The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
What do you think ?
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dagilechia
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Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
between 60-40 and 2/3-1/3 but Wilder will probably lose his belt (he should have lost it already a month ago) in the next fight so between 75-25 and 80-20
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Onetimeonly
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Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
I think we've done this thread a million times. My answer is always 60/40 Joshua.
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tiny_acres
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Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
At least a million times. I don't care about how much they make but I wouldn't sign for a flat fee. Too much upside on this fightOnetimeonly wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 09:17 I think we've done this thread a million times. My answer is always 60/40 Joshua.
Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
Yes, but situation has changed, the match Wilder-Fury happened.tiny_acres wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 11:44At least a million times. I don't care about how much they make but I wouldn't sign for a flat fee. Too much upside on this fightOnetimeonly wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 09:17 I think we've done this thread a million times. My answer is always 60/40 Joshua.
The flat fee is not fair, absolutely, and Wilder shouldn't accept it.
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Ruthless-RKO
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Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
Yeh he should have probably lost that on points, but any other ref and it would have been a Wilder KO12.. let’s be honest. Everyone at home probably thought it was over at that point.dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 06:53 between 60-40 and 2/3-1/3 but Wilder will probably lose his belt (he should have lost it already a month ago) in the next fight so between 75-25 and 80-20
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Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
then it would be a bad ref decision.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:18Yeh he should have probably lost that on points, but any other ref and it would have been a Wilder KO12.. let’s be honest. Everyone at home probably thought it was over at that point.dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 06:53 between 60-40 and 2/3-1/3 but Wilder will probably lose his belt (he should have lost it already a month ago) in the next fight so between 75-25 and 80-20
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Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
No one would have argued if it was stopped tbh. But now that we have seen the outcome and seen what happened after, we’re all rightly praising Reiss.dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:19then it would be a bad ref decision.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:18Yeh he should have probably lost that on points, but any other ref and it would have been a Wilder KO12.. let’s be honest. Everyone at home probably thought it was over at that point.dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 06:53 between 60-40 and 2/3-1/3 but Wilder will probably lose his belt (he should have lost it already a month ago) in the next fight so between 75-25 and 80-20
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Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
Ref did a good job but in fact he did nothing special, he did what he had to do. It was the last round and the fighter that was down was ahead on the cards, he should give him a chance and he did, anything other than that would be a bad decision.
btw i am against waving off the fight before the 10 count. i think the 10 count should be mandatory, even when it's obvious that the fighter is knocked out and will not get up to continue.
btw i am against waving off the fight before the 10 count. i think the 10 count should be mandatory, even when it's obvious that the fighter is knocked out and will not get up to continue.
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dagilechia
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Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
in Fury vs Wilder and for example Glowacki vs Huck refs did what they should always do.
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Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
Unless they’re clearly out on their feet or ko’d unconscious.dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:24
btw i am against waving off the fight before the 10 count. i think the 10 count should be mandatory, even when it's obvious that the fighter is knocked out and will not get up to continue.
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Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
imo even then, just for the record, just for no controversy. knocked down = 10 count, always (except when fighter obviously needs immediate medical attention)Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:28Unless they’re clearly out on their feet or ko’d unconscious.dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:24
btw i am against waving off the fight before the 10 count. i think the 10 count should be mandatory, even when it's obvious that the fighter is knocked out and will not get up to continue.
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Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
Like Lucas Browne against Whyte?dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:37imo even then, just for the record, just for no controversy. knocked down = 10 count, always (except when fighter obviously needs immediate medical attention)Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:28Unless they’re clearly out on their feet or ko’d unconscious.dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:24
btw i am against waving off the fight before the 10 count. i think the 10 count should be mandatory, even when it's obvious that the fighter is knocked out and will not get up to continue.
What would you have done for Whyte-Chisora?
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dagilechia
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Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
well, maybe you are right, when fighter is 100% unconscious, not even moving, then it should be waved off, but sometimes fighters are counted even when they're knocked out cold and unconsciuos, like Szpilka was vs Wilder it was like 5 or 6 count, and thats what i would do for Whyte ChisoraRuthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:44Like Lucas Browne against Whyte?dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:37imo even then, just for the record, just for no controversy. knocked down = 10 count, always (except when fighter obviously needs immediate medical attention)Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:28
Unless they’re clearly out on their feet or ko’d unconscious.
What would you have done for Whyte-Chisora?
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Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
Those counts get waived off halfway through.dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:55well, maybe you are right, when fighter is 100% unconscious, not even moving, then it should be waved off, but sometimes fighters are counted even when they're knocked out cold and unconsciuos, like Szpilka was vs WilderRuthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:44Like Lucas Browne against Whyte?dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:37
imo even then, just for the record, just for no controversy. knocked down = 10 count, always (except when fighter obviously needs immediate medical attention)
What would you have done for Whyte-Chisora?
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Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
yes, yes, i edited my post, i forgot to add thatRuthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:56Those counts get waived off halfway through.dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:55well, maybe you are right, when fighter is 100% unconscious, not even moving, then it should be waved off, but sometimes fighters are counted even when they're knocked out cold and unconsciuos, like Szpilka was vs WilderRuthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:44
Like Lucas Browne against Whyte?
What would you have done for Whyte-Chisora?
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Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
No.dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:37imo even then, just for the record, just for no controversy. knocked down = 10 count, always (except when fighter obviously needs immediate medical attention)Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:28Unless they’re clearly out on their feet or ko’d unconscious.dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:24
btw i am against waving off the fight before the 10 count. i think the 10 count should be mandatory, even when it's obvious that the fighter is knocked out and will not get up to continue.
This is a sport where serious injury or death occurs far too often. I'd rather a ref error in stopping a fight a tad too soon than to see a tragedy
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Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
I agree totally unfairValMar wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 11:52Yes, but situation has changed, the match Wilder-Fury happened.tiny_acres wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 11:44At least a million times. I don't care about how much they make but I wouldn't sign for a flat fee. Too much upside on this fightOnetimeonly wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 09:17 I think we've done this thread a million times. My answer is always 60/40 Joshua.
The flat fee is not fair, absolutely, and Wilder shouldn't accept it.
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dagilechia
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Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
but those tragedies almost never happen after a one punch KO or just a KO, usually they happen after a war when fighters show granite chins and after beatings on the ropestiny_acres wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:57No.dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:37imo even then, just for the record, just for no controversy. knocked down = 10 count, always (except when fighter obviously needs immediate medical attention)Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:28
Unless they’re clearly out on their feet or ko’d unconscious.
This is a sport where serious injury or death occurs far too often. I'd rather a ref error in stopping a fight a tad too soon than to see a tragedy
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Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
I still stick to my opinion.dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:59but those tragedies almost never happen after a one punch KO or just a KO, usually they happen after a war when fighters show granite chins and after beatings on the ropestiny_acres wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:57No.dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:37
imo even then, just for the record, just for no controversy. knocked down = 10 count, always (except when fighter obviously needs immediate medical attention)
This is a sport where serious injury or death occurs far too often. I'd rather a ref error in stopping a fight a tad too soon than to see a tragedy
I love this sport more than any other sport and admire and respect each athlete that risks their life.
But I do not want to see Any One end a career or a life to satisfy fans thirst for blood
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dagilechia
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Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
i get your point, i do not want to see another McClellan, Abdusalamov, Colon or Stevenson or any brain damages/deaths in the ring too, unfortunately this will happen as long as boxing will existtiny_acres wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 13:01I still stick to my opinion.dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:59but those tragedies almost never happen after a one punch KO or just a KO, usually they happen after a war when fighters show granite chins and after beatings on the ropestiny_acres wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:57
No.
This is a sport where serious injury or death occurs far too often. I'd rather a ref error in stopping a fight a tad too soon than to see a tragedy
I love this sport more than any other sport and admire and respect each athlete that risks their life.
But I do not want to see Any One end a career or a life to satisfy fans thirst for blood
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tiny_acres
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Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
Yes sir I agree. Injuries and death are inevitabledagilechia wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 13:04i get your point, i do not want to see another McClellan, Abdusalamov, Colon or Stevenson or any brain damages/deaths in the ring too, unfortunately this will happen as long as boxing will existtiny_acres wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 13:01I still stick to my opinion.dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:59
but those tragedies almost never happen after a one punch KO or just a KO, usually they happen after a war when fighters show granite chins and after beatings on the ropes
I love this sport more than any other sport and admire and respect each athlete that risks their life.
But I do not want to see Any One end a career or a life to satisfy fans thirst for blood![]()
Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
I agree.tiny_acres wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 13:01I still stick to my opinion.dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:59but those tragedies almost never happen after a one punch KO or just a KO, usually they happen after a war when fighters show granite chins and after beatings on the ropestiny_acres wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 12:57
No.
This is a sport where serious injury or death occurs far too often. I'd rather a ref error in stopping a fight a tad too soon than to see a tragedy
I love this sport more than any other sport and admire and respect each athlete that risks their life.
But I do not want to see Any One end a career or a life to satisfy fans thirst for blood
Re: The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?
I've changed my view since the last of these polls. After Fury/Wilder, AJ/Wilder should be 60-40. AJ is the complete fighter here and has more or less dominated his opposition. PS: Should also have rematch clause.