How satisfying is boxing

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JMac wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:When I first started, I think I was 9, as a kid I was crazy into fitness; ran all the time and did push ups and situps constantly. Boxing was my love, I knew all the Heavyweight champs in order and used to make my pop box me and get mad when he wouldn't punch me. My uncle always talks about my first sparring session. My spot in Baltimore wasn't exactly a hotbed for Boxing. A guy named George Burton was the star of the gym. We could have went further into the inner city but pop took me out to the county to Loch raven gym. The only kid near my size there was 13. Unc always muses proudly about that first session, I was apprehensive but as soon as my back touched the ropes I went Morales/Pac 1 in a frenzy. By the fourth time I owned that kid and had to spar with a guy who had like 50 pounds on me. Ironically, he ended up dating the hottest girl in my grade school when he was in HS and went on to play for the Jets. We're still friends.
You must of been coached by Frank Gilbert and Jimmy Hines. Good guys. Jimmy passed a few years ago. Frank is getting close.
Yup, sorry to hear about that.
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littlepug wrote:
Cent0089 wrote:Taking a punch is hard. 3x3 minutes can be very long. IMO boxing is very satysfying, especially when you doing it in best shape of you. Ive never boxed competetively, but ive had a lot of trainings, and even sparrings. At 77 kilos i can cut to 75 weightclass easily, but ive had never consider myself for shape for competetive boxing, and i can do 100 pushups :D :D :D It is hard to do some serious boxing when you are in full time job :-/
Hard but not impossible, a lot of pros hold down full time jobs as did I.
Didnt joe smith work a normal job paralell to figjting hopkins etc?
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Jip wrote:
littlepug wrote:
Cent0089 wrote:Taking a punch is hard. 3x3 minutes can be very long. IMO boxing is very satysfying, especially when you doing it in best shape of you. Ive never boxed competetively, but ive had a lot of trainings, and even sparrings. At 77 kilos i can cut to 75 weightclass easily, but ive had never consider myself for shape for competetive boxing, and i can do 100 pushups :D :D :D It is hard to do some serious boxing when you are in full time job :-/
Hard but not impossible, a lot of pros hold down full time jobs as did I.
Didnt joe smith work a normal job paralell to figjting hopkins etc?
Yeah in construction I think,
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Jip wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Jip wrote:
Thank you for always reminding me that i am fat :neutral:
Get yourself in shape before you ever think about competing.

At least 100 pushups, and 150 crunches or situps every damn day. If you ain't doing that, you ain't serious about competing in the sport.
I dont want to compete. I just was curious to know how it felt to box in the ring. I am over 30. Boxing is over for me. But training would be good. More than that.it would be fantastic. Getting in shape. Have more energy. Being more positiv about life in general. Feeling better.

Train by myself would be good. Jogging. Shadow boxing. Etc.. I have a negativ towards going in the gym and train with others. That one guy might do something stupid and break my nose in sparring. Boxing attracts some stupid people. But alone it is hard to push yourself. Still got to do it.
You're only 30 mate, not exactly in the grave yet! Pull-ups (not the nappies btw!) are very useful as a bodyweight exercise, but unless you're already fairly fit and have a good muscle to bodyweight ratio they can take some time to get the hang of. For most people, they're something you work up to, not something you can do instantly. Same goes for the number of press-ups/ sit-ups/ crunches mentioned by earlier. I wouldn't expect anybody, unless they were already super-fit, to be able to walk into a gym and do that many straight away. It takes time. Apparently Chad Dawson can only do a few pull-ups, despite being a pro with years of training.

Oh and don't worry about getting your nose broken in sparring, that hardly ever happens and no decent gym would allow it. Sparring should be about learning and developing skills (obviously you will get hit to an extent!). But probably not as badly as you imagine. Nobody learns anything from getting a beating, and nobody learns anything from giving a beating, especially as a novice.
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Going into my first fight I had no confidence because my trainer was sparring me with pros for a couple of weeks and I was getting my butt kicked. My first fight was in a novice tournament and my opponent was out of a north Philly gym and had all of this Marine Corps gear. That didn't help my confidence. Anyway once the bell rang, I was fighting on pure adrenaline and 32 seconds into the first round, I caught him straight down the middle, right on his mouth chin area and he went down and was out for like 15 minutes. This was back in the day of horse hair gloves, optional headgear and almost no padding on the ring other than a felt mat. Knowing I KO'd him was the most incredible feeling. You couldn't give me a drug to make me higher than what I was already feeling that night.
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darkrobot wrote:
Jip wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Get yourself in shape before you ever think about competing.

At least 100 pushups, and 150 crunches or situps every damn day. If you ain't doing that, you ain't serious about competing in the sport.
I dont want to compete. I just was curious to know how it felt to box in the ring. I am over 30. Boxing is over for me. But training would be good. More than that.it would be fantastic. Getting in shape. Have more energy. Being more positiv about life in general. Feeling better.

Train by myself would be good. Jogging. Shadow boxing. Etc.. I have a negativ towards going in the gym and train with others. That one guy might do something stupid and break my nose in sparring. Boxing attracts some stupid people. But alone it is hard to push yourself. Still got to do it.
You're only 30 mate, not exactly in the grave yet! Pull-ups (not the nappies btw!) are very useful as a bodyweight exercise, but unless you're already fairly fit and have a good muscle to bodyweight ratio they can take some time to get the hang of. For most people, they're something you work up to, not something you can do instantly. Same goes for the number of press-ups/ sit-ups/ crunches mentioned by earlier. I wouldn't expect anybody, unless they were already super-fit, to be able to walk into a gym and do that many straight away. It takes time. Apparently Chad Dawson can only do a few pull-ups, despite being a pro with years of training.

Oh and don't worry about getting your nose broken in sparring, that hardly ever happens and no decent gym would allow it. Sparring should be about learning and developing skills (obviously you will get hit to an extent!). But probably not as badly as you imagine. Nobody learns anything from getting a beating, and nobody learns anything from giving a beating, especially as a novice.
Within reason taking a beating and learning to take a beating are very useful elements in sparring, imo
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darkrobot wrote:
Jip wrote:
I dont want to compete. I just was curious to know how it felt to box in the ring. I am over 30. Boxing is over for me. But training would be good. More than that.it would be fantastic. Getting in shape. Have more energy. Being more positiv about life in general. Feeling better.

Train by myself would be good. Jogging. Shadow boxing. Etc.. I have a negativ towards going in the gym and train with others. That one guy might do something stupid and break my nose in sparring. Boxing attracts some stupid people. But alone it is hard to push yourself. Still got to do it.
You're only 30 mate, not exactly in the grave yet! Pull-ups (not the nappies btw!) are very useful as a bodyweight exercise, but unless you're already fairly fit and have a good muscle to bodyweight ratio they can take some time to get the hang of. For most people, they're something you work up to, not something you can do instantly. Same goes for the number of press-ups/ sit-ups/ crunches mentioned by earlier. I wouldn't expect anybody, unless they were already super-fit, to be able to walk into a gym and do that many straight away. It takes time. Apparently Chad Dawson can only do a few pull-ups, despite being a pro with years of training.

Oh and don't worry about getting your nose broken in sparring, that hardly ever happens and no decent gym would allow it. Sparring should be about learning and developing skills (obviously you will get hit to an extent!). But probably not as badly as you imagine. Nobody learns anything from getting a beating, and nobody learns anything from giving a beating, especially as a novice.
Within reason taking a beating and learning to take a beating are very useful elements in sparring, imo
:TU: also, saying that allowing a nose to be broken during sparring us the choice of a gym is clearly the work of someone that has never laced up gloves or touched a breast.
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Jip wrote:I have been boxing, but only training and only for a short period of time, so i cant realy talk about landing a ko punch or coming from behind of scorecards to winning the fight.

How is it to stand in the ring. The excitemant, the highs, the lows. In terms of adrenalin rush or endorphines etc it must be crazy.
Boxing is only truly satisfying if you master it... It’s great fun to get in there and trade punches and KO anybody out there... knocking somebody out to the cheers of a crowd is a massive adrenaline rush even if you’re a 5th rate boxer... However it’s like going on a roller coaster ride... or winning by KO in a street fight... or picking up a beautiful girl and banging the Hell out of her... All those things are great cursory pleasures but NOT accomplishments... They don’t satisfy the soul... What have you accomplished in Boxing? That's the question.

But if you can get a great stance, balance, and get some footwork going.. develop a superior jab.. develop masterful timing on your right counter.. strategically outthink and outsmart an accomplished boxer, even if it’s as his sparring partner on a given day.. or you run up a decent amateur record.. and pass up the cheap thrill of hurting your sparring partners – sort of like turning down a gorgeous girl who hits on you because you’re married and want to be faithful – then Boxing can be truly satisfying as only real accomplishments can be ... and you can be satisfied that you're a good person as well.
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Kalan wrote:
Jip wrote:I have been boxing, but only training and only for a short period of time, so i cant realy talk about landing a ko punch or coming from behind of scorecards to winning the fight.

How is it to stand in the ring. The excitemant, the highs, the lows. In terms of adrenalin rush or endorphines etc it must be crazy.
Boxing is only truly satisfying if you master it... It’s great fun to get in there and trade punches and KO anybody out there... knocking somebody out to the cheers of a crowd is a massive adrenaline rush even if you’re a 5th rate boxer... However it’s like going on a roller coaster ride... or winning by KO in a street fight... or picking up a beautiful girl and banging the Hell out of her... All those things are great cursory pleasures but NOT accomplishments... They don’t satisfy the soul... What have you accomplished in Boxing? That's the question.

But if you can get a great stance, balance, and get some footwork going.. develop a superior jab.. develop masterful timing on your right counter.. strategically outthink and outsmart an accomplished boxer, even if it’s as his sparring partner on a given day.. or you run up a decent amateur record.. and pass up the cheap thrill of hurting your sparring partners – sort of like turning down a gorgeous girl who hits on you because you’re married and want to be faithful – then Boxing can be truly satisfying as only real accomplishments can be.
What was your record? For someone that mocks fighters like Ali, Whitaker and Benitez you must have been something else.
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Counter-puncher wrote:
darkrobot wrote:
Jip wrote:
I dont want to compete. I just was curious to know how it felt to box in the ring. I am over 30. Boxing is over for me. But training would be good. More than that.it would be fantastic. Getting in shape. Have more energy. Being more positiv about life in general. Feeling better.

Train by myself would be good. Jogging. Shadow boxing. Etc.. I have a negativ towards going in the gym and train with others. That one guy might do something stupid and break my nose in sparring. Boxing attracts some stupid people. But alone it is hard to push yourself. Still got to do it.
You're only 30 mate, not exactly in the grave yet! Pull-ups (not the nappies btw!) are very useful as a bodyweight exercise, but unless you're already fairly fit and have a good muscle to bodyweight ratio they can take some time to get the hang of. For most people, they're something you work up to, not something you can do instantly. Same goes for the number of press-ups/ sit-ups/ crunches mentioned by earlier. I wouldn't expect anybody, unless they were already super-fit, to be able to walk into a gym and do that many straight away. It takes time. Apparently Chad Dawson can only do a few pull-ups, despite being a pro with years of training.

Oh and don't worry about getting your nose broken in sparring, that hardly ever happens and no decent gym would allow it. Sparring should be about learning and developing skills (obviously you will get hit to an extent!). But probably not as badly as you imagine. Nobody learns anything from getting a beating, and nobody learns anything from giving a beating, especially as a novice.
Within reason taking a beating and learning to take a beating are very useful elements in sparring, imo
I get what you're saying. But there's a big difference between a few hard shots and a full-on beating. I'm sure you know from your own experience, the first time you take a hard shot to the head from someone much bigger (as I did the first time I sparred) it can disorientate you. Sometimes this can actually be helpful- I have also been punched in the face in a street attack and it had no effect on me because I was used to it from sparring. Although I'd never gone bareknuckle before! I'm sure you've heard that most of the damage done to Ali was believed to had been sustained during sparring rather than fighting. There is an optimum way of sparring, no need to go over (or under!) do it.
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darkrobot wrote: Oh and don't worry about getting your nose broken in sparring, that hardly ever happens and no decent gym would allow it. Sparring should be about learning and developing skills (obviously you will get hit to an extent!). But probably not as badly as you imagine. Nobody learns anything from getting a beating, and nobody learns anything from giving a beating, especially as a novice
The gym doesn't have anything to say about whether you get your nose broken or any other injury... You sign a legal agreement beforehand --acknowledging you're taking certain risks -- and that the gym is not going to be responsible for your possible injuries, regardless of how serious they are.. However, you're generally going to be matched appropriately with guys of your own ability and experience.. That however, does not eliminate risk.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:
darkrobot wrote:

Within reason taking a beating and learning to take a beating are very useful elements in sparring, imo
:TU: also, saying that allowing a nose to be broken during sparring us the choice of a gym is clearly the work of someone that has never laced up gloves or touched a breast.
Wtf? I'm guessing you enjoy goading people by some of your previous posts. But I train at the best gym in the country (produced multiple pro world champions), have done for 10 years, and never seen a broken nose from sparring. The occasional nosebleed or black eye once in a blue moon, usually because the victim was not paying attention to their defence. But good gyms teach this stuff properly.

Yet your daddy pulled you out of a fight because you hurt your nose?????

Never touched a breast? Wtaf? I have been with my partner for 9 years and we are now very happily married thank you, of course we have both have had other relationships in the past too.

What about you?
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:For someone that mocks fighters like Ali, Whitaker and Benitez you must have been something else
You admit you hate the Klitschko's and love to bad mouth Vitali in particular...

Vitali was a 3-time Heavyweight Champion of the World and never knocked down or behind on points after ANY of his fights, unlike the above guys -- and he fought til he was 41, ending on a long winning steak in World Title Fights -- unlike any of the above who all finished very poorly.. And Vitali has a responsible job where he's helping millions as the mayor of Kiev.. None of the above qualified for a job of that responsibility following their wrecked boxing careers.

If I do a critique of a boxer it's done very thoughtfully and knowledgeably... You're critiques of Vitali are filled with raw spewing HATRED!!!
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Kalan wrote:
darkrobot wrote: Oh and don't worry about getting your nose broken in sparring, that hardly ever happens and no decent gym would allow it. Sparring should be about learning and developing skills (obviously you will get hit to an extent!). But probably not as badly as you imagine. Nobody learns anything from getting a beating, and nobody learns anything from giving a beating, especially as a novice
The gym doesn't have anything to say about whether you get your nose broken or any other injury... You sign a legal agreement beforehand --acknowledging you're taking certain risks -- and that the gym is not going to be responsible for your possible injuries, regardless of how serious they are.. However, you're generally going to be matched appropriately with guys of your own ability and experience.. That however, does not eliminate risk.
True, no arguments there. But regardless of legal responsibility, a good coach will always watch out for their boxers. You can't eliminate risk entirely, but you can take calculated risks. But of course that is the responsibility of the boxer just as much as the coach. I have just heard too many stories about novices (including children) being beaten up (and I mean really badly beaten, not just outclassed) by bigger, more experienced fighters on the orders of of the gym, so I'm a bit cynical about some gyms now.
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Kalan wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:For someone that mocks fighters like Ali, Whitaker and Benitez you must have been something else
You admit you hate the Klitschko's and love to bad mouth Vitali in particular...

Vitali was a 3-time Heavyweight Champion of the World and never knocked down or behind on points after ANY of his fights, unlike the above guys -- and he fought til he was 41, ending on a long winning steak in World Title Fights -- unlike any of the above who all finished very poorly.. And Vitali has a responsible job where he's helping millions as the mayor of Kiev.. None of the above qualified for a job of that responsibility following their wrecked boxing careers.

If I do a critique of a boxer it's done very thoughtfully and knowledgeably... You're critiques of Vitali are filled with raw spewing HATRED!!!
Vitali has a poor resume, that's factual. I don't know why I bother with a kid like you that hasn't seen anything of the world. What was your record?
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darkrobot wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote: :TU: also, saying that allowing a nose to be broken during sparring us the choice of a gym is clearly the work of someone that has never laced up gloves or touched a breast.
Wtf? I'm guessing you enjoy goading people by some of your previous posts. But I train at the best gym in the country (produced multiple pro world champions), have done for 10 years, and never seen a broken nose from sparring. The occasional nosebleed or black eye once in a blue moon, usually because the victim was not paying attention to their defence. But good gyms teach this stuff properly.

Yet your daddy pulled you out of a fight because you hurt your nose?????

Never touched a breast? Wtaf? I have been with my partner for 9 years and we are now very happily married thank you, of course we have both have had other relationships in the past too.

What about you?
A nose can be broken by a jab at any level. If you've ever boxed you would know that.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
darkrobot wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Wtf? I'm guessing you enjoy goading people by some of your previous posts. But I train at the best gym in the country (produced multiple pro world champions), have done for 10 years, and never seen a broken nose from sparring. The occasional nosebleed or black eye once in a blue moon, usually because the victim was not paying attention to their defence. But good gyms teach this stuff properly.

Yet your daddy pulled you out of a fight because you hurt your nose?????

Never touched a breast? Wtaf? I have been with my partner for 9 years and we are now very happily married thank you, of course we have both have had other relationships in the past too.

What about you?
A nose can be broken by a jab at any level. If you've ever boxed you would know that.
Ah, the old "No true scotsman" fallacy. I have boxed, and never, never had my nose broken by a jab (or any punch for that matter). Sure, it's possible, but unusual. You must have incredibly poor defence, or incredibly weak bones. Have you you ever been tested for osteoporosis?

And I can't help but notice you never answered my question about your personal life? Why on earth could that be I wonder??? Especially since you were the one who brought the subject up in the first place.
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darkrobot wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
darkrobot wrote:
Wtf? I'm guessing you enjoy goading people by some of your previous posts. But I train at the best gym in the country (produced multiple pro world champions), have done for 10 years, and never seen a broken nose from sparring. The occasional nosebleed or black eye once in a blue moon, usually because the victim was not paying attention to their defence. But good gyms teach this stuff properly.

Yet your daddy pulled you out of a fight because you hurt your nose?????

Never touched a breast? Wtaf? I have been with my partner for 9 years and we are now very happily married thank you, of course we have both have had other relationships in the past too.

What about you?
A nose can be broken by a jab at any level. If you've ever boxed you would know that.
Ah, the old "No true scotsman" fallacy. I have boxed, and never, never had my nose broken by a jab (or any punch for that matter). Sure, it's possible, but unusual. You must have incredibly poor defence, or incredibly weak bones. Have you you ever been tested for osteoporosis?

And I can't help but notice you never answered my question about your personal life? Why on earth could that be I wonder??? Especially since you were the one who brought the subject up in the first place.
What question would that be? Have I had relationships? Yes I have. I hope you and your partner live long and prosper. If you know that a jab could break a nose than you shouldn't say it couldn't. Anyway, partner boy, you take care of yourself.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
darkrobot wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
A nose can be broken by a jab at any level. If you've ever boxed you would know that.
Ah, the old "No true scotsman" fallacy. I have boxed, and never, never had my nose broken by a jab (or any punch for that matter). Sure, it's possible, but unusual. You must have incredibly poor defence, or incredibly weak bones. Have you you ever been tested for osteoporosis?

And I can't help but notice you never answered my question about your personal life? Why on earth could that be I wonder??? Especially since you were the one who brought the subject up in the first place.
What question would that be? Have I had relationships? Yes I have. I hope you and your partner live long and prosper. If you know that a jab could break a nose than you shouldn't say it couldn't. Anyway, partner boy, you take care of yourself.
I never said a jab couldn't break a nose, I said it was unusual, and not something I've seen in 10 years of training at an excellent pro gym. Although they are very big on teaching defence as well as attack, so maybe we've just had very different experiences.

"Partner boy"? Not sure what that means.

Thank you for your good wishes about me and my wife though. I hope all turns out well for you too. :TU:
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darkrobot wrote:
Jip wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Get yourself in shape before you ever think about competing.

At least 100 pushups, and 150 crunches or situps every damn day. If you ain't doing that, you ain't serious about competing in the sport.
I dont want to compete. I just was curious to know how it felt to box in the ring. I am over 30. Boxing is over for me. But training would be good. More than that.it would be fantastic. Getting in shape. Have more energy. Being more positiv about life in general. Feeling better.

Train by myself would be good. Jogging. Shadow boxing. Etc.. I have a negativ towards going in the gym and train with others. That one guy might do something stupid and break my nose in sparring. Boxing attracts some stupid people. But alone it is hard to push yourself. Still got to do it.

Oh and don't worry about getting your nose broken in sparring, that hardly ever happens and no decent gym would allow it. .
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I'd get my kicked in if I went in the ring. :TU:
Been watching it almost as long as I can remember though.
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Oh and don't worry about getting your nose broken in sparring, that hardly ever happens and no decent gym would allow it.

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Hardly ever. Do you understand that term? Oh, and decent gym, as well.

Perhaps you have concussion as well as a poorly nose? Your reading comprehension seems worryingly poor.

Either you have an extremely low IQ, or you just enjoy goading people. (Based on many of your previous posts). Either way, I'm not interested in talking to you. Waste somebody else's time, not mine.

But anyway, have fun on the internet all night. Take care not to hurt your fragile little nose now. I will say goodnight as I'm about to get into my big comfy bed with my beautiful wife. :TU:
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It's extremely satisfying, all sport fighting is...I've never cared for street fighting myself. Too many things can go wrong.

Oh, and for whatever it's worth I've had my nose broken sparring. In terms of "bigger" injuries I'd say it's the most common I encountered in the boxing gym, on the same level as broken toes in MMA.
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I've been to several national tournaments and have roughly 60 amatuer bouts, it's an unexplainable feeling, one thing i can say is nothing puts you in a more lonely state like boxing, brutal and stressful sport
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punchoutsb wrote:It's extremely satisfying, all sport fighting is...I've never cared for street fighting myself. Too many things can go wrong.

Oh, and for whatever it's worth I've had my nose broken sparring. In terms of "bigger" injuries I'd say it's the most common I encountered in the boxing gym, on the same level as broken toes in MMA.
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