Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

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Current Whyte would win against them all, especially at the time Wilder fought them, and the way AJ was dominating was far more impressing as Wilder his wins.

Joshua didn't fight current Whyte, he fought out of shape, "I train myself" Whyte. And what's Whyte done to make you think that? Knocking out someone faster than Tony Bellew? Out pointing someone an area level fighter? Retiring someone in round 10 that can barely go 4?

KOing 3 different guys out faster then Parker seemed more impressive. Somehow Whyte was indeed not 100% against AJ, but AJ already waited for several months before that fight. In the beginning they were planning the fight on 12 september 2015, but Whyte said he was injured and not ready for AJ, he could fight somehow. Now AJ waited and fought someone else, but wasn't planning to wait forever. Also note that AJ straight away said he wanted a rematch, probably because he felt embarrassed. AJ learned a lot from that fight, it was probably one of the best things that could happen to him at the time without losing too much face. Before Whyte everything went so easy he thought he was superman.

I never thought it was Joshua's fault for the shape WHyte turned up in, but him improving after that really doesn't make that win any more impressive.

Even beating guys faster than Parker is unimpressive considering all the stats.

Gerber beat Minto faster than Whyte or Parker.

Parker [7-0] aged 22 fought Marcelo Luiz Nascimento [17-5] aged 33
Whyte [12-0] aged 26 fought Marcelo Luiz Nascimento [19-7] aged 34

Parker [8 -0] aged 22 fought Brian Minto [39 7] aged 39
Whyte [15-0] aged 27 fought Brian Minto [41-9] aged 40

Parker [11-0] aged 22 fought Irineu Beato Costa Junior [15-1] aged 34
Whyte [14-0] aged 27 fought Irineu Beato Costa Junior [17-4] aged 34

[the_doctor]

IBO Title could be on the line too

[asdfjkl]

Joshua didn't fight current Whyte, he fought out of shape, "I train myself" Whyte. And what's Whyte done to make you think that? Knocking out someone faster than Tony Bellew? Out pointing someone an area level fighter? Retiring someone in round 10 that can barely go 4?

KOing 3 different guys out faster then Parker seemed more impressive. Somehow Whyte was indeed not 100% against AJ, but AJ already waited for several months before that fight. In the beginning they were planning the fight on 12 september 2015, but Whyte said he was injured and not ready for AJ, he could fight somehow. Now AJ waited and fought someone else, but wasn't planning to wait forever. Also note that AJ straight away said he wanted a rematch, probably because he felt embarrassed. AJ learned a lot from that fight, it was probably one of the best things that could happen to him at the time without losing too much face. Before Whyte everything went so easy he thought he was superman.

I never thought it was Joshua's fault for the shape WHyte turned up in, but him improving after that really doesn't make that win any more impressive.

Even beating guys faster than Parker is unimpressive considering all the stats.

Gerber beat Minto faster than Whyte or Parker.

Parker [7-0] aged 22 fought Marcelo Luiz Nascimento [17-5] aged 33
Whyte [12-0] aged 26 fought Marcelo Luiz Nascimento [19-7] aged 34

Parker [8 -0] aged 22 fought Brian Minto [39 7] aged 39
Whyte [15-0] aged 27 fought Brian Minto [41-9] aged 40

Parker [11-0] aged 22 fought Irineu Beato Costa Junior [15-1] aged 34
Whyte [14-0] aged 27 fought Irineu Beato Costa Junior [17-4] aged 34

Whyte challenged Joshua, saying all kind of stuff, even before september, but at the same time said he wasn't 100%, but just 50% because of his shoulder and prefered to fight later. He did fight Brian Minto somehow and won easely. In december that year Joshua offered him the fight again, but remember, it was Whyte who challenged Joshua and it was Joshua who didn't take Whyte seriously at the time, ofcourse Joshua wasn't planning to wait even longer, so Whyte pretty much had to accept the fight at that time. Ofcourse you can't blame Joshua, but at the same time Joshua can't accept the comments Whyte had at the time forever.
Also note that Whyte had a... I thought 2 year drugsban because he took substances that used to be allowed, but later weren't allowed any more while he didn't realise, if that wasn't the case Whyte would probably have been ranked way higher. I've actually said that I rated Whyte higher as Parker. Parker just has a little bit short reach, lack of power and stamina for the top 3, like Povetkin has a lack of reach, Wilder has a lack of skills, and Fury has a lack of power.

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Whyte challenged Joshua, saying all kind of stuff, even before september, but at the same time said he wasn't 100%, but just 50% because of his shoulder and prefered to fight later. He did fight Brian Minto somehow and won easely. In december that year Joshua offered him the fight again, but remember, it was Whyte who challenged Joshua and it was Joshua who didn't take Whyte seriously at the time, ofcourse Joshua wasn't planning to wait even longer, so Whyte pretty much had to accept the fight at that time. Ofcourse you can't blame Joshua, but at the same time Joshua can't accept the comments Whyte had at the time forever.

Em what?

I never said Joshua shouldn't have fought him, only any subsequent improvements don't make the win over who he fought that night more impressive.

Also note that Whyte had a... I thought 2 year drugsban because he took substances that used to be allowed, but later weren't allowed any more while he didn't realise, if that wasn't the case Whyte would probably have been ranked way higher.

He fought no one before the ban, his only boxrec ranked opponent had 64 losses. The rather harsh ban definitely hurt his career, which is a shame, and he'd maybe be in a better place without it careerwise, but again that doesn't change the man Joshua fought that night.

I've actually said that I rated Whyte higher as Parker. Parker just has a little bit short reach, lack of power and stamina for the top 3, like Povetkin has a lack of reach, Wilder has a lack of skills, and Fury has a lack of power.

So now you're saying that his feat, which I already made the point really is nothing special, is even less impressive.

You've actually made a far better case here for Joshua's resume being worse than Wilder's, than for Joshua's being better.

[davie]

It will be a bit like Joe Louis vs. Rocky Marciano.

Can i just say, I want to start pointing out the reasons why it'll be nothing like Marciano vs Louis but I'd be quicker pointing out the similarities

Both fighters have gloves on

THE END

[Mimmy]

I dont think we have seen the best of Joshua yet but have seen the best in Klitschko and age has to be a factor in this fight. The only issue I have in Joshua is that he is a bit robotic in the style of Frank Bruno and has not been tested yet. We still don't really know if AJ can take a decent shot to the chin and know what he is doing. I'm not sure if he will just stand there and get banged out like Bruno did on a few occasions.

I certainly think Joshua will go in there and mix it up and take the fight to Klitschko and it could certainly be who lands first.

I think AJ has youth on his side and has a bang. Even if AJ knocks Klit out in the first round people will still slag him off but I think we ar ein a new era of boxing and I think Aj has a decent chance of winning.

[zorndeslammes]

Wladimir might not be entertaining as a fighter, but he's got the willingness to face anyone. Joshua is outrageously dangerous to him, and yet here he is taking the fight. Meanwhile, Joshua wins and he's kinda the assumptive "true champion".

[Enlightened-One]

I quite like Eddie Hearn, at least his public persona, but my only concern is the fact that I’m beginning to see worrying trend whereby he keeps telling the public that a fight is very close to happening and makes promises about contracts being signed imminently, but then he proceeds to whinge and moan the opposing camps withdrawing from contract negotiations at the very last minute (à la Ward, Klitschko and Eubank Jr.).

These “blame shifting” tactics will eventually erode his credibility, especially considering he’s the one that regularly communicates contract negotiation updates through the media, when the opposing parties refrain from doing so.

[Like a Boss]

If the WBA title isn't part of the package, and Wlad walks away, step up Joseph Parker.

Parker is after all Joshua's mandatory and Joshua is meant to fight Parker by January 9th.

So f it isn't to be Klitschko, surely it has to be Parker.

[crusader]

If the WBA title isn't part of the package, and Wlad walks away, step up Joseph Parker.

Parker is after all Joshua's mandatory and Joshua is meant to fight Parker by January 9th.

So f it isn't to be Klitschko, surely it has to be Parker.

What about Parker going down the WBO route?

[Like a Boss]

If the WBA title isn't part of the package, and Wlad walks away, step up Joseph Parker.

Parker is after all Joshua's mandatory and Joshua is meant to fight Parker by January 9th.

So f it isn't to be Klitschko, surely it has to be Parker.

What about Parker going down the WBO route?

Just as Joshua vs Wlad hinges on the WBA title being available, Parker vs Ruiz hinges on the WBO title being available.

So both fights are equally rubbery at present.

[493dart]

I have to wonder if Joshua is the new Frank Bruno ?

Tough fight to call

[lazboy]

WTF is going on. Is this fight happening. If it doesn't happen I feel like i'm going to explode!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH......

[Rob3_142]

It's a very tricky one.

If Klitchko goes down the WBA route does that remove him from the WBO rankings? That would essentially leave Parker and Ruiz for the WBO crown. If Parker does go down the WBO route, does that remove him from the IBF rankings?

Either way, Joshua could well be in big trouble finding a decent opposition for 10th Dec. I like Parker, and the way his team operate, so I'm hoping they will keep their ambition to fight Joshua, but the WBO is the easier path to a world title.

A lot is going to hinge on what the governing bodies decide to do!

[Freedom2013]

12 reasons why Wladimir Klitschko wins

12 reasons why Anthony Joshua wins

[man]

about 40% of the voters are delusional.

[Rob3_142]

about 40% of the voters are delusional.

Which 40%?

[man]

about 40% of the voters are delusional.

Which 40%?

that was the point of my post.

[Rob3_142]

about 40% of the voters are delusional.

Which 40%?

that was the point of my post.

I see.

[Ilya Muromets]

Joshua is the most overated boxer in the HW division lol

Ranked 3rd on Box rec but he has only beaten fighters who havent beaten anyone .

Until Joshua beats a proven top 10 fighter he isn't even in the top 5 imo

I agree. Joshua has never even fought let alone beat a top ten fighter. The bookies have him a better than 2 - 1 favorite but I'd put it in the reverse. It all depends on the toll that age has taken on Wlad. If he still has it he wins easily.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

Wlad will do well to last the full 12 round's he will have his moment's even put Joshua on the canvas for a count but the younger man will prevail in a hard fought un dec.

[Freedom2013]

Tyson Fury: Klitschko will stop Joshua

[marvelous marv]

I think Wlad is gonna be up to the challenge. He won't make the mistake of not letting his hands go. I can see a scenario where Wlad wins in the eyes of the public but Hearn's fighter gets the decision. Strange decisions happen alot with Hearn involved.

[Tanzio]

Tyson Fury: Klitschko will stop Joshua

The king of blow mountain has spoken.

[Wales]

So many questions going into this fight

Can Joshua take a punch?
Can he do the distance?

How is Wlad at 41? And are we overlooking a clear decline in Wlad? 2 fights in 2 years, 1 uninspiring win against a pre-fight perceived no-hoper in Jennings, followed by a defeat against Tyson Fury - a 4/1 underdog and only 4% of posters picked him to win by pts...