Alexander Povetkin vs Andriy Rudenko Finalized For July 1

Who wins?

Poll ended at 29 May 2017, 15:31

Povetkin
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Rudenko
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Total votes: 24

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Re: Alexander Povetkin vs Andriy Rudenko Finalized For July 1

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It's not logical because it's not possible to disagree with something if you don't know what it is. Not if you're the reasonable, rational, intelligent person I like to believe you to be.

I've always been an optimist :D
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Povetkin vs. Rudenko on Box-Nation

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Box-Nation will broadcast the fight exclusively live from the Russia Central Concert Hall in Moscow from 8pm on Saturday July 1st.
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Re: Alexander Povetkin vs Andriy Rudenko Finalized For July 1

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gilgamesh wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Povetkin is irrelevant. He has himself to thank for that.
Povetkin is absolutely relevant, but even if you think he isn't, explain to me how he's responseble for it?
He took the drugs that were banned. Nobody put a gun to his head and made him take them. I kinda liked Povetkin, and wanted nothing more than to see him knock out Wilder, then that fight fell through because of his bullsh*t, I got no more time for him and I don't give a sh*t if I ever see him fight again.

He was a chickensh*t who ducked Wlad for years before finally fighting him and losing every round, and now he's ensured that he'll only leave a legacy as being a forgettable middle of the road contender. He'll never do anything that matters in the sport again because nobody that matters is gonna go to Russia to fight his drug cheat ass.

And for the record. I have very little doubt that several fighters aside from Povetkin do it and don't get caught, and all I got to say to that is, he should've learned not to get caught like those guys.
He didn't try not to get caught... He didn't cheat in the 1st place... He didn't NEED to beat the system... The foxes are running the hen house and screwed him

mesh do you ever think before you post???? ... He never TOOK any drugs that were banned... Both the WBC with the support of VADA reinstated Povetkin as #1 contender because they didn't have a choice... WADA was able to confirm Povetkin passed every test... VADA said they were wrong and he DIDN'T fail any test for Wilder... Then for the Stiverne fight they let Stiverne slide for a positive PED test... Povetkin was okay with it.. "Let's just fight" Then within 24 hours of the fight VADA flags Povetkin for having a 10th of a nanogram of Ostarine in 1 of many samples.. An amount so small it can only get there through contamination.. People aren't using their heads on this.

Funny, but Ostarine is a drug that has been banned for 8 or 9 years and just now they coming up with a flurry of positive tests for it all of a sudden??? ... It just happens to be an Aussie, a Canadian, and a Russian who all denied even hearing about the drug and swear they never took it...
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Re: Alexander Povetkin vs Andriy Rudenko Finalized For July 1

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He passed a VADA test.. will be tested again after the fight..
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Re: Alexander Povetkin vs Andriy Rudenko Finalized For July 1

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candyslim wrote:It's not logical because it's not possible to disagree with something if you don't know what it is. Not if you're the reasonable, rational, intelligent person I like to believe you to be.

I've always been an optimist :D
:roll:
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Re: Alexander Povetkin vs Andriy Rudenko Finalized For July 1

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Ruthless-RKO wrote:He passed a VADA test.. will be tested again after the fight..
When you know when you are going to be tested it makes it quite easy to be able to pass the test.
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Re: Alexander Povetkin vs Andriy Rudenko Finalized For July 1

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A lot have failed those -- Including Roy Jones, Antonio Tarver, Andre Berto, James Toney, Fernando Vargas, Erik Morales, and Floyd Mayweather was given 3 "inadvertent usage" exceptions... So it seems it's been quite difficult for North Americans to pass those easily passed tests.
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Kalan wrote:A lot have failed those -- Including Roy Jones, Antonio Tarver, Andre Berto, James Toney, Fernando Vargas, Erik Morales, and Floyd Mayweather was given 3 "inadvertent usage" exceptions... So it seems it's been quite difficult for North Americans to pass those easily passed tests.
Your eyes must definitely be brown from being so full of shhit.
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Re: Alexander Povetkin vs Andriy Rudenko Finalized For July 1

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No... You're a stupid liar brown eyes... That statement is 100% true... All those guys got flagged for PEDs and Mayweather for illegal intravenous infusion.
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And don't forget Mayweather had a theoretically impossible testosterone-to-epitestosterone-ratio of under 1 on several occasions, but the Americans simply refused further testing (normally they do additional tests after this happens, to see if he added both testosteron, as well as epitestosteron, to cover the ratio up again).
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Re: Alexander Povetkin vs Andriy Rudenko Finalized For July 1

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I wouldn't ask anyone to reach a verdict on this issue because none of us have all the facts. I would expect you to keep an open mind though because there are some things here which don't ring true. Maybe Povetkin is a drug cheat, maybe he is but was innocent on this occasion, maybe he is no longer a cheat or maybe he never was.

Granted not all of these four possibilities seem equally probable, but just accept there is room for doubt here and resolve not to let the WBC treat you like a sheep with particularly poor eyesight because, and I know this could come as a bit of a shock, the WBC are not primarily concerned with the pursuit of truth and justice.
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Re: Alexander Povetkin vs Andriy Rudenko Finalized For July 1

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I guess I wasn't aware of Mayweather's 3 different inadvertent usage allowances, or his several testosterone violations. I have heard he had tested dirty on 3 separate occasions too. I am guessing most if not all of the allegations against Mayweather come from jealosy and hatred, and were pulled out of someone's ass. Carry on though if it makes you feel better.

Lets not forget that none of the random testing would even exist today if not for Mayweather demanding it, and requiring it for his fights in the last several years.
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Badhusker wrote:I guess I wasn't aware of Mayweather's 3 different inadvertent usage allowances, or his several testosterone violations. I have heard he had tested dirty on 3 separate occasions too. I am guessing most if not all of the allegations against Mayweather come from jealosy and hatred, and were pulled out of someone's ass. Carry on though if it makes you feel better.

Lets not forget that none of the random testing would even exist today if not for Mayweather demanding it, and requiring it for his fights in the last several years.
..if this doesn't exonerate him from any wrongdoing, I don't know what does.. ;-) seriously though, once the lawyers on both sides get involved, don't expect any truth will come out any time soon, if at all..
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Didn't Mayweather create his own schedule of when he was going to be tested himself?

Either way:
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Under 1 is naturally impossible, he most likely added a pile of epitestosteron to his own body, to make the testosteron level look normal again, but putted in a bit too much.
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WBO sanctions Povetkin vs. Rudenko

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The WBO Intercontinental belt will be on the line on July 1 when former heavyweight champion Alexander Povetkin returns against Ukrainian Andrey Rudenko at the “Russia” (Luzhniki) Concert Hall in Moscow.

The 33-year-old Rudenko is rated WBO #9, WBC #13 and IBF #13.

Povetkin is currently under indefinite suspension by the WBC for failing a doping test.
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Re: Alexander Povetkin vs Andriy Rudenko Finalized For July 1

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greg wrote:
Badhusker wrote:I guess I wasn't aware of Mayweather's 3 different inadvertent usage allowances, or his several testosterone violations. I have heard he had tested dirty on 3 separate occasions too. I am guessing most if not all of the allegations against Mayweather come from jealosy and hatred, and were pulled out of someone's ass. Carry on though if it makes you feel better.

Lets not forget that none of the random testing would even exist today if not for Mayweather demanding it, and requiring it for his fights in the last several years.
..if this doesn't exonerate him from any wrongdoing, I don't know what does.. ;-) seriously though, once the lawyers on both sides get involved, don't expect any truth will come out any time soon, if at all..
Lol, Manny deserves more credit for his obvious PED use.
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asdfjkl wrote:Under 1 is naturally impossible, he most likely added a pile of epitestosteron to his own body, to make the testosteron level look normal again, but putted in a bit too much.
No, T/E ratios less than 1:1 are not naturally impossible.
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Re: WBO sanctions Povetkin vs. Rudenko

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Ruthless-RKO wrote:The WBO Intercontinental belt will be on the line on July 1 when former heavyweight champion Alexander Povetkin returns against Ukrainian Andrey Rudenko at the “Russia” (Luzhniki) Concert Hall in Moscow.

The 33-year-old Rudenko is rated WBO #9, WBC #13 and IBF #13.

Povetkin is currently under indefinite suspension by the WBC for failing a doping test.
Kinda sucks for all the "Povetkin is irrelevant" guys :lol:
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Re: Alexander Povetkin vs Andriy Rudenko Finalized For July 1

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So will people just keep trying to ignore Povetkin and leave him unranked if he wins the WBO title?

He should probably be moving fast by the way. On the post-Wlad form he showed he'd destroy Rudenko and probably beat up Parker, but at his age things can go downhill fast.
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Re: WBO sanctions Povetkin vs. Rudenko

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punchoutsb wrote:
Ruthless-RKO wrote:The WBO Intercontinental belt will be on the line on July 1 when former heavyweight champion Alexander Povetkin returns against Ukrainian Andrey Rudenko at the “Russia” (Luzhniki) Concert Hall in Moscow.

The 33-year-old Rudenko is rated WBO #9, WBC #13 and IBF #13.

Povetkin is currently under indefinite suspension by the WBC for failing a doping test.
Kinda sucks for all the "Povetkin is irrelevant" guys :lol:
Consider me corrected, I never thought he'd get the prestigious WBO international belt this quickly.
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crusader wrote:So will people just keep trying to ignore Povetkin and leave him unranked if he wins the WBO title?

He should probably be moving fast by the way. On the post-Wlad form he showed he'd destroy Rudenko and probably beat up Parker, but at his age things can go downhill fast.
If he has to pass drug tests he's a rollercoaster.
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Re: Alexander Povetkin vs Andriy Rudenko Finalized For July 1

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punchoutsb wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:Under 1 is naturally impossible, he most likely added a pile of epitestosteron to his own body, to make the testosteron level look normal again, but putted in a bit too much.
No, T/E ratios less than 1:1 are not naturally impossible.
This guy is amazing, 1:1 is normal/average.
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Re: WBO sanctions Povetkin vs. Rudenko

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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
Ruthless-RKO wrote:The WBO Intercontinental belt will be on the line on July 1 when former heavyweight champion Alexander Povetkin returns against Ukrainian Andrey Rudenko at the “Russia” (Luzhniki) Concert Hall in Moscow.

The 33-year-old Rudenko is rated WBO #9, WBC #13 and IBF #13.

Povetkin is currently under indefinite suspension by the WBC for failing a doping test.
Kinda sucks for all the "Povetkin is irrelevant" guys :lol:
Consider me corrected, I never thought he'd get the prestigious WBO international belt this quickly.
Wasn't the crux of the argument that he wouldn't be rated by any organizations so he'd be stuck in Russia fighting without hopes of getting a title shot? He'll be next in line for Joseph Parker come July.
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Re: WBO sanctions Povetkin vs. Rudenko

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punchoutsb wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
Kinda sucks for all the "Povetkin is irrelevant" guys :lol:
Consider me corrected, I never thought he'd get the prestigious WBO international belt this quickly.
Wasn't the crux of the argument that he wouldn't be rated by any organizations so he'd be stuck in Russia fighting without hopes of getting a title shot? He'll be next in line for Joseph Parker come July.
My thoughts were he'll never be relevant again. If the WBO international is an eliminator for a Parker fight than I'm wrong. I don't think it is.
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Re: WBO sanctions Povetkin vs. Rudenko

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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Consider me corrected, I never thought he'd get the prestigious WBO international belt this quickly.
Wasn't the crux of the argument that he wouldn't be rated by any organizations so he'd be stuck in Russia fighting without hopes of getting a title shot? He'll be next in line for Joseph Parker come July.
My thoughts were he'll never be relevant again. If the WBO international is an eliminator for a Parker fight than I'm wrong. I don't think it is.
The Inter-Continental is the WBO's "second" world title. Fury/Kasi was for this belt and Fury secured a mandatory position because of it. Can you think of another reason for the WBO to strip the title from Tom Schwarz if they're not planning on using it as a springboard to get Povetkin/Parker made?
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