Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!

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Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!

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Ossyrules wrote:Ggg vs Canelo is the biggest fight. Money and boxing

Nobodies ignoring Ggg vs Jacobs as Jacobs has got heap of credit. It was close win, but the win weren't questionable for most

Saunders has the last piece of the puzzle, so yes making history is bigger than Jacobs

Accept it
Bro, if you still consider titles to be historic, then explain the history behind
Canelo winning a 154 pound title against Matthew Hatton, a 147 pound fighter who sucks,
who wasn't even regarded at 147, and never campaigned at 154 ... and many other situations just like it, cough, Wilder.

Titles are garbage. They are more about political maneuverings than actual greatness.
You shouldn't be discussing boxing on a forum in 2017 if you still think there is some prestige in titles.

Also, I watched GGG steamroll everyone for 5 years now.
Two judges gave Jacobs 5 rounds and one judge gave Jacobs 6 rounds.
If that's not reason for rematch, then what is?
Boxing fans hold every fighter to vastly different standards.
There was a call for Mayweather/Maidana II, and the fight wasn't even as close.
The desire to watch the fight was because we finally saw someone make Floyd work.

GGG KOs everyone and then wins by 1 round, and no one is interested in a rematch?
You care more about the bullshit WBO, so GGG can fight #1 contender Khurtsidze next. :lol:

Any real boxing fan clamoring for more "title" fights is an idiot.
Any real boxing fan who thinks a fight is more prestigious due to BS titles, is also an idiot.
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BAD INTENTIONS wrote: Any real boxing fan clamoring for more "title" fights is an idiot.
Any real boxing fan who thinks a fight is more prestigious due to BS titles, is also an idiot.
:lol: I wonder if the boxers agree with this assessment..
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greg wrote:
BAD INTENTIONS wrote: Any real boxing fan clamoring for more "title" fights is an idiot.
Any real boxing fan who thinks a fight is more prestigious due to BS titles, is also an idiot.
:lol: I wonder if the boxers agree with this assessment..
I don't get whats funny.
Boxers, except for like 6 of them, disagree with the entire system in boxing.

Of course, a fighter thinks a title is a goal, just like all pro-athletes say the championship is the goal.
But the system of boxing is so corrupt, it's just different.
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BAD INTENTIONS wrote:
greg wrote:
BAD INTENTIONS wrote: Any real boxing fan clamoring for more "title" fights is an idiot.
Any real boxing fan who thinks a fight is more prestigious due to BS titles, is also an idiot.
:lol: I wonder if the boxers agree with this assessment..
I don't get whats funny.
Boxers, except for like 6 of them, disagree with the entire system in boxing.

Of course, a fighter thinks a title is a goal, just like all pro-athletes say the championship is the goal.
But the system of boxing is so corrupt, it's just different.
I'm sure there's a difference between what you think about the titles and what the boxers do..I wouldn't go as far as calling anyone here an idiot..
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greg wrote:
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:
greg wrote: :lol: I wonder if the boxers agree with this assessment..
I don't get whats funny.
Boxers, except for like 6 of them, disagree with the entire system in boxing.

Of course, a fighter thinks a title is a goal, just like all pro-athletes say the championship is the goal.
But the system of boxing is so corrupt, it's just different.
I'm sure there's a difference between what you think about the titles and what the boxers do..I wouldn't go as far as calling anyone here an idiot..
Bro, if you really follow boxing,
and actually know about the sport,
you can't think titles are prestigious unless you are an idiot.
As of 2017, the evidence against the ABCs is overwhelming.

I didn't say any casual fan who rates titles are idiots. They probably don't know.

But if you claim to be a hardcore boxing fan,
and think titles matter, you are an idiot.

Also, fighters have been chasing this leather strap since childhood.
In order to see how fighter really feel about belts,
pay attention after they have money and no longer need to kiss ass for fights.

Remember, disrespect the system on the way up, AND YOU'RE DONE.
Don't mistake silence with compliance.
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You've gone mad.
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Eastern European boxers definitely care about belts.
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BAD INTENTIONS wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:Ggg vs Canelo is the biggest fight. Money and boxing

Nobodies ignoring Ggg vs Jacobs as Jacobs has got heap of credit. It was close win, but the win weren't questionable for most

Saunders has the last piece of the puzzle, so yes making history is bigger than Jacobs

Accept it
Bro, if you still consider titles to be historic, then explain the history behind
Canelo winning a 154 pound title against Matthew Hatton, a 147 pound fighter who sucks,
who wasn't even regarded at 147, and never campaigned at 154 ... and many other situations just like it, cough, Wilder.

Titles are garbage. They are more about political maneuverings than actual greatness.
You shouldn't be discussing boxing on a forum in 2017 if you still think there is some prestige in titles.

Also, I watched GGG steamroll everyone for 5 years now.
Two judges gave Jacobs 5 rounds and one judge gave Jacobs 6 rounds.
If that's not reason for rematch, then what is?
Boxing fans hold every fighter to vastly different standards.
There was a call for Mayweather/Maidana II, and the fight wasn't even as close.
The desire to watch the fight was because we finally saw someone make Floyd work.

GGG KOs everyone and then wins by 1 round, and no one is interested in a rematch?
You care more about the bullshit WBO, so GGG can fight #1 contender Khurtsidze next. :lol:

Any real boxing fan clamoring for more "title" fights is an idiot.
Any real boxing fan who thinks a fight is more prestigious due to BS titles, is also an idiot.
Come on bro don't sell yourself to be that dumb. You're smarter than this

Wbo last piece of the puzzle. On its own it's not worth so much, to hold all 4 is history, and good for the division to havev1 champ.

Jacobs is worthy of another shot, but he's behind Canelo and Saunders (only cos of the belt). After that he's good for another shot imo.

Come on bro if you can't see that you're an idiot, bro
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boxing_rocks wrote:Eastern European boxers definitely care about belts.
..I believe every boxer cares about it: it's your popularity, it gives you a chance to get bigger fights, it's your paycheck, your family well-being, etc..absurd to deny it..of course, there are very very few who can drop the belt and still enjoy the popularity..but that's more an exception to the rule..I don't see any reason to call anyone an idiot including boxing fans who can relate as to why the boxer needs a belt..
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greg wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:Eastern European boxers definitely care about belts.
..I believe every boxer cares about it: it's your popularity, it gives you a chance to get bigger fights, it's your paycheck, your family well-being, etc..absurd to deny it..of course, there are very very few who can drop the belt and still enjoy the popularity..but that's more an exception to the rule..I don't see any reason to call anyone an idiot including boxing fans who can relate as to why the boxer needs a belt..
True, but some care more and some not so much. I don't remember hearing about an Eastern Euro dropping a belt to avoid an opponent or a licencing fee.
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Ossyrules wrote: Come on bro don't sell yourself to be that dumb. You're smarter than this

Wbo last piece of the puzzle. On its own it's not worth so much, to hold all 4 is history, and good for the division to havev1 champ.

Jacobs is worthy of another shot, but he's behind Canelo and Saunders (only cos of the belt). After that he's good for another shot imo.

Come on bro if you can't see that you're an idiot, bro
That's the problem. You are willing to ignore 100% BS in order to satisfy tradition.
That will only continue the problems.

It's cherry-picking. Start a topic about ABCs and we'll all admit they are useless.
But then at the same time you are going to validate their existence.

If you want one champ, then get rid of these crooked ABCs.

Why continue the problem?
That make ZERO sense.
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BAD INTENTIONS wrote:
Ossyrules wrote: Come on bro don't sell yourself to be that dumb. You're smarter than this

Wbo last piece of the puzzle. On its own it's not worth so much, to hold all 4 is history, and good for the division to havev1 champ.

Jacobs is worthy of another shot, but he's behind Canelo and Saunders (only cos of the belt). After that he's good for another shot imo.

Come on bro if you can't see that you're an idiot, bro
That's the problem. You are willing to ignore 100% BS in order to satisfy tradition.
That will only continue the problems.

It's cherry-picking. Start a topic about ABCs and we'll all admit they are useless.
But then at the same time you are going to validate their existence.

If you want one champ, then get rid of these crooked ABCs.

Why continue the problem?
That make ZERO sense.
Fighting for a slice of 4 titles is different to fighting to have all titles
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Ossyrules wrote:Fighting for a slice of 4 titles is different to fighting to have all titles
But you still have to value them individually at some point ...
But you are still continuing the 4 belt system ...

Whatever. You make no sense. Let's just keep supporting a broken system.
GGG is the greatest middleweight ever.
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BAD INTENTIONS wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:Fighting for a slice of 4 titles is different to fighting to have all titles
But you still have to value them individually at some point ...
But you are still continuing the 4 belt system ...

Whatever. You make no sense. Let's just keep supporting a broken system.
GGG is the greatest middleweight ever.
It's pretty simple I don't know what you don't get

1 champion at the weight
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Ossyrules wrote:
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:Fighting for a slice of 4 titles is different to fighting to have all titles
But you still have to value them individually at some point ...
But you are still continuing the 4 belt system ...

Whatever. You make no sense. Let's just keep supporting a broken system.
GGG is the greatest middleweight ever.
It's pretty simple I don't know what you don't get

1 champion at the weight
So in your system, does the WBC, IBF, WBA and WBO ever lose prestige?

I don't know how knowledgeable you are about the sport,
but there could have been tons of 4 belt champs in the last 10 years alone.
Politics, network BS, promoter BS, and BULLSH!T rules from the organizations themselves stop it from happening.
So, under this system, you won't have one champ, because regardless of their skill,
they will very likely never be able to unify.

Also, after they unify, it's very difficult to keep up with all 4.
Then after you unify, the WBA will create another champion, bringing the total to 5.

I think you are making a very short-sighted point that doesn't matter,
and is one of the main problems.
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BAD INTENTIONS wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
BAD INTENTIONS wrote: But you still have to value them individually at some point ...
But you are still continuing the 4 belt system ...

Whatever. You make no sense. Let's just keep supporting a broken system.
GGG is the greatest middleweight ever.
It's pretty simple I don't know what you don't get

1 champion at the weight
So in your system, does the WBC, IBF, WBA and WBO ever lose prestige?

I don't know how knowledgeable you are about the sport,
but there could have been tons of 4 belt champs in the last 10 years alone.
Politics, network BS, promoter BS, and BULLSH!T rules from the organizations themselves stop it from happening.
So, under this system, you won't have one champ, because regardless of their skill,
they will very likely never be able to unify.

Also, after they unify, it's very difficult to keep up with all 4.
Then after you unify, the WBA will create another champion, bringing the total to 5.

I think you are making a very short-sighted point that doesn't matter,
and is one of the main problems.
There's hardly any that have held all 4, so if he does get all 4, it's an achievement. Whichever way you want to drum it up. None since Hopkins at the weight?

Whatever way you drum it up, 4 belts are recognised at world title belts. Ignoring it won't change it.

GGG wouldn't be an alphabet champ, he'd be relieving one. Unifying at every weight division should be encouraged by the fans. Just ignoring a belt won't change sh1t

The fights not even made I'm done arguing a hypothetical.
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Isn't Hopkins the only one to do it at any weight? Anyway, alphabet belts mean nothing to us, but it's a lifelong dream for the fighters and it makes them money.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Isn't Hopkins the only one to do it at any weight? Anyway, alphabet belts mean nothing to us, but it's a lifelong dream for the fighters and it makes them money.
If you can get all 4 titles without making money before, then you are some kind of anomaly.
Also, FALSE, titles don't bring any more money to fighters.

It's just something given to the top fighters.
Not really connected to money.
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BAD INTENTIONS wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Isn't Hopkins the only one to do it at any weight? Anyway, alphabet belts mean nothing to us, but it's a lifelong dream for the fighters and it makes them money.
If you can get all 4 titles without making money before, then you are some kind of anomaly.
Also, FALSE, titles don't bring any more money to fighters.

It's just something given to the top fighters.
Not really connected to money.
Belts absolutely bring money to the fighters. Take a deep breath, you're not this stupid. You think Selby/Barros is a $601,000 fight without a belt and a pursebid? Boxing is fucked up in America, if you would just say that without ratial overtures you wouldn't be such an asshole. Since my 'return' my posts are brief because boxing has gotten on my last nerve and I have tried to do some self improvement and not get caught up in stupid internet bullshit with the likes of you.
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BAD INTENTIONS wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Isn't Hopkins the only one to do it at any weight? Anyway, alphabet belts mean nothing to us, but it's a lifelong dream for the fighters and it makes them money.
If you can get all 4 titles without making money before, then you are some kind of anomaly.
Also, FALSE, titles don't bring any more money to fighters.

It's just something given to the top fighters.
Not really connected to money.
Belts do equal money, it's called promotion and marketing

Why the fornicate do you think we have wbc silver, wba normal, inter continental etc bull sh1t!

Come on geezer don't let bias sway you

We have 4 recognised belts. I'd rather one guy held them all for some clarity on who the champ is at that weight
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It's on Jacobs to keep winning and create the demand for the rematch. If Golovin beats Canelo and BJ easily the rematch will be very easily one of the biggest fights of the year.
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