Rob3_142 wrote:Thought it was a very good stoppage. Had it gone on any longer, there could well have been a Wilder style KO. That being said, Szpilka shows almost zero ring intelligence. Stood there with his arms out saying 'hit me' which Kownacki duly obliged.
asdfjkl wrote:Babyface didn't impress me at all somehow during his fight, I still consider him far worser as Takam for example.
I think you underestimate that performance, or Kownacki's as a fighter. He has a very high punch volume and has very impressive accuracy. Granted he needs to work on his footwork, and his defence is next to non-existent, but he commands the centre of the ring and is a front foot fighter who'll put it on his opposition. He'll get relatively easily beaten by a top 10 fighter, but granted it'll be entertaining. Wouldn't mind seeing him in with Breazeale!
Well deserved win, and will be looking out for his next fight.
Exactly!
I've seen his last three fights and am impressed as an up and coming HW
When I first saw him he looked so unlikely as anything more than a shovel leaner on a roading crew.
The dude is so un sporty looking and moves like he is half drunk. I really can't describe it.
All that aside, he has a really good engine despite how he looks physically. His hand speed and accuracy are good as well. And he has power to some degree. His list of opponents thus far can't indicate his chin, something that might get tested in the future..
Definitely a guy to look out for.
RandomUsername wrote:I dont remember when it was but Lennox Lewis himself said it: There's something very right about Szpilka and there most certainly is, even yesterday that was evident, those things being perfect balance, veteran skills and great footwork. This was years ago however and now all there's left is just a fighter that there's something very very wrong with. When I watched the Jennings fight it looked to me like Szpilka was really the better fighter just with the wrong gameplan. I also think that Szpilka could very well have beaten Wilder but that ship sailed. It looks to me like Szpilka now has serious physical and even mental problems. I hope that he can get his affairs in order, there's no need to compile a XX-30 record, Szpilka should retire and try to enjoy life.
Szpilka is just athletic, nothing more. Jennings is more rigid but has the better learned skills despite less experience.
KiwiRider wrote:His hand speed and accuracy are good as well. And he has power to some degree ... Definitely a guy to look out for.
Oh boy... This cat is going nowhere in today's Heavyweight Division. Tom Schwarz and Otto Wallin are even better.
That may be. But have you seen him fight?
He looks like a bloke at 4 am half cut staggering about trying to find the Kebab shop. And yet he wins fights.. I've not seen anything like it. Add to that he has this dopey arsed grin on his mug like an over medicated outpatient.
KiwiRider wrote:His hand speed and accuracy are good as well. And he has power to some degree ... Definitely a guy to look out for.
Oh boy... This cat is going nowhere in today's Heavyweight Division. Tom Schwarz and Otto Wallin are even better.
That may be. But have you seen him fight?
He looks like a bloke at 4 am half cut staggering about trying to find the Kebab shop. And yet he wins fights.. I've not seen anything like it. Add to that he has this dopey arsed grin on his mug like an over medicated outpatient.
I've seen Jun Long Zhang, he looks like an idiot, but as soon as he bangs his 200+pound opponents literally fly 2 or 3 meters behind.
Kalan wrote:
Oh boy... This cat is going nowhere in today's Heavyweight Division. Tom Schwarz and Otto Wallin are even better.
That may be. But have you seen him fight?
He looks like a bloke at 4 am half cut staggering about trying to find the Kebab shop. And yet he wins fights.. I've not seen anything like it. Add to that he has this dopey arsed grin on his mug like an over medicated outpatient.
I've seen Jun Long Zhang, he looks like an idiot, but as soon as he bangs his 200+pound opponents literally fly 2 or 3 meters behind.
Oh yeah, got my eye on Zhang too. I think a fast hand, fast moving HW would get the better of him, but the one fight of his I did see was impressive. I don't know if it was microphone placement or what, but when he landed it sounded like a shotgun blast.
Apart from AJ and Parker, most of the top ten guys are getting on, so I'm keen to see younger guys (at least under 30) comming through. Zhang looked familiar when I first saw him, but then I had just seen a documentary about Easter Island.
KiwiRider wrote:
That may be. But have you seen him fight?
He looks like a bloke at 4 am half cut staggering about trying to find the Kebab shop. And yet he wins fights.. I've not seen anything like it. Add to that he has this dopey arsed grin on his mug like an over medicated outpatient.
I've seen Jun Long Zhang, he looks like an idiot, but as soon as he bangs his 200+pound opponents literally fly 2 or 3 meters behind.
Oh yeah, got my eye on Zhang too. I think a fast hand, fast moving HW would get the better of him, but the one fight of his I did see was impressive. I don't know if it was microphone placement or what, but when he landed it sounded like a shotgun blast.
Apart from AJ and Parker, most of the top ten guys are getting on, so I'm keen to see younger guys (at least under 30) comming through. Zhang looked familiar when I first saw him, but then I had just seen a documentary about Easter Island.
Thanks for posting those. The second opponent looked a little soft.
Isn't it a shame Evander lost his money and has to pimp himself out to these things. And it was not really his fault. I loved Holyfield and he deserves a nice retirement instead of being a casino greeter or token westerner
Plus they're 2013 and 2014. I'm assuming one of the contributing factors to why he hasn't fought anyone of note is because he won't fight out of China?
He's 35 now, he better make a move soon if he's going to have any impact on the HW scene. Otherwise we'll have another Ortiz on our hands!
KiwiRider wrote:Oh yeah, got my eye on Zhang too. I think a fast hand, fast moving HW would get the better of him, but the one fight of his I did see was impressive. I don't know if it was microphone placement or what, but when he landed it sounded like a shotgun blast.
Apart from AJ and Parker, most of the top ten guys are getting on, so I'm keen to see younger guys (at least under 30) comming through. Zhang looked familiar when I first saw him, but then I had just seen a documentary about Easter Island.
Daniel Dubois and Lawrence Okolie are ones to watch here in the UK. Okolie currently cruiserweight, but easily has the frame for heavy.
KiwiRider wrote:Oh yeah, got my eye on Zhang too. I think a fast hand, fast moving HW would get the better of him, but the one fight of his I did see was impressive. I don't know if it was microphone placement or what, but when he landed it sounded like a shotgun blast.
Apart from AJ and Parker, most of the top ten guys are getting on, so I'm keen to see younger guys (at least under 30) comming through. Zhang looked familiar when I first saw him, but then I had just seen a documentary about Easter Island.
Daniel Dubois and Lawrence Okolie are ones to watch here in the UK. Okolie currently cruiserweight, but easily has the frame for heavy.
OK, will do.
People were hyping this Rino bloke. Then the first time I got to see him this old Jamacian geeza beat him handily.
What I get to see on Sky is fairly random sometimes. But varied for sure. Big UK and American fights, the odd Russian or German and Aussie fights and some from Asia. It can be pretty random sometimes but interesting.
asdfjkl wrote:Szpilka just had his comebackfight against another Polish boxer (who lives in the USA) called "Babyface" Adam Kownacki and lost his match in 4 rounds.
Adam Kownacki is now ranked above Breazeale, Andy Ruiz jr, Duhaupas and Molina for example in boxrec.
Babyface didn't impress me at all somehow during his fight, I still consider him far worser as Takam for example.
It shows once more that the heavyweight division is so inactive, that wins against avarage opposition could bring you in a high ranked spot in no time.
I must say with that, that it seems to me like a tiny bit of an early stoppage, despite Szpilka lost all rounds before the knock down and the stoppage.
You don't know anything about this sport dude if you weren't impressed with Babyface's KO over Szpilka. Even worse than that was the fact that you didn't think that was a good stoppage. You should probably go watch another sport because your boxing IQ is shat.
KiwiRider wrote:Oh yeah, got my eye on Zhang too. I think a fast hand, fast moving HW would get the better of him, but the one fight of his I did see was impressive. I don't know if it was microphone placement or what, but when he landed it sounded like a shotgun blast.
Apart from AJ and Parker, most of the top ten guys are getting on, so I'm keen to see younger guys (at least under 30) comming through. Zhang looked familiar when I first saw him, but then I had just seen a documentary about Easter Island.
Daniel Dubois and Lawrence Okolie are ones to watch here in the UK. Okolie currently cruiserweight, but easily has the frame for heavy.
OK, will do.
People were hyping this Rino bloke. Then the first time I got to see him this old Jamacian geeza beat him handily.
What I get to see on Sky is fairly random sometimes. But varied for sure. Big UK and American fights, the odd Russian or German and Aussie fights and some from Asia. It can be pretty random sometimes but interesting.
Dave Allen? Nobody has ever hyped Dave Allen, have they? I can't remember him ever looking good. He's probably the most likeable boxer, as a bloke, in the UK at least, and so he has a cult following because he's a good lad. He's never looked like a good boxer he just has a ton of goodwill over here because he's a nice fella.
asdfjkl wrote:Szpilka just had his comebackfight against another Polish boxer (who lives in the USA) called "Babyface" Adam Kownacki and lost his match in 4 rounds.
Adam Kownacki is now ranked above Breazeale, Andy Ruiz jr, Duhaupas and Molina for example in boxrec.
Babyface didn't impress me at all somehow during his fight, I still consider him far worser as Takam for example.
It shows once more that the heavyweight division is so inactive, that wins against avarage opposition could bring you in a high ranked spot in no time.
I must say with that, that it seems to me like a tiny bit of an early stoppage, despite Szpilka lost all rounds before the knock down and the stoppage.
You don't know anything about this sport dude if you weren't impressed with Babyface's KO over Szpilka. Even worse than that was the fact that you didn't think that was a good stoppage. You should probably go watch another sport because your boxing IQ is shat.
I wasn't impressed by him as in, I don't expect him to beat AJ, Wlad, or Fury. And I wouldn't have let it last much longer, but I would have let it go a bit longer. Also, as long as you don't join PTBF, you could just as good tell the wall it doesn't know anything about boxing. At the moment I clearly understand what's going on a lot better as you do.
gilgamesh wrote:Wilder was losing to Szpilka and took 9 rounds to knock him out
Adam Kownacki was fat and out of shape...knocked him out in 4.
Wilder was losing to Szpilka..
Also Kownacki doesn't know what it feels like to lose..
Neither does Wilder...yet.
Kownacki and Wilder will both find out what it feels like though.
Wilder has resume problems, for sure, but how many of you would wager any money that Kownacki would beat Wilderi? If there are any takers if they fight, let me know. If you are dumb enough to think Kownacki would beat Wilder because of his better performance with a common opponent, hopefully you will be dumb enough to bet on him against Wilder, or any top 5 guy for that matter.
KiwiRider wrote:Oh yeah, got my eye on Zhang too. I think a fast hand, fast moving HW would get the better of him, but the one fight of his I did see was impressive. I don't know if it was microphone placement or what, but when he landed it sounded like a shotgun blast.
Apart from AJ and Parker, most of the top ten guys are getting on, so I'm keen to see younger guys (at least under 30) comming through. Zhang looked familiar when I first saw him, but then I had just seen a documentary about Easter Island.
Daniel Dubois and Lawrence Okolie are ones to watch here in the UK. Okolie currently cruiserweight, but easily has the frame for heavy.
OK, will do.
People were hyping this Rino bloke. Then the first time I got to see him this old Jamacian geeza beat him handily.
What I get to see on Sky is fairly random sometimes. But varied for sure. Big UK and American fights, the odd Russian or German and Aussie fights and some from Asia. It can be pretty random sometimes but interesting.
Oh goodness, Dave Allen is nothing more than British level. As clopixolacuphase has already mentioned, very likeable character but a limited fighter.
Another name, Nathan Gorman. Doesn't have the physique of an AJ or Dubois, but he's a talented boxer. Definitely could be European level. Been watching his development with some interest. Takes on undefeated Nick Webb for the British title in October.
Ruthless-RKO wrote:
Wilder was losing to Szpilka..
Also Kownacki doesn't know what it feels like to lose..
Neither does Wilder...yet.
Kownacki and Wilder will both find out what it feels like though.
Wilder has resume problems, for sure, but how many of you would wager any money that Kownacki would beat Wilderi? If there are any takers if they fight, let me know. If you are dumb enough to think Kownacki would beat Wilder because of his better performance with a common opponent, hopefully you will be dumb enough to bet on him against Wilder, or any top 5 guy for that matter.
I think it's a 60 40 fight, with Wilder indeed having the odds. I think Povetkin would be the perfect opponent, or Jun Long Zhang, or Ortiz, that would also be awesome.
Tony1244 wrote:As I said Adam is limited but I think only 3-4 HWs could KO Adam: Wlad, Wilder, Ortiz, and Joshua.
Kownacki should fight someone like Breazeale, Andy Ruiz or Helenius. Those would be interesting competitive matchups IMO.
He should probably fight his eating habits too
it was his first really professional training camp (he trained and sparred with Adamek and even broken his ribs) before that he was only a part-time boxer and was working on building constructions. for fight vs Szpilka he lost 7kg and i'm pretty sure he will improve himself again as he is a full-time boxer from now.
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Tony1244 wrote:As I said Adam is limited but I think only 3-4 HWs could KO Adam: Wlad, Wilder, Ortiz, and Joshua.
Kownacki should fight someone like Breazeale, Andy Ruiz or Helenius. Those would be interesting competitive matchups IMO.
He should probably fight his eating habits too
it was his first really professional training camp (he trained and sparred with Adamek and even broken his ribs) before that he was only a part-time boxer and was working on building constructions. for Szpilka he lost 7kg and i'm pretty sure he will improve himself again as he is a full-time boxer from now.
I doubt very much we see any improvement out of Szpilka.
Zhang too. I think a fast hand, fast moving HW would get the better of him, but the one fight of his I did see was impressive. I don't know if it was microphone placement or what, but when he landed it sounded like a shotgun blast. 
