No, canelo will still be the man. Ggg will be much bigger than Crawford could ever dream of being. Not to mention the prices went up again. Americans don't gaf about boxing. Doubt they ever will again.gilgamesh wrote:You think GGG becomes an attraction if he beats Canelo? Or would he still not be the star Canelo is? I kinda figure he's still not got the starpower of a Canelo, but if it's a great fight maybe they have a rematch and he at least gets that other Mega Payday out of the whole deal. I mean I'm sure GGG's starpower would rise off of beating Canelo, but I don't know how much further it could go really.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:300-400, don't remember exactly. Canelo is the man now. Nobody else.TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
What did he do for Bradley and Vargas?
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SaadOffTheDeck
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The problem with Crawford is he's a tremdous boxer but he doesnt really have a fan friendly style and he's black and cant pick up that latin fanbase. He's also quite a quiet guy versus Floyd who is very similar in both advantages and disadvantages to their styles and their race, etc, but made up for that by being very brash and got people paying in the hope they'd see him lose.
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As long as it's always around and has it's small cult following of fans enough to keep fights on TV and sh*t I'm good. I don't really give a damn if there's another PPV superstar or not. Good fighters in good fights. As long as that's happening the sport is doing just fine.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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He's quite fanfriendly, just hasn't anyone to push him.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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I don't care either, but ppv might be an even bigger part of the sport here in short order.gilgamesh wrote:As long as it's always around and has it's small cult following of fans enough to keep fights on TV and sh*t I'm good. I don't really give a damn if there's another PPV superstar or not. Good fighters in good fights. As long as that's happening the sport is doing just fine.
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Crawford is a hell of a lot more fun to watch than Mayweather ever was. Crawford might need to take a page out of Mayweather's playbook and start presenting himself like a Pro Wrestling style Heel in interviews or something.IT wrote:The problem with Crawford is he's a tremdous boxer but he doesnt really have a fan friendly style and he's black and cant pick up that latin fanbase. He's also quite a quiet guy versus Floyd who is very similar in both advantages and disadvantages to their styles and their race, etc, but made up for that by being very brash and got people paying in the hope they'd see him lose.
I'm sure half of the buys...at least half, for every Mayweather PPV were people paying to see him get his ass kicked.
Making the fans hate you can prove just as lucrative as making 'em love you.
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Why do you say that?SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I don't care either, but ppv might be an even bigger part of the sport here in short order.gilgamesh wrote:As long as it's always around and has it's small cult following of fans enough to keep fights on TV and sh*t I'm good. I don't really give a damn if there's another PPV superstar or not. Good fighters in good fights. As long as that's happening the sport is doing just fine.
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I dunno- I imagine he's pretty well known in Mexico where boxing is almost like religion and is probably somewhat known to mexican-americans who might not follow boxing themselves but has a loved one or a friend that does. Otherwise though, yeah I agree.gilgamesh wrote:Hell for that matter Canelo isn't a big name outside of Boxing circles. If you don't watch Boxing you know Canelo because he's in that Tecate commercial with Sylvester Stallone, and you probably are saying "Who the f*ck is that red headed guy standing next to Stallone?"IT wrote:Lemieux is hardly a huge name though. I'd argue that Golovkin is hardly a name outside of boxing circles either.gilgamesh wrote:
Because people had heard of Lemieux. Nobody except the super hardcore fans had any clue who the f*ck Viktor Postol was....Terence Crawford isn't a name outside of Boxing circles either.
Go ahead and ask any friends you know tomorrow who Terence Crawford is. Unless they watch Boxing, they have no clue who he is.
The guys that become big PPV stars, everybody knows them whether they watch the sport or not. Crawford isn't that guy. Probably never will be.
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True. Id say Crawford was more exciting that Floyd. That said though, Floyd in his early years around 20/21 was a lot more exciting, with more knockouts occuring in his fights.gilgamesh wrote:Crawford is a hell of a lot more fun to watch than Mayweather ever was. Crawford might need to take a page out of Mayweather's playbook and start presenting himself like a Pro Wrestling style Heel in interviews or something.IT wrote:The problem with Crawford is he's a tremdous boxer but he doesnt really have a fan friendly style and he's black and cant pick up that latin fanbase. He's also quite a quiet guy versus Floyd who is very similar in both advantages and disadvantages to their styles and their race, etc, but made up for that by being very brash and got people paying in the hope they'd see him lose.
I'm sure half of the buys...at least half, for every Mayweather PPV were people paying to see him get his ass kicked.
Making the fans hate you can prove just as lucrative as making 'em love you.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Because the fighters are overpaid to. Begin with. HBO is hacking their budget, pbc is floundering and failed to make a big hit on network TV. Guys need to fight, seems inevitable to me. Though arum is up to something, maybe someone new is tossing in their hat.gilgamesh wrote:Why do you say that?SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I don't care either, but ppv might be an even bigger part of the sport here in short order.gilgamesh wrote:As long as it's always around and has it's small cult following of fans enough to keep fights on TV and sh*t I'm good. I don't really give a damn if there's another PPV superstar or not. Good fighters in good fights. As long as that's happening the sport is doing just fine.
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Yeah he definitely had more exciting fights early in his career. Crawford's most exciting fights are still to come I figure.IT wrote:True. Id say Crawford was more exciting that Floyd. That said though, Floyd in his early years around 20/21 was a lot more exciting, with more knockouts occuring in his fights.gilgamesh wrote:Crawford is a hell of a lot more fun to watch than Mayweather ever was. Crawford might need to take a page out of Mayweather's playbook and start presenting himself like a Pro Wrestling style Heel in interviews or something.IT wrote:The problem with Crawford is he's a tremdous boxer but he doesnt really have a fan friendly style and he's black and cant pick up that latin fanbase. He's also quite a quiet guy versus Floyd who is very similar in both advantages and disadvantages to their styles and their race, etc, but made up for that by being very brash and got people paying in the hope they'd see him lose.
I'm sure half of the buys...at least half, for every Mayweather PPV were people paying to see him get his ass kicked.
Making the fans hate you can prove just as lucrative as making 'em love you.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Mexico doesn't have ppv.IT wrote:I dunno- I imagine he's pretty well known in Mexico where boxing is almost like religion and is probably somewhat known to mexican-americans who might not follow boxing themselves but has a loved one or a friend that does. Otherwise though, yeah I agree.gilgamesh wrote:Hell for that matter Canelo isn't a big name outside of Boxing circles. If you don't watch Boxing you know Canelo because he's in that Tecate commercial with Sylvester Stallone, and you probably are saying "Who the f*ck is that red headed guy standing next to Stallone?"IT wrote: Lemieux is hardly a huge name though. I'd argue that Golovkin is hardly a name outside of boxing circles either.
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Wont argue with thatgilgamesh wrote:Yeah he definitely had more exciting fights early in his career. Crawford's most exciting fights are still to come I figure.IT wrote:True. Id say Crawford was more exciting that Floyd. That said though, Floyd in his early years around 20/21 was a lot more exciting, with more knockouts occuring in his fights.gilgamesh wrote:
Crawford is a hell of a lot more fun to watch than Mayweather ever was. Crawford might need to take a page out of Mayweather's playbook and start presenting himself like a Pro Wrestling style Heel in interviews or something.
I'm sure half of the buys...at least half, for every Mayweather PPV were people paying to see him get his ass kicked.
Making the fans hate you can prove just as lucrative as making 'em love you.
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Some of Floyd's earlier fights were great. He could be very destructive, Gatti and Corrales were good fights that showed Floyd could hurt people at the lower weights.
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In the case of Gatti he just couldn't miss him. He hit Gatti with damn near everything he threw.TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Some of Floyd's earlier fights were great. He could be very destructive, Gatti and Corrales were good fights that showed Floyd could hurt people at the lower weights.
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I was just referring to how well known he is in a general sense outside of boxing fans. I imagine he's very well known in Mexico although the lack of PPV will obviously help with that.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Mexico doesn't have ppv.IT wrote:I dunno- I imagine he's pretty well known in Mexico where boxing is almost like religion and is probably somewhat known to mexican-americans who might not follow boxing themselves but has a loved one or a friend that does. Otherwise though, yeah I agree.gilgamesh wrote:
Hell for that matter Canelo isn't a big name outside of Boxing circles. If you don't watch Boxing you know Canelo because he's in that Tecate commercial with Sylvester Stallone, and you probably are saying "Who the f*ck is that red headed guy standing next to Stallone?"
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His reflexes were insane back then. I remember his fight with that tall south african (whose name i cant recollect) - his single right hand counters to any attempted jab were just insanely quick.TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Some of Floyd's earlier fights were great. He could be very destructive, Gatti and Corrales were good fights that showed Floyd could hurt people at the lower weights.
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I'm talking about an EVENT type atmosphere everytime they fight! There is nobody right now Ray Leonard it was an EVENT, Tyson definitely an
EVENT, then it was Oscar! Then Floyd tookover! Who right now has that same potential? I don't see anybody! HELP!

EVENT, then it was Oscar! Then Floyd tookover! Who right now has that same potential? I don't see anybody! HELP!
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I'm excluding Canelo because the blacks havn't accepted him the same way they did Oscar De La Hoya. Only latinos primarily watch Canelo. I
remember the sports bars back in the early 2000s OSCAR had those joints packed! Latinos, blacks, whites, etc.. Oscar was a really crossover
superstar,
remember the sports bars back in the early 2000s OSCAR had those joints packed! Latinos, blacks, whites, etc.. Oscar was a really crossover
superstar,
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tiny_acres
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I fixed your post. You're welcomebnovelist wrote:I'm excluding Canelo because the blacks havn't accepted him the same way they did Oscar De La Hoya. Only latinos primarily watch Canelo. I
remember the sports bars back in the early 2000s OSCAR had those joints packed! Latinos, blacks, whites, etc.. Oscar was a really A CROSSDRESSER
superstar,
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Mike tyson
Oscar de la hoya
Floyd mayweather
Manny pacquiao
Now anthony joshua, canelo and GGG have what it takes to become ppv giants. Imagine golovkin vs canelo is competetive and they generate 2 million ppv buys and make a triology because the first fight was foty material. Than both would be huge ppv superstars.
Oscar de la hoya
Floyd mayweather
Manny pacquiao
Now anthony joshua, canelo and GGG have what it takes to become ppv giants. Imagine golovkin vs canelo is competetive and they generate 2 million ppv buys and make a triology because the first fight was foty material. Than both would be huge ppv superstars.
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He made floyd mayweather. Without the ppv mega event oscar de la hoya vs floyd mayweather, there would be no floyd the ppv superstar!bnovelist wrote:I'm excluding Canelo because the blacks havn't accepted him the same way they did Oscar De La Hoya. Only latinos primarily watch Canelo. I
remember the sports bars back in the early 2000s OSCAR had those joints packed! Latinos, blacks, whites, etc.. Oscar was a really crossover
superstar,
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I think Mikey Garcia could potentially become a star but he has to start fighting more often. He checks off all the boxes, he's Latino, speaks fluent English, has personality and has decent looks.
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suffolkbull3
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Although there may not be a PPV king atm, There are sooo many really good fighters and these really good fighters are actually fighting each other. 2017 has been absolutely GREAT so far and guess what, we have been getting most of the fights for FREE and not having to pay $70 bucks for a ppv. Maybe its a GREAT thing that there is no PPV king in sight. I would much rather see the quality of boxing we have seen so far this year for free, rather than pay $70 to watch a boring ass 12 round mayweather snoozefest thats for DAMN sure!!! Ill take boxing the way it is right now over boxing with a million mostly boring ppv fights. Thats the way i see it at least.
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I'm going to admit it. I love the PPV King atmosphere it brings to daily living. You're able to strike up conversations about the upcoming fight with
practically anybody! They even talk about the fight in church mass
I love being able to chat anywhere with the casual fan its fun. The local
running trail, the grocery store, the gym, etc.. When I tell you that I love having a PPV King I really do mean it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f1h0yFzigc
practically anybody! They even talk about the fight in church mass
running trail, the grocery store, the gym, etc.. When I tell you that I love having a PPV King I really do mean it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f1h0yFzigc