K. Pulev vs. H. Fury

[Onetimeonly]

Unreal that you can't recognize your bias.

[candyslim]

Oh I'm biased alright. I'm biased in favour of fighters who want to fight and against fighters who don't. Obviously you're a Wilder fan but I don't know what you're calling me on, because apart from vague and unsubstantiated one line put downs you're not saying anything.

[Loki]

Pulev dominated Fury. They are both not good viewing but Pulev beat him exclusively with his jab.

That is how you beat either Fury and something Wlad didn’t do because to win a fight you need to throw punches. Granted, Hughie isn’t as good as Tyson but both are overrated and worst of all, boring as shite.

[candyslim]

I just went on youtube and that stupid hillbilly is running this mouth - hard to believe I know - running his mouth about how people in the UK don't like him because he's black and it'd be totally different if he were white.

What White like Anthony Joshua or Dillian Whyte you mean you elongated moron?

Don't you know Joshua is way more popular than Fury in the UK.? No the reason they dislike you is you're an overprotected loudmouth racist prick who avoids tough opposition wherever possible. When you had no option but to fight someone with a reputation you chose Ortiz, almost certainly because you were gambling that at somewhere between 39 and 49 years old he was past it, and you very nearly came unstuck.

Now you're fighting Fury gambling that three years out the ring and wins over a couple of stiffs will mean he's easy meat. As Tyson himself said. You wouldn't be fighting him if you didn't think he'd be a pushover.

How can you defend this miserable racist pudendum? Oh I forgot. You don't actually attempt that do you?

[Onetimeonly]

Oh I'm biased alright. I'm biased in favour of fighters who want to fight and against fighters who don't. Obviously you're a Wilder fan but I don't know what you're calling me on, because apart from vague and unsubstantiated one line put downs you're not saying anything.

OK, I look forward to your excuses on Dec 2nd.

[candyslim]

You've already had them. I said from the start that Seferi and Pianeta are no preparation for a murderous puncher like Wilder after all Fury has been through since his last meaningful fight.

This would be a great match if Fury had shown himself back to what he was by beating a couple of Ruiz or Kownacki level fighters but then I doubt Wilder would be looking in his direction.

Hopefully Fury will amaze me and beat the sh1t out of him anyway thus releasing the hostage green belt.

[ValMar]

Candyslim, I can tell you something amout amateur boxing scene in former Yugoslavia thirty years ago.
The judges (and refs) were not expensive - Saturday night with a top level prostitute and a bottle of whiskey (decent or very decent quality). Almost all of them accepted this kind of gifts, and it has been become meaningless to follow amateur boxing.

Of course, I don't think that any great promoter ( considerig the recent proffessional boxing) do it personally, but they have several assistants for dirty jobs.

[jvincent]

OK, I look forward to your excuses on Dec 2nd.

Im sorry mate but your delusional if you think Wilder beating this Fury means an awful lot. I hope he's even a shadow of what he was but i doubt it. Just shows he'll only fight "Top" (in instance of Ortiz) opposition when they are somehow handicapped (Fury). If Fury wins at least a lot of the lunatics will be cleared from the internet.

[Quantrax]

Fury covered in acne. Must have been eating wild boar again.

[candyslim]

Candyslim, I can tell you something amout amateur boxing scene in former Yugoslavia thirty years ago.
The judges (and refs) were not expensive - Saturday night with a top level prostitute and a bottle of whiskey (decent or very decent quality). Almost all of them accepted this kind of gifts, and it has been become meaningless to follow amateur boxing.

Of course, I don't think that any great promoter ( considerig the recent proffessional boxing) do it personally, but they have several assistants for dirty jobs.

Damn and I was in Croatia 30 years ago (ok 38).

I hear what you say but I'm sticking by my reasoning posted earlier.

Well said JV

[ValMar]

Candyslim, I can tell you something amout amateur boxing scene in former Yugoslavia thirty years ago.
The judges (and refs) were not expensive - Saturday night with a top level prostitute and a bottle of whiskey (decent or very decent quality). Almost all of them accepted this kind of gifts, and it has been become meaningless to follow amateur boxing.

Of course, I don't think that any great promoter ( considerig the recent proffessional boxing) do it personally, but they have several assistants for dirty jobs.

Damn and I was in Croatia 30 years ago (ok 38).

I hear what you say but I'm sticking by my reasoning posted earlier.

Well said JV

[Onetimeonly]

OK, I look forward to your excuses on Dec 2nd.

Im sorry mate but your delusional if you think Wilder beating this Fury means an awful lot. I hope he's even a shadow of what he was but i doubt it. Just shows he'll only fight "Top" (in instance of Ortiz) opposition when they are somehow handicapped (Fury). If Fury wins at least a lot of the lunatics will be cleared from the internet.

I didn't say it means the world. Slim just irrationally blames wilder for all that is wrong in boxing. Fury is pretty crappy , tbh they both are.

[candyslim]

I suppose I don't really blame Wilder. Yeah he's an asshole but he probably can't help that. I want to like him again because I'll be truly disappointed when he retires, as I am when any fighter retires who did or could, impact the title picture.

It has to be said though what I'd miss of Deontay, is more what he could have been/done, rather than he is/what he's done. I guess his handlers are well aware that as well as having the capacity to beat anyone, and I do mean anyone, he also has a vulnerability that says he could lose at any time to any genuine contender. That's why they wrap him in cotton wool which ironically is why his development has pretty much stalled..

[Onetimeonly]

that's the stuff.

[TheBeast]

Saturday 27, October 2018
Arena Armeec, Sofia, Bulgaria
promoter Epic Sports - John Wirt, Hennessy Sports - Mick Hennessy, Epic Sports and Entertainment - Ivaylo Gotzev
matchmaker Vasko Vasilev



Tervel Pulev 11 0 0
vs
Leonardo Damian Bruzzese 19 5 0
vacant EBU European Cruiserweight Title

Tervel won by Stoppage




FULL CARD HIGHLIGHTS HERE:
http://www.the13thround.com/phpBB2/view ... 8&t=127996

ENJOY!!

[Ilya Muromets]

That big chin cushion beard that Hughie was wearing. They never allowed that before in boxing. Why are they allowing it now, and now that they are allowing it why not show up with a giant mountain man beard and wild man of Borneo hair-do and protect your whole head and face from punches while you're at it?

Next season's boxing fashion -

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/b ... of-borneo/

[candyslim]

I do remember there used to be rules against it in boxing. How much protection it gives the boxer as a cushioning effect is debatable, but for those who scoff I'd say isn't it for protective purposes that we humans (start out) with hair on our heads ?

I guess even if a Hughie type beard doesn't give much more than minimal dampening effect on punches it certainly won't have an opposite and negative effect.

[ron4972]

Good performance by Pulev. I was impressed. He didn't show any ring rust, IMO. For the most part, Pulev's defense neutralized Fury's jab. Pulev also used his own jab efficiently, and occasionally scored with heavy power punches.

I don't think that Pulev could beat Joshua, Wilder, Fury, or Povetkin. But he may be the best heavyweight out there aside from those four..

[ValMar]

Good performance by Pulev. I was impressed. He didn't show any ring rust, IMO. For the most part, Pulev's defense neutralized Fury's jab. Pulev also used his own jab efficiently, and occasionally scored with heavy power punches.

I don't think that Pulev could beat Joshua, Wilder, Fury, or Povetkin. But he may be the best heavyweight out there aside from those four..

Ortiz, Whyte, Miller and Parker would defeat him (HW Usyk, too).

50/50 fights : Breazeale, Bellew (HW Gassiev, too).

[jamamb]

not sure about parker, parker hasnt impressed me at all and he struggled more with hughie then pulev did and i had him losing to ruiz. pulev at least was finding hughie with some good jabs and sliced him up, but parker hardly landed anything and looked a lot more limited imo

pulev i would make favourite over bellew and breazelae, and gassievs totally unproven at hw so far

[Ilya Muromets]

I do remember there used to be rules against it in boxing. How much protection it gives the boxer as a cushioning effect is debatable, but for those who scoff I'd say isn't it for protective purposes that we humans (start out) with hair on our heads ?

I guess even if a Hughie type beard doesn't give much more than minimal dampening effect on punches it certainly won't have an opposite and negative effect.

Protection and warmth. A beard gives much more protection against a direct blow than would a similar weight cushion because the hair points directly outwards and each hair acts as a spring.

[ValMar]

not sure about parker, parker hasnt impressed me at all and he struggled more with hughie then pulev did and i had him losing to ruiz. pulev at least was finding hughie with some good jabs and sliced him up, but parker hardly landed anything and looked a lot more limited imo

pulev i would make favourite over bellew and breazelae, and gassievs totally unproven at hw so far

Hughie had a cut against Pulev almost from the beginning, it should not be an excuse, but it is a very important factor.

[adislav123]

I'm sorry but a beard gives shit-protection against a slap applied by an infant not to talk of a punch by a heavyweight boxer... "each hair acts as a spring!!? I don't know what kind of steelwool stubble or barbwire beaver you're wearing but i can state as an absolute fact from "first face" - experience that facial hair cushions jack shit, zero getting whacked where it grows. It may technically have some cushioning effect if you measure the force taken away by the resistance of the beard mathematically but that would be a pretty minimal effect mattering definitely ZERO physically in a boxing match.

Hughie got that cut in training 4 weeks before the fight. They surgically sewed it, but it opened up again and got micro stitched like 2 weeks in. They tried to get a postponement on the fight but ibf didn't approve. He would've lost his eliminator for the mandatory spot had he pulled out, so they said fornicate it ! Let's push through with it! No excuse, but such a deep fornicating cut surely isn't performance enhancing. They got the bleeding under control fine & it's hypothetically to say he would've done better without it but i definitely think so. To what degree, is the question.

[Ilya Muromets]

I'm sorry but a beard gives shit-protection against a slap applied by an infant not to talk of a punch by a heavyweight boxer... "each hair acts as a spring!!? I don't know what kind of steelwool stubble or barbwire beaver you're wearing but i can state as an absolute fact from "first face" - experience that facial hair cushions jack poo, zero getting whacked where it grows. It may technically have some cushioning effect if you measure the force taken away by the resistance of the beard mathematically but that would be a pretty minimal effect mattering definitely ZERO physically in a boxing match.

...

Huh? Plain common sense should tell you that cushions cushion, shouldn't it? In a cushion filled with fibers, like a boxing glove for example, the fibers will tend to get knocked sideways which affords less cushioning effect than a beard where the hairs grow straight out. Beards were never allowed in boxing before. I don't think they should be allowed now.

[Ilya Muromets]

not sure about parker, parker hasnt impressed me at all and he struggled more with hughie then pulev did and i had him losing to ruiz. pulev at least was finding hughie with some good jabs and sliced him up, but parker hardly landed anything and looked a lot more limited imo

pulev i would make favourite over bellew and breazelae, and gassievs totally unproven at hw so far

Hughie had a cut against Pulev almost from the beginning, it should not be an excuse, but it is a very important factor.

It looked like fight might have been over before it hardly even started. Fury's corner did an amazing job closing that cut.