Then and now....
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PredatorHayds
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Re: Then and now....
Chisora
A.Selby
J.Conlan
GGG
Higa
Breazeale
Danny Williams (love the bloke)
Lennox Lewis
Chris Eubank
Thomas Hearns
Emile Griffith
Roberto Duran
I feel a prick for leaving out Sonny Liston as I love the bloke but just edged towards Duran.
A.Selby
J.Conlan
GGG
Higa
Breazeale
Danny Williams (love the bloke)
Lennox Lewis
Chris Eubank
Thomas Hearns
Emile Griffith
Roberto Duran
I feel a prick for leaving out Sonny Liston as I love the bloke but just edged towards Duran.
Re: Then and now....
Can't argue with any of that, I just didn't think I'd see him listed in anyones top 3Naandrew wrote:He had some class fights and should be remembered fondly.davie wrote:Marcos Maidana getting a lot of love one here.
Never thought I'd see his name, let alone twice
The Amir Khan one is among the best I have ever watched and the Broner win is one of the most enjoyable fights of my time watching boxing.
He also arguably gave Floyd his hardest ever fight ( except Castillo first time ).
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dr_devious
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Re: Then and now....
Breazeale is a bit left field?PredatorHayds wrote:Chisora
A.Selby
J.Conlan
GGG
Higa
Breazeale
Danny Williams (love the bloke)
Lennox Lewis
Chris Eubank
Thomas Hearns
Emile Griffith
Roberto Duran
I feel a prick for leaving out Sonny Liston as I love the bloke but just edged towards Duran.
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PredatorHayds
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Re: Then and now....
Has a lot of heart. I admire that.dr_devious wrote:Breazeale is a bit left field?PredatorHayds wrote:Chisora
A.Selby
J.Conlan
GGG
Higa
Breazeale
Danny Williams (love the bloke)
Lennox Lewis
Chris Eubank
Thomas Hearns
Emile Griffith
Roberto Duran
I feel a prick for leaving out Sonny Liston as I love the bloke but just edged towards Duran.
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dr_devious
- Heavyweight

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Re: Then and now....
True, he's a decent fighter with a good chin that put up a good show against AJ
Re: Then and now....
Now
Joshua
Burns
Keiren Smith
Lomachenko
GGG
Gonzales
Yesteryear
Buchanan
Froch
Conteh
Juan Manuel Marquez
Salvador Sanchez
Evander Holyfield
Joshua
Burns
Keiren Smith
Lomachenko
GGG
Gonzales
Yesteryear
Buchanan
Froch
Conteh
Juan Manuel Marquez
Salvador Sanchez
Evander Holyfield
Re: Then and now....
Forgot about him, should have made my listTomasino wrote: Salvador Sanchez
Re: Then and now....
davie wrote:Forgot about him, should have made my listTomasino wrote: Salvador Sanchez
There's so many to like tho.
Re: Then and now....
Frampton
Tyson Fury
Katie Taylor
Crawford
GGG
Lomachenko
Froch
Frank Bruno
Henry Cooper
Ali
Robinson
John L Sullivan
Tyson Fury
Katie Taylor
Crawford
GGG
Lomachenko
Froch
Frank Bruno
Henry Cooper
Ali
Robinson
John L Sullivan
Re: Then and now....
Going for favourites rather than the best:
Current British:
Amir Khan
Anthony Joshua
Kal Yafai
Current International
Roman Gonzalez (hoping he drops back down to flyweight)
Vasil Lomachenko
David Lemieux
All-time British:
Kirkland Laing
Carl Froch
Nigel Benn (very close call ahead of Dennis Andries)
All-time International
Muhammad Ali
Tommy Hearns
Khaosai Galaxy
Current British:
Amir Khan
Anthony Joshua
Kal Yafai
Current International
Roman Gonzalez (hoping he drops back down to flyweight)
Vasil Lomachenko
David Lemieux
All-time British:
Kirkland Laing
Carl Froch
Nigel Benn (very close call ahead of Dennis Andries)
All-time International
Muhammad Ali
Tommy Hearns
Khaosai Galaxy
Re: Then and now....
hen:
Brits: Benn, Lewis, Honeyghan
Intl: Toney, Jones Jr, Tyson
Now:
Brits: Haskins, Chisora, Burns
Intl: Lomachenko, Mayweather (assuming he is coming back), Cotto
Brits: Benn, Lewis, Honeyghan
Intl: Toney, Jones Jr, Tyson
Now:
Brits: Haskins, Chisora, Burns
Intl: Lomachenko, Mayweather (assuming he is coming back), Cotto
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EdwinValero
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Re: Then and now....
Now:
Frampton
Joshua
Brook
GGG
Lomachenko
Pac
Then (In my lifetime):
Hatton
Calzaghe
Froch
RJJ
Marco Antonio Barrera
Holyfield
Frampton
Joshua
Brook
GGG
Lomachenko
Pac
Then (In my lifetime):
Hatton
Calzaghe
Froch
RJJ
Marco Antonio Barrera
Holyfield
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Now
Selby
Haye
Cleverly
GGG
Pacquiao
Kovalev
Then
Calzaghe
Benn
Jason Cook (from my home town)
JM Marquez
Cotto
Kessler
Selby
Haye
Cleverly
GGG
Pacquiao
Kovalev
Then
Calzaghe
Benn
Jason Cook (from my home town)
JM Marquez
Cotto
Kessler
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fightfan95
- Welterweight
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Re: Then and now....
I'll do my favourites...
Now:
UK:
Anthony Crolla
Martin Murray
Anthony Joshua
International:
GGG
Sergey Kovalev
Pacman
Then:
UK:
Carl Froch
Lennox Lewis
Ricky Hatton
International:
Marvin Hagler
Ali
Tyson
Now:
UK:
Anthony Crolla
Martin Murray
Anthony Joshua
International:
GGG
Sergey Kovalev
Pacman
Then:
UK:
Carl Froch
Lennox Lewis
Ricky Hatton
International:
Marvin Hagler
Ali
Tyson
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PredatorHayds
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Re: Then and now....
Maesteg boy?youngrell wrote:Now
Selby
Haye
Cleverly
GGG
Pacquiao
Kovalev
Then
Calzaghe
Benn
Jason Cook (from my home town)
JM Marquez
Cotto
Kessler
I'm from Outside Neath.
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Yup. Played football with Cookie for a few years.PredatorHayds wrote:Maesteg boy?youngrell wrote:Now
Selby
Haye
Cleverly
GGG
Pacquiao
Kovalev
Then
Calzaghe
Benn
Jason Cook (from my home town)
JM Marquez
Cotto
Kessler
I'm from Outside Neath.
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PredatorHayds
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Re: Then and now....
youngrell wrote:Yup. Played football with Cookie for a few years.PredatorHayds wrote:Maesteg boy?youngrell wrote:Now
Selby
Haye
Cleverly
GGG
Pacquiao
Kovalev
Then
Calzaghe
Benn
Jason Cook (from my home town)
JM Marquez
Cotto
Kessler
I'm from Outside Neath.
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Jackson328
- Middleweight
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Re: Then and now....
Then
Brit/Irish - Dave 'Boy' Green, Colin Jones, Nigel Benn
International - Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Julian Jackson
Now
Brit/Irish - Tyson Fury, Ricky Burns, James Degale
International - Terence Crawford, Roman Gonzales, Danny Garcia
Brit/Irish - Dave 'Boy' Green, Colin Jones, Nigel Benn
International - Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Julian Jackson
Now
Brit/Irish - Tyson Fury, Ricky Burns, James Degale
International - Terence Crawford, Roman Gonzales, Danny Garcia
Re: Then and now....
This threadTheGingerBomber wrote:Wait, is it favourites or who you think were/are the best? I think I've done it wrong!
I think Stuarty wants three lists:
Top 3 domestic
Top 3 overseas
Top3 ever
I’m out the loop with domestic goings on, to an extent...I will hazard a guess at:
Frampton, Khan, Degale
Mayweather, Lomachenko, and that little Cuban fellow....think his name might be Willy somebody (I’m only 60% sure that Floyd’s boxed his last one)
It’s actually quite hard this. I think that Selby kid from somewhere in Wales is very capable and highly rated - his last fight just fell through very recently. I hear that the Manchester fighter is good too....Terry Flanagan. I saw Flanagan live when he hammered Nate Campbell, but to be fair Nate Campbell did second least to everybody on the bill, barring Audley (against Wilder). That fight was a huge letdown, as on paper it looked really good and I expected Campbell to bring some game, but he brought nothing.
Also....I’ve noticed over the years that everybody good is generally regarded as “the business”.....until suddenly they become “one dimensional - flat footed - domestically built” after one or two losses.
Ever? Well......too difficult. I will merely name my 3 favourites and that’s Ali, Eubank and Michael Watson.
Re: Then and now....
youngrell wrote:Now
Selby
Haye
Cleverly
GGG
Pacquiao
Kovalev
Then
Calzaghe
Benn
Jason Cook (from my home town)
JM Marquez
Cotto
Kessler
Thought you’d written yourself a nice Welsh list there until I saw David Haye’s name
Do you rank Cleverly higher than Khan, Brook, Degale and Carl Frampton?
Frampton could turn out the pick of the bunch....he seems to have the strength, size and the ability to box and adapt. I think that him and Selby would be a brilliant fight.
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No I don't rate Clev better than those guys, just that I've supported him more. I like all 4 you mentioned, its just that the Welsh part has probably got me supporting Clev more. And for my sins, I've always liked Haye. Despite all his negative characteristics, I just can't bring myself to stop liking him.magwitch wrote:youngrell wrote:Now
Selby
Haye
Cleverly
GGG
Pacquiao
Kovalev
Then
Calzaghe
Benn
Jason Cook (from my home town)
JM Marquez
Cotto
Kessler
Thought you’d written yourself a nice Welsh list there until I saw David Haye’s name![]()
Do you rank Cleverly higher than Khan, Brook, Degale and Carl Frampton?
Frampton could turn out the pick of the bunch....he seems to have the strength, size and the ability to box and adapt. I think that him and Selby would be a brilliant fight.