell no!

floyd wanted nothing of the golden era of welterweights when prime oscar, prime tito, prime mosley were in town

he waited waited waited and waited as long as he could around super featherweight, lightweight, just NO match up involving him with tszyu, tito, oscar or mosley, 100 %

[Oiky]

It's only obvious mayweather shouldn't be considered an atg

He is a very skilled boxer no doubt

But one who played his career very safe

[world ranked]

that's the best way to watch that mess of a fight. Eliminate all the pauses in the action and only show the exchanges. I had Manny winning the fight as well. Manny clearly landed the most punches and pushed the pace of the fight. Floyd's punches were cleaner though and a couple clean punches erase a lot of work Manny did in those rounds.

The fix was in though. The only way Manny won that fight is with a knockout. In the last couple of years of Floyd's career, he knew that he just needed to finish on his feet to get the win. Dave Morretti was paid very well during Floyds run. NOT TBE

Who's argueing TBE the point is he ATG. How he can he not he beat everyone who you will consider an ATG in his era. To make any excuse that he's not is hating but he did cherry pick no question.

[Kalan]

Floyd didn't invent cherry-picking.. Many did it.. Robinson avoided Burley and Moore... Leonard avoided Nunn and McCallum... Ali avoided Holmes in favor of Leon Spinks when he had a Heavyweight Title to risk... Ali quit after Spinks II and never intended to fight again. But 2 years later he needed money badly and the Ali fight was meaningless for Holmes at that point.. Dempsey never did fight Harry Wills, and Joe Louis didn't give Max Schmeling a timely rematch.

I didn't like Mayweather's choice of Andre Berto when undefeated Welterweight Champions Keith Thurman and Kell Brook were available for unification fights.. They could both box and punch rings around Berto.. That's about the only real ducking I saw Floyd doing.. Paul Williams got knocked out by Sergio Martinez.. Margarito was a pathetic boxer against Mosley when his plastered wraps were confiscated.. Kostya Tszyu was stopped by Hatton, so he was no threat

[caldo2025]

that's the best way to watch that mess of a fight. Eliminate all the pauses in the action and only show the exchanges. I had Manny winning the fight as well. Manny clearly landed the most punches and pushed the pace of the fight. Floyd's punches were cleaner though and a couple clean punches erase a lot of work Manny did in those rounds.

The fix was in though. The only way Manny won that fight is with a knockout. In the last couple of years of Floyd's career, he knew that he just needed to finish on his feet to get the win. Dave Morretti was paid very well during Floyds run. NOT TBE

Who's argueing TBE the point is he ATG. How he can he not he beat everyone who you will consider an ATG in his era. To make any excuse that he's not is hating but he did cherry pick no question.

No idea what the heck you are trying to say there, Floyd.

[bnovelist]

Look at him selling those wolf tickets He know damn well should be fighting either Porter or The Thurman/Garcia winner. He's trying to brainwash us all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxC_-7FTXK4

[Jip]

but peopel are stupid bno......

they gonne buy that sh§%$t...than after the fight, they will cry "it was so boring, that conor guy got totaly outclassed, he couldnt box"....like they didnt knew before

[tomatocan]

mayweather can beat klitschko, ggg and zelenoff all in the same night and STILL not get any respect from his critics

[Cygnus475]

If you still think all Floyd does is "run" and "hug" in 2017 and you've (supposedly) been watching matches for years, then you are simply unintelligent.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=Ip7wJ0Y9OLo

[Prachya]

The only 2 fighters he fought in their peak was Castillo 2002' and Marcos Maidana

The another else was Canelo, Chino was not good enough tho. Just my view sorry.

[Prachya]

He might be the best boxer of an era yet he ruined the boxing, He had not made the fans got excited.
What do you think?