Golovkin's Trainer Explains Lack of Body Work Against Canelo
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Golovkin's Trainer Explains Lack of Body Work Against Canelo
In the wake of his latest bout, many are wondering where the once relentless body attack of Gennady Golovkin has gone. While the majority of observers believed he did enough to beat Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez, he had to settle for a disputed draw.
The two fought this past Saturday night at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, with Golovkin retaining his IBF, IBO, WBA, WBC middleweight belts after scores of 118-110 (Canelo), 115-113 (Golovkin) and 114-114 came down.
But the question has to be asked: why didn't Golovkin go downstairs more in this fight?
The question was posed to his trainer Abel Sanchez, who explained to BS.com in a recent interview - "I asked him in the corner. I just don't think that he saw the possibility going there. We had a guy with a lot of mobility that was countering well. I just think he didn't see those. I asked him several times in the corner to go to the body and not even so much to the body but punch just a little bit lower.
"They see things different than what we see and I said this in an interview before, he'd only gone eleven or twelve rounds once before so that right there... when you're knocking everybody out, your confidence on going twelve is a little bit different when you have a lot of twelve rounders and you know how the fight is going to go. So I think that had a little bit to do with it, but I think this was a fight that we as a corner and he as a fighter have to learn from, have to see what we're going to do different and what we're going to do different.
"I did ask him in the corner, like I said, in his mind he didn't see the shots."
Credit has to be given to Alvarez, who has very good upper body movement and has become adept at slipping punches and countering.
There is a lot of talk of a rematch between the two and already Sanchez has begun to mentally prepare for it as a trainer.
''Oh, absolutely," stated Sanchez, who arrived back to Big Bear on Monday night.
"That Sunday we were talking about that. We talked a little bit about what we could've done different, Max (Golovkin), Gennady and I, we talked. But until we let him digest it a little bit and let him rest, than we'll talk about it some more."
The two fought this past Saturday night at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, with Golovkin retaining his IBF, IBO, WBA, WBC middleweight belts after scores of 118-110 (Canelo), 115-113 (Golovkin) and 114-114 came down.
But the question has to be asked: why didn't Golovkin go downstairs more in this fight?
The question was posed to his trainer Abel Sanchez, who explained to BS.com in a recent interview - "I asked him in the corner. I just don't think that he saw the possibility going there. We had a guy with a lot of mobility that was countering well. I just think he didn't see those. I asked him several times in the corner to go to the body and not even so much to the body but punch just a little bit lower.
"They see things different than what we see and I said this in an interview before, he'd only gone eleven or twelve rounds once before so that right there... when you're knocking everybody out, your confidence on going twelve is a little bit different when you have a lot of twelve rounders and you know how the fight is going to go. So I think that had a little bit to do with it, but I think this was a fight that we as a corner and he as a fighter have to learn from, have to see what we're going to do different and what we're going to do different.
"I did ask him in the corner, like I said, in his mind he didn't see the shots."
Credit has to be given to Alvarez, who has very good upper body movement and has become adept at slipping punches and countering.
There is a lot of talk of a rematch between the two and already Sanchez has begun to mentally prepare for it as a trainer.
''Oh, absolutely," stated Sanchez, who arrived back to Big Bear on Monday night.
"That Sunday we were talking about that. We talked a little bit about what we could've done different, Max (Golovkin), Gennady and I, we talked. But until we let him digest it a little bit and let him rest, than we'll talk about it some more."
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So, targeting the head is an easier task than going to the body?Ruthless-RKO wrote:I asked him several times in the corner to go to the body and not even so much to the body but punch just a little bit lower.
he'd only gone eleven or twelve rounds once before so that right there... when you're knocking everybody out, your confidence on going twelve is a little bit different when you have a lot of twelve rounders and you know how the fight is going to go.
"I did ask him in the corner, like I said, in his mind he didn't see the shots."
What happened to the saying "kill the body and the head will fall" ?
Against a guy known to have outstanding head movement, with a much shorter reach, and with cement feet?
Gennady was pacing himself for the distance ? After you said it was a 8-10 th rd stoppage?
Is there a biggest snake in the boxing world than Abel Sanchez?
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Re: Golovkin's Trainer Explains Lack of Body Work Against Canelo
Canelo is an excellent counter attacker. Going downstairs would leave his chin exposed. Not that they would have fazed GGG anyway. GGG absorbs anything that hits him.crow wrote:So, targeting the head is an easier task than going to the body?Ruthless-RKO wrote:I asked him several times in the corner to go to the body and not even so much to the body but punch just a little bit lower.
he'd only gone eleven or twelve rounds once before so that right there... when you're knocking everybody out, your confidence on going twelve is a little bit different when you have a lot of twelve rounders and you know how the fight is going to go.
"I did ask him in the corner, like I said, in his mind he didn't see the shots."
Against a guy known to have outstanding head movement, with a much shorter reach, and with cement feet?
Gennady was pacing himself for the distance ? After you said it was a 8-10 th rd stoppage?
Is there a biggest snake in the boxing world than Abel Sanchez?
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Easier said then done but I would have loved less of those straight rights to the head and some to the sternum/belly area. Even a few jabs to the body. That would have been magnificent.
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Golovkin should hire Roach.
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I think that you're right Ruthless. Canelo's reflexes are so damn good and I was very impressed with Canelo's defense, specifically, bobbing and weaving that lead to a ton of missed punches from GGG. There's some serious snap in Canelo's punches as evident by GGG's face days after the fight. He definitely looks worse for the wear.Ruthless-RKO wrote:Canelo is an excellent counter attacker. Going downstairs would leave his chin exposed. Not that they would have fazed GGG anyway. GGG absorbs anything that hits him.crow wrote:So, targeting the head is an easier task than going to the body?Ruthless-RKO wrote:I asked him several times in the corner to go to the body and not even so much to the body but punch just a little bit lower.
he'd only gone eleven or twelve rounds once before so that right there... when you're knocking everybody out, your confidence on going twelve is a little bit different when you have a lot of twelve rounders and you know how the fight is going to go.
"I did ask him in the corner, like I said, in his mind he didn't see the shots."
Against a guy known to have outstanding head movement, with a much shorter reach, and with cement feet?
Gennady was pacing himself for the distance ? After you said it was a 8-10 th rd stoppage?
Is there a biggest snake in the boxing world than Abel Sanchez?
Should GGG focus more on the body in the next one? Absolutely. But i can understand why he focused on the safe target areas allowing him to defend the counter more effectively.
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Re: Golovkin's Trainer Explains Lack of Body Work Against Canelo
I think GGG just bruises easily TBH. He does get hit clean as we saw vs. Brook, even after the Brook fight, he was a little marked up.caldo2025 wrote:I think that you're right Ruthless. Canelo's reflexes are so damn good and I was very impressed with Canelo's defense, specifically, bobbing and weaving that lead to a ton of missed punches from GGG. There's some serious snap in Canelo's punches as evident by GGG's face days after the fight. He definitely looks worse for the wear.Ruthless-RKO wrote:Canelo is an excellent counter attacker. Going downstairs would leave his chin exposed. Not that they would have fazed GGG anyway. GGG absorbs anything that hits him.crow wrote:
So, targeting the head is an easier task than going to the body?
Against a guy known to have outstanding head movement, with a much shorter reach, and with cement feet?
Gennady was pacing himself for the distance ? After you said it was a 8-10 th rd stoppage?
Is there a biggest snake in the boxing world than Abel Sanchez?
Should GGG focus more on the body in the next one? Absolutely. But i can understand why he focused on the safe target areas allowing him to defend the counter more effectively.
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Ladies and gentlemen, what we have here is a crowbyrd cawing gibberish in a desperate attempt to give the appearance that he has some idea of what he is cawing about.crow wrote:So, targeting the head is an easier task than going to the body?Ruthless-RKO wrote:I asked him several times in the corner to go to the body and not even so much to the body but punch just a little bit lower.
he'd only gone eleven or twelve rounds once before so that right there... when you're knocking everybody out, your confidence on going twelve is a little bit different when you have a lot of twelve rounders and you know how the fight is going to go.
"I did ask him in the corner, like I said, in his mind he didn't see the shots."
What happened to the saying "kill the body and the head will fall" ?
Against a guy known to have outstanding head movement, with a much shorter reach, and with cement feet?
Gennady was pacing himself for the distance ? After you said it was a 8-10 th rd stoppage?
Is there a biggest snake in the boxing world than Abel Sanchez?
1. If attempting to kill the body will get your block knocked off, the adage does not apply.
2. GingerHead has approximately the same reach as 3G.
3. A boxer with cement feet does not dance for 12 rounds the way GingerHead did.
4. Boxers who do not pace themselves in world championship fights against p4p competition lose.
5. Failing to predict the outcome of a fight has no relation to how a boxer paces himself in a 12 round fight with a p4p level opponent.
6. You have failed to provide any evidence whatsoever that Sanchez is a snake.
Conclusion; crowbyrd has zero idea what he is cawing about, again.
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It's easier to protect your head while throwing high than while throwing low, so you will get countered less. I.e. if you throw a right cross high, you can protect your chin with your right shoulder. But if you throw a straight right to the body, you can't bring your shoulder up high enough to shield your chin. Same with high hooks vs low hooks. You could, instead, bend over to throw straight body punches and shield yourself from hooks, but you would be open to uppercuts.crow wrote:So, targeting the head is an easier task than going to the body?
I still think Golovkin should have gone to the body more. But it's a fact that it's harder to protect your head while throwing to the body, unless you're moving off the opponents line to set-up the body punches.
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Lackeos wrote:It's easier to protect your head while throwing high than while throwing low, so you will get countered less. I.e. if you throw a right cross high, you can protect your chin with your right shoulder. But if you throw a straight right to the body, you can't bring your shoulder up high enough to shield your chin. Same with high hooks vs low hooks. You could, instead, bend over to throw straight body punches and shield yourself from hooks, but you would be open to uppercuts.crow wrote:So, targeting the head is an easier task than going to the body?
I still think Golovkin should have gone to the body more. But it's a fact that it's harder to protect your head while throwing to the body, unless you're moving off the opponents line to set-up the body punches.
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And using a high guard to protect your chin leaves your body open; it goes both ways.Lackeos wrote: But it's a fact that it's harder to protect your head while throwing to the body, unless you're moving off the opponents line to set-up the body punches.
Pro boxers know to vary their attacks to both head and body, keeping their opponents guessing whether the next punch goes high or low and therefore moving their guard.
One of boxing's most celebrated one-punch KOS is Mc Callum vs Curry; Curry is on record to not have protected his chin because he thought Mc Callum was going to punch to the body, as he had done up to that point.
Boxing 101.
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Sometimes I wonder about whether people pulling sh!t out of their backsides about a fight even bothered watching it.
GingerHead was setting traps. 3G chose not to fall into the traps and possibly allow his opponent to score more meaningful blows than his own.
It is a calculation made in the ring by the boxer, as Sanchez intimated.
GingerHead was setting traps. 3G chose not to fall into the traps and possibly allow his opponent to score more meaningful blows than his own.
It is a calculation made in the ring by the boxer, as Sanchez intimated.
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Re: Golovkin's Trainer Explains Lack of Body Work Against Canelo
He probably thought he could knock out Canelo but he should've went for the body.