Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September
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apollo creed
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Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September
Can't go wrong with any of the 4 as far as quality opponents and interesting matchmaking goes. Best chance of beating GGG would definitely be Zurdo Ramirez I think, but possibly Canelo. I've still only seen Ramirez fight once, but he impressed in that one performance to the point that I think he's the top guy at Super Middleweight. Nobody seems too eager to fight him.
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Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September
Not Jack or Degale but Ramirez as the top guy for beting Abraham?gilgamesh wrote:Can't go wrong with any of the 4 as far as quality opponents and interesting matchmaking goes. Best chance of beating GGG would definitely be Zurdo Ramirez I think, but possibly Canelo. I've still only seen Ramirez fight once, but he impressed in that one performance to the point that I think he's the top guy at Super Middleweight. Nobody seems too eager to fight him.
Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September
I believe Ramirez would beat Jack and Degale. Badou Jack has left the division now or I'd have him #1 as I thought he deserved the nod over Degale. Degale just always makes fights hard. He's obviously skilled, but I can't see a guy with his limitations as the #1 guy in a division with the talent Super Middleweight has. I'd like to see Degale vs Ramirez to settle it. Doesn't look like we'll be getting Degale vs Jack 2 anytime soon unfortunately.world ranked wrote:Not Jack or Degale but Ramirez as the top guy for beting Abraham?gilgamesh wrote:Can't go wrong with any of the 4 as far as quality opponents and interesting matchmaking goes. Best chance of beating GGG would definitely be Zurdo Ramirez I think, but possibly Canelo. I've still only seen Ramirez fight once, but he impressed in that one performance to the point that I think he's the top guy at Super Middleweight. Nobody seems too eager to fight him.
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Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September
Only based on you seeing him one time?gilgamesh wrote:I believe Ramirez would beat Jack and Degale. Badou Jack has left the division now or I'd have him #1 as I thought he deserved the nod over Degale.world ranked wrote:Not Jack or Degale but Ramirez as the top guy for beting Abraham?gilgamesh wrote:Can't go wrong with any of the 4 as far as quality opponents and interesting matchmaking goes. Best chance of beating GGG would definitely be Zurdo Ramirez I think, but possibly Canelo. I've still only seen Ramirez fight once, but he impressed in that one performance to the point that I think he's the top guy at Super Middleweight. Nobody seems too eager to fight him.
Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September
Yes. Sometimes seeing somebody one time tells me a lot about them.world ranked wrote:Only based on you seeing him one time?gilgamesh wrote:I believe Ramirez would beat Jack and Degale. Badou Jack has left the division now or I'd have him #1 as I thought he deserved the nod over Degale.world ranked wrote:
Not Jack or Degale but Ramirez as the top guy for beting Abraham?
The first time I ever saw Terence Crawford was against Breidis Prescott. Now obviously Prescott is no world beater exactly, but I could tell from the way Crawford handled him and the way he fought. Crawford is gonna be P4P #1 someday, and I think I said so online after seeing that fight. Crawford had nowhere near the kind of feats that should've lead to such a bold statement like that from me, but I know talent like that when I see it.
I'm not saying Ramirez is THAT talented, but I am quite confident that he'd be able to handle himself very well against the best the Super Middleweight division has to offer. Just give him the chance, and watch.
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apollo creed
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Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September
Ramirez is mexican and that would probably sell well. Also he expressed his will to fight GGG.
All are good fights for GGG. Most winnable fight for GGG is Saunders due of his $hitty physical shape. LOL
All are good fights for GGG. Most winnable fight for GGG is Saunders due of his $hitty physical shape. LOL
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Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September
Ramirez didn't look impressive against drained Vlasov, but still the rest of SMW is not that good too. Calum Smith may be above the rest, but he still needs to prove that.
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Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September
You know Ramirez is headline a ppv in a few weeks. I don't think he selling much.apollo creed wrote:Ramirez is mexican and that would probably sell well. Also he expressed his will to fight GGG.
All are good fights for GGG. Most winnable fight for GGG is Saunders due of his $hitty physical shape. LOL
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Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September
fair enough. You maybe right but doesn't have to proven first. Errol Spence looks to be the top welterweight but they actually have to prove it at some point before we crown them.gilgamesh wrote:Yes. Sometimes seeing somebody one time tells me a lot about them.world ranked wrote:Only based on you seeing him one time?gilgamesh wrote:
I believe Ramirez would beat Jack and Degale. Badou Jack has left the division now or I'd have him #1 as I thought he deserved the nod over Degale.
The first time I ever saw Terence Crawford was against Breidis Prescott. Now obviously Prescott is no world beater exactly, but I could tell from the way Crawford handled him and the way he fought. Crawford is gonna be P4P #1 someday, and I think I said so online after seeing that fight. Crawford had nowhere near the kind of feats that should've lead to such a bold statement like that from me, but I know talent like that when I see it.
I'm not saying Ramirez is THAT talented, but I am quite confident that he'd be able tto handle himself very well against the best the Super Middleweight division has to offer. Just give him the chance, and watch.
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Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September
Valdez is the main event.world ranked wrote:You know Ramirez is headline a ppv in a few weeks. I don't think he selling much.apollo creed wrote:Ramirez is mexican and that would probably sell well. Also he expressed his will to fight GGG.
All are good fights for GGG. Most winnable fight for GGG is Saunders due of his $hitty physical shape. LOL
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Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September
Even more of the point he can't even headline a small ppv like that.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Valdez is the main event.world ranked wrote:You know Ramirez is headline a ppv in a few weeks. I don't think he selling much.apollo creed wrote:Ramirez is mexican and that would probably sell well. Also he expressed his will to fight GGG.
All are good fights for GGG. Most winnable fight for GGG is Saunders due of his $hitty physical shape. LOL
Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September
boxing_rocks wrote:Ramirez didn't look impressive against drained Vlasov, but still the rest of SMW is not that good too. Calum Smith may be above the rest, but he still needs to prove that.
It's like saying someone didn't look good against Andre Ward or something. Of course, Vlasov goes right on to become a top cruiserweight. And no way he was drained, the fight was really close. Yeah, Ramirez was probably drained too because he's also gigantic at SMW.
I actually do think Ramirez would beat DeGale rather easily. DeGale barely squeaked by Porky Medina.