Lennox Lewis vs Andrzej Wawrzyk

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Lennox Lewis vs Andrzej Wawrzyk

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BoxRec has to seriously work on their "what if" section, because now it looks... well 'awful' would be too gracious word for this - http://boxrec.com/en/what_if?wi%5Bid%5D ... derDir%5D=
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Re: Lennox Lewis vs Andrzej Wawrzyk

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I don't even know where this "What if" Section is. You guys mention it sometimes, but I've never even looked at that.

But yeah Lennox would wreck Wawryzk inside 3 rounds for sure.
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A lot of work left is right..........and/or up is down.


Cripes.....I just matched Joe Louis vs Bab Satterfield.....and it's a 50/50 proposition.


http://boxrec.com/en/what_if?wi%5Bid%5D ... derDir%5D=
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gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 18:50 I don't even know where this "What if" Section is. You guys mention it sometimes, but I've never even looked at that.

But yeah Lennox would wreck Wawryzk inside 3 rounds for sure.
I'd be shocked if Wawrzyk survived round 1 against prime Lewis
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Re: Lennox Lewis vs Andrzej Wawrzyk

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Boxing Writer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:50
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 18:50 I don't even know where this "What if" Section is. You guys mention it sometimes, but I've never even looked at that.

But yeah Lennox would wreck Wawryzk inside 3 rounds for sure.
I'd be shocked if Wawrzyk survived round 1 against prime Lewis
It would all just depend on how patient Lennox was, but yeah if he felt like steamrolling Wawryzk in 1 have no doubt he could've.
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gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:51
Boxing Writer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:50
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 18:50 I don't even know where this "What if" Section is. You guys mention it sometimes, but I've never even looked at that.

But yeah Lennox would wreck Wawryzk inside 3 rounds for sure.
I'd be shocked if Wawrzyk survived round 1 against prime Lewis
It would all just depend on how patient Lennox was, but yeah if he felt like steamrolling Wawryzk in 1 have no doubt he could've.
Yes, but he was usually aggressive early against guys who were 6'4'' or taller.
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Yeah he was.

It'd be all Lewis for however long it lasted that's for sure.
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Maybe not..... Maybe Wawrzyk would just catch a better fighter on the night.... Like Rahman and McCall :oo
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Anything is possible, but that'd be HIGHLY unlikely.
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Anything is not possible so I don't actually think he would...

But I like Wlad vs Lewis when Wlad was 34 to 37... Very quick feet, quick jab, snappy, ripping hooks, and devastating right hander... He had faster feet, better conditioning, got hit with fewer punches ... and he could bust your head with the right.
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Lennox Lewis would have had 29% chances of winning against Zoltan Petranyi, according to BoxRec's "What If" :lol: :lol: :lol: - http://boxrec.com/en/what_if?wi%5Bid%5D ... derDir%5D=
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"What if" also is likely to be very impressed by Wilder's speeches and believes in his prediction of a match-up against himself against Mike Tyson. http://boxrec.com/en/what_if?wi%5Bid%5D ... derDir%5D=

Talking about Lewis-Wawrzyk, that would have been like Lewis-Golota. Maybe even faster, as Wawrzyk isn't Golota.
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At the beginning I thought it was just something "wrong" with Wawrzyk - while the page shows correctly Lewis-Holy as pretty even, Wawrzyk was favourite not only against Lewis but also Holyfield and Tyson.

Then I started to play with it, and it only got worse. The most absurd result I was able to find was Mike Tyson (3%) - Deontay Wilder (97%).

Looks like the page gives huge bonus to boxers who are active or retired very recently (Wawrzyk). At least this is my idea, since the results seem less absurd when comparing fighters with similar activity/inactivity status...
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gregor wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 12:20 At the beginning I thought it was just something "wrong" with Wawrzyk - while the page shows correctly Lewis-Holy as pretty even, Wawrzyk was favourite not only against Lewis but also Holyfield and Tyson.

Then I started to play with it, and it only got worse. The most absurd result I was able to find was Mike Tyson (3%) - Deontay Wilder (97%).

Looks like the page gives huge bonus to boxers who are active or retired very recently (Wawrzyk). At least this is my idea, since the results seem less absurd when comparing fighters with similar activity/inactivity status...
Gregor Sampson! I just don't think the site is properly setup for the "what if" function. (Obviously I have a PhD in "DUH.")
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DrDuke wrote: 05 Apr 2018, 08:41 "What if" also is likely to be very impressed by Wilder's speeches and believes in his prediction of a match-up against himself against Mike Tyson. http://boxrec.com/en/what_if?wi%5Bid%5D ... derDir%5D=

Talking about Lewis-Wawrzyk, that would have been like Lewis-Golota. Maybe even faster, as Wawrzyk isn't Golota.
Right... Not nearly as stupid and wide open a punching bag as Golota... Golota wouldn't be heard from if he were fighting today... He'd never get to main event status... He couldn't beat Chris Byrd and Ibeabuchi and Wladimir slaughtered Byrd.
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Kalan wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 13:40
DrDuke wrote: 05 Apr 2018, 08:41 "What if" also is likely to be very impressed by Wilder's speeches and believes in his prediction of a match-up against himself against Mike Tyson. http://boxrec.com/en/what_if?wi%5Bid%5D ... derDir%5D=

Talking about Lewis-Wawrzyk, that would have been like Lewis-Golota. Maybe even faster, as Wawrzyk isn't Golota.
Right... Not nearly as stupid and wide open a punching bag as Golota... Golota wouldn't be heard from if he were fighting today... He'd never get to main event status... He couldn't beat Chris Byrd and Ibeabuchi and Wladimir slaughtered Byrd.
Defeating Byrd is a way to establish yourself on the today's scene or what? Furthermore, that fight was controversial, there is an opinion of Golota being robbed there. Anyway that was well prepared, but not prime Golota. Bowe-fight Golota would have most likely battered somebody like Whyte or Wawrzyk, for example. Golota's status today wouldn't be less, than it actually was in the 90s.
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DrDuke wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 14:27
Kalan wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 13:40
DrDuke wrote: 05 Apr 2018, 08:41 "What if" also is likely to be very impressed by Wilder's speeches and believes in his prediction of a match-up against himself against Mike Tyson. http://boxrec.com/en/what_if?wi%5Bid%5D ... derDir%5D=

Talking about Lewis-Wawrzyk, that would have been like Lewis-Golota. Maybe even faster, as Wawrzyk isn't Golota.
Right... Not nearly as stupid and wide open a punching bag as Golota... Golota wouldn't be heard from if he were fighting today... He'd never get to main event status... He couldn't beat Chris Byrd and Ibeabuchi and Wladimir slaughtered Byrd.
Defeating Byrd is a way to establish yourself on the today's scene or what? Furthermore, that fight was controversial, there is an opinion of Golota being robbed there. Anyway that was well prepared, but not prime Golota. Bowe-fight Golota would have most likely battered somebody like Whyte or Wawrzyk, for example. Golota's status today wouldn't be less, than it actually was in the 90s.
Are you kidding??? Byrd wouldn't be ranked today,.. Dubois would destroy him right now with a few fights.

Big powerhouse bruisers like Ibeabuchi and Wladimir Klitschko murdered Chrissie Byrd... You don't let a little tyke like that exist.. Alexander Povetkin had 13 fights when he battered Byrd into a stoppage... Lewis-Byrd thankfully never happened.. Another mismatch like Lewis-Golota... The Foul Pole was a disaster looking for a place to happen.. It's a miracle he got Title Fights.. The division is more rounded out today with more UK and Eastern European Heavyweights.
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Kalan wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 15:12
DrDuke wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 14:27
Kalan wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 13:40

Right... Not nearly as stupid and wide open a punching bag as Golota... Golota wouldn't be heard from if he were fighting today... He'd never get to main event status... He couldn't beat Chris Byrd and Ibeabuchi and Wladimir slaughtered Byrd.
Defeating Byrd is a way to establish yourself on the today's scene or what? Furthermore, that fight was controversial, there is an opinion of Golota being robbed there. Anyway that was well prepared, but not prime Golota. Bowe-fight Golota would have most likely battered somebody like Whyte or Wawrzyk, for example. Golota's status today wouldn't be less, than it actually was in the 90s.
Are you kidding??? Byrd wouldn't be ranked today,.. Dubois would destroy him right now with a few fights.

Big powerhouse bruisers like Ibeabuchi and Wladimir Klitschko murdered Chrissie Byrd... You don't let a little tyke like that exist.. Alexander Povetkin had 13 fights when he battered Byrd into a stoppage... Lewis-Byrd thankfully never happened.. Another mismatch like Lewis-Golota... The Foul Pole was a disaster looking for a place to happen.. It's a miracle he got Title Fights.. The division is more rounded out today with more UK and Eastern European Heavyweights.
Chrissie Byrd! LOL! Who did that to the QB Chris Evert...was it Rome? Called him Chrissie and Evert jumped him.
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Kalan wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 15:12
DrDuke wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 14:27
Kalan wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 13:40

Right... Not nearly as stupid and wide open a punching bag as Golota... Golota wouldn't be heard from if he were fighting today... He'd never get to main event status... He couldn't beat Chris Byrd and Ibeabuchi and Wladimir slaughtered Byrd.
Defeating Byrd is a way to establish yourself on the today's scene or what? Furthermore, that fight was controversial, there is an opinion of Golota being robbed there. Anyway that was well prepared, but not prime Golota. Bowe-fight Golota would have most likely battered somebody like Whyte or Wawrzyk, for example. Golota's status today wouldn't be less, than it actually was in the 90s.
Are you kidding??? Byrd wouldn't be ranked today,.. Dubois would destroy him right now with a few fights.

Big powerhouse bruisers like Ibeabuchi and Wladimir Klitschko murdered Chrissie Byrd... You don't let a little tyke like that exist.. Alexander Povetkin had 13 fights when he battered Byrd into a stoppage... Lewis-Byrd thankfully never happened.. Another mismatch like Lewis-Golota... The Foul Pole was a disaster looking for a place to happen.. It's a miracle he got Title Fights.. The division is more rounded out today with more UK and Eastern European Heavyweights.
As if today division is full of Ibeabuchis and Klitschkos. Byrd could have been champion even now, considering the fact, that Parker had the title not so long ago.
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If the 41-year-old is an ATG Heavyweight Champion who reigned for 10 years and is fighting the best fight of his life they do... Certainly Klitschko can be more proud of his final fight than any of his prior fights... Secretly, I think he is... He did endure 3 knockdowns and an 11th round battering in this fight... He was part of something historic.
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DrDuke wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 15:30 As if today division is full of Ibeabuchis and Klitschkos. Byrd could have been champion even now, considering the fact, that Parker had the title not so long ago.
The Parker who fought Joshua (24-0 beating Takam and Ruiz) would smash Byrd out like the little runt he was... Parker has one of the best chins ever so he would be like Ibeabuchi... Pin Byrd to the ropes and rip him out.
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Kalan wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 17:35
DrDuke wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 15:30 As if today division is full of Ibeabuchis and Klitschkos. Byrd could have been champion even now, considering the fact, that Parker had the title not so long ago.
The Parker who fought Joshua (24-0 beating Takam and Ruiz) would smash Byrd out like the little runt he was... Parker has one of the best chins ever so he would be like Ibeabuchi... Pin Byrd to the ropes and rip him out.
It'd be a competitive matchup I think...and a boring one. Don't know who'd win. I'll have to see more of Parker, but he definitely looked better against AJ even in losing than I'd ever seen him previously.
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If he stood off and didn't attack hard like David Tua fought Byrd... That gets boring... And you can lose that kind of fight like Tua did... I kept thinking, "Okay, your game plan isn't working Tuaman, whatever TF you're doing... Are you going to pin this runner to the ropes and put some serious hands on him or what???" ... Maybe Tua just didn't have the speed for it.

Wladimir was able to outbox Byrd by a mile with his speedy jab, hooks, and right hand... Wlad never learned how to pin a little guy to the ropes and rip their body out, but he didn't need to do that... Ibeabuchi did it perfectly.. The man had a lot of undeveloped talent and very fast hands.. Byrd didn't have a chance in Hell when Ike started to lay them in there.. Parker is fast and his defense is getting a lot better.. His body attack is getting better.. He'd really go after a Byrd like opponent. He's obviously a lot taller and quicker than Tua.
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Kalan wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 17:35
DrDuke wrote: 06 Apr 2018, 15:30 As if today division is full of Ibeabuchis and Klitschkos. Byrd could have been champion even now, considering the fact, that Parker had the title not so long ago.
The Parker who fought Joshua (24-0 beating Takam and Ruiz) would smash Byrd out like the little runt he was... Parker has one of the best chins ever so he would be like Ibeabuchi... Pin Byrd to the ropes and rip him out.
To claim such stuff you need to see more fights of Parker. Cause what we've seen from Parker for the moment is knocking out bums, arguably decisioning Takam, Ruiz and Fury and finally a one really good performance, where he has lost ironically.
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Re: Lennox Lewis vs Andrzej Wawrzyk

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Question is... Why would anyone bother checking a Lennox Lewis vs. Andrzej Wawrzyk what if??

I think everyone and their parents would agree there is only 1 outcome..
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