what % should WILDER get against AJ ? *

what % should WILDER get against AJ ?

50%
12
26%
45%
1
2%
40%
13
28%
35%
6
13%
30%
9
20%
25%
5
11%
 
Total votes: 46

dickbelden
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Post by dickbelden »

*
gilgamesh
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Post by gilgamesh »

30% would be the most money he's ever made by far, and would be fair.

40% would be extremely generous
asdfjkl
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Post by asdfjkl »

More like 4, or 5%, about similar like Molina had, in cash, not in %.
SaadOffTheDeck
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Post by SaadOffTheDeck »

30
dagilechia
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Post by dagilechia »

i voted 30%
ElJefe
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Post by ElJefe »

Can you add an option for 'Don't care, just fight"? Financial stuff bores me, I've got very little interest in purses and splits. I'm not really sure why boxing fans are bothered by it. The only thing I care about is the fight itself.
Enlightened-One
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Post by Enlightened-One »

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: 06 Nov 2017, 15:2530
I thought you made a búllshít claim about Deontay Wilder only wanting $7m to face Anthony Joshua? Do you admit to talking utter bóllócks? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ossyrules
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Badhusker has voted as there is a vote on 50%
Badhusker
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I just voted 40%. Neither guy is a big draw, but AJ obviously should be the A side, so 60/40 is fair. If Wilder gets a belt from Parker before they fight, I would say 50/50.
Kalan
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Post by Kalan »

Badhusker wrote: 06 Nov 2017, 18:10 Neither guy is a big draw
WTF ??!?! ... Joshua is a tremendous draw.. The biggest draw since Jack Dempsey. In his last 2 fights he drew 160,000 fans.

Nobody but Jack Dempsey and a very young Joe Louis pulled them in like that... And fight Takam on a couple weeks' notice and draw 70,000???

That's sick dude... He's not even an American, has 20 professional fights, and doesn't have tremendous worldwide fame yet... Wait 2 years!
Oiky
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Post by Oiky »

40%

That still smashes his current career high payday
jamamb
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Post by jamamb »

Badhusker wrote: 06 Nov 2017, 18:10 I just voted 40%. Neither guy is a big draw, but AJ obviously should be the A side, so 60/40 is fair. If Wilder gets a belt from Parker before they fight, I would say 50/50.

joshua just did 80k attendence and 8 figure earnings against carlos takam. not a big draw? wtf is wrong with you man :lol:
boxing_rocks
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Post by boxing_rocks »

Golovkin who has 3 belts and is the man at 160 got 30% for the Canelo fight, so 30% to Wilder would be very generous.
fightfan95
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Post by fightfan95 »

I put 35% - but I think that's a bit generous.
Badhusker
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Post by Badhusker »

jamamb wrote: 06 Nov 2017, 20:05
Badhusker wrote: 06 Nov 2017, 18:10 I just voted 40%. Neither guy is a big draw, but AJ obviously should be the A side, so 60/40 is fair. If Wilder gets a belt from Parker before they fight, I would say 50/50.

joshua just did 80k attendence and 8 figure earnings against carlos takam. not a big draw? wtf is wrong with you man :lol:
Joshua is a big draw in his home country, but I was talking world-wide in ppv terms. Pacquiao was always a huge draw in his home country, but it doesn't automatically translate into a big draw world-wide for PPV, or he would have been fighting there.

Together, fighting each other, Wilder and Joshua would bring decent world wide PPV sales, but still wouldn't approach anything Manny, Floyd, or Canelo. Canelo has always been huge in Mexico, but hadn't headlined his own PPV until about 3 or maybe 4 years ago.
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Post by Thomastearns »

To get to Manny/Floyd levels this fight needs building. Look how long that one took to build.

Since Ali/Tyson, heavyweight boxing has been in a slight shadow worldwide. This one could could change all of that.
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Just because a 20% cut would be Wilder's biggest payday by far, doesn't mean he should agree to it. Floyd offered Manny $40 million, which would have been his biggest payday by far, but they were smart and declined, knowing it would generate to much more.
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Post by Enlightened-One »

Badhusker wrote: 07 Nov 2017, 07:10
jamamb wrote: 06 Nov 2017, 20:05
Badhusker wrote: 06 Nov 2017, 18:10 I just voted 40%. Neither guy is a big draw, but AJ obviously should be the A side, so 60/40 is fair. If Wilder gets a belt from Parker before they fight, I would say 50/50.

joshua just did 80k attendence and 8 figure earnings against carlos takam. not a big draw? wtf is wrong with you man :lol:
Joshua is a big draw in his home country, but I was talking world-wide in ppv terms.
"Worldwide PPV terms" is irrelevant if one fighter draws more than 90% of the revenue, even if most of it comes from his home country.

The numbers alone is all that matters. The geographical location of where they originate from is meaningless.
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Post by Badhusker »

Enlightened-One wrote: 07 Nov 2017, 07:52
Badhusker wrote: 07 Nov 2017, 07:10
jamamb wrote: 06 Nov 2017, 20:05


joshua just did 80k attendence and 8 figure earnings against carlos takam. not a big draw? wtf is wrong with you man :lol:
Joshua is a big draw in his home country, but I was talking world-wide in ppv terms.
"Worldwide PPV terms" is irrelevant if one fighter draws more than 90% of the revenue, even if most of it comes from his home country.

The numbers alone is all that matters. The geographical location of where they originate from is meaningless.
I already said Joshua is a big draw in the UK. If it goes world-wide PPV, a fair split does matter. Its not like no one knows Wilder. Anyone that knows AJ, knows Wilder I'll guarantee you that. Numbers and % split are irrelevant until both sides want the fight. We aren't there yet. Showtime's Espinoza said he wants to go to the fight immediately, and it won't get anymore ripe. Its pretty simple right now, Hearn wants to milk his cash cow some more before risking that fight. Its funny because I would favor Joshua slightly in that fight right now. Hearn apparently does not, regardless of what he says.
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Post by Ossyrules »

Badhusker wrote: 07 Nov 2017, 07:49 Just because a 20% cut would be Wilder's biggest payday by far, doesn't mean he should agree to it. Floyd offered Manny $40 million, which would have been his biggest payday by far, but they were smart and declined, knowing it would generate to much more.
This bout cannot be compared to Mayweather vs Pacquaio, as both them guys drew huge numbers.
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Post by Ossyrules »

Badhusker wrote: 07 Nov 2017, 08:49
Enlightened-One wrote: 07 Nov 2017, 07:52
Badhusker wrote: 07 Nov 2017, 07:10

Joshua is a big draw in his home country, but I was talking world-wide in ppv terms.
"Worldwide PPV terms" is irrelevant if one fighter draws more than 90% of the revenue, even if most of it comes from his home country.

The numbers alone is all that matters. The geographical location of where they originate from is meaningless.
I already said Joshua is a big draw in the UK. If it goes world-wide PPV, a fair split does matter. Its not like no one knows Wilder. Anyone that knows AJ, knows Wilder I'll guarantee you that. Numbers and % split are irrelevant until both sides want the fight. We aren't there yet. Showtime's Espinoza said he wants to go to the fight immediately, and it won't get anymore ripe. Its pretty simple right now, Hearn wants to milk his cash cow some more before risking that fight. Its funny because I would favor Joshua slightly in that fight right now. Hearn apparently does not, regardless of what he says.
Hearn believes in Joshua. You’re extremely naive to suggest otherwise. I appreciate you’re not from these shores and possibly don’t follow English boxing enough to pass sensible judgement.

Hearn is managing a pot of gold while DiBella and wilder are managing a pot to piss in. It’s clear which side have something at stake in these negotiations
Tony1244
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I voted 50%, but 40% is good too. Yes, AJ has fought better opponents but both are undefeated and KO artists.

Anyone saying <30% isn't serious.
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Post by Tony1244 »

I voted 50%, but 40% is good too. Yes, AJ has fought better opponents but both are undefeated and KO artists.

Anyone saying <30% isn't serious.
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Post by Tony1244 »

I voted 50%, but 40% is good too. Yes, AJ has fought better opponents but both are undefeated and KO artists.

Anyone saying <30% isn't serious.

Sorry for the triple post but exactly how long am I supposed to wait on this new crap system that everyone hates?
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Post by boxing_rocks »

Badhusker wrote: 07 Nov 2017, 07:49 Just because a 20% cut would be Wilder's biggest payday by far, doesn't mean he should agree to it. Floyd offered Manny $40 million, which would have been his biggest payday by far, but they were smart and declined, knowing it would generate to much more.
Funny that so many people who were saying that GGG should agree to a flat fee against Canelo and that he can't demand a PPV percentage are now saying that Wilder shouldn't agree to 20 or even 30 percent.
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