Canelo's opponent for September ?

[jamamb]

good fighter but hardly anyone gives a sh!t about him, just a funny argument to make

[ironbeard]

Canelo is known the world over. Was just treated like royalty when he vacationed in Europe.

Biggest PPV star in boxing.

To deny his staggering impact and star power in the sport is to wallow in the muck of jealousy and envy.

Yes gentleman, the undisputed Face of Boxing.

Well, we know where someone’s face is planted.

[ironbeard]

I would like to see Gingerhead v Andrade. I admit that I have been paying 0 attention to “the Face of Boxing.” It is mid July. Is he even fighting a living being in September?

[caldo2025]

I don't see DAZN ordering Golovkin to get into the ring with anyone more dangerous than Rolls.

So why would they make demands on its company star and risk GBP taking a walk from the company in a few years.

Nothing wrong with Andrade who is an unbeaten champion. If you don't care for his style, so what? Not everyone is a one dimensional slugger.

Plenty folks claim that they didn't care for Mayweather's style either, yet he is the most watched PPV fighter in history.

Talent trumps style. People will tune in to see a talented fighter no matter how he fights.

DAZN is ordering Golovkin to fight Canelo who is slightly more dangerous than Rolls.

Regarding Andrade's "talent", you are very wrong. Fans don't want to see runners. Nobody wanted to see Rigo or Lara, so they are trying to change their styles to become more appealing. Ward couldn't draw. Mayweather became a huge draw due to multiple factors. First of all, he was an exciting fighter at lower weight and had victories (including the controversial one over Castillo) over well known Mexicans attracting the huge Mexican audience who started tuning up hoping to see him beaten. And of course he skillfully created other controversies and publicity boosters helping his popularity.

I don’t think that we can continue to put Lara in that box as a runner or unentertaining fighter. He’s now been in a few wars, 2 in his last 2 fights. I think the beatings that he’s been withstanding in the ring trying to make fights more fan friendly afford him to be plucked out of that list of duds now. I think that he deserves better for his efforts. But keep that punk Rigo in that bucket of crap fighters because I have zero interest in seeing that quitter fill my tv screen again.

[gilgamesh]

Lara and Rigondeaux aren't exactly becoming more exciting fighters to watch by choice. They're becoming more exciting to watch because they're getting older, and their legs don't work for them to spend the whole fight on the move like they used to. They have no choice, but to engage more.

[lazboy]

Lara and Rigondeaux aren't exactly becoming more exciting fighters to watch by choice. They're becoming more exciting to watch because they're getting older, and their legs don't work for them to spend the whole fight on the move like they used to. They have no choice, but to engage more.

Spot on. Additionally, I’d say Hurds style/pressure essentially forced Lara to fight in attempt to get him off. Although no doubt Lara also showed a lot of heart in that contest and didn’t quit when the going got tough like Rigo with his bruised hand.

[gilgamesh]

Lara and Rigondeaux aren't exactly becoming more exciting fighters to watch by choice. They're becoming more exciting to watch because they're getting older, and their legs don't work for them to spend the whole fight on the move like they used to. They have no choice, but to engage more.

Spot on. Additionally, I’d say Hurds style/pressure essentially forced Lara to fight in attempt to get him off. Although no doubt Lara also showed a lot of heart in that contest and didn’t quit when the going got tough like Rigo with his bruised hand.

I'm not gonna fault Rigo for packing it in. He was completely shut out, and he was just the next in line to quit against Loma at that point. Doubtful he had a bruised hand, but bruised pride, and he didn't feel like being a punching bag for another 5 rounds.

I'm more annoyed at the fact that the referee royally f*cked over his opponent in his last contest.

[SenorPipino]

good fighter but hardly anyone gives a sh!t about him, just a funny argument to make

The money Canelo's earned (those record television contracts aren't handed out to everyone) and the PPV numbers he racked up kinda makes a mockery of you're opinion.

Apparently the world gives a huge sh!t about him or he wouldn't be in the lofty position he's at.

[jamamb]

good fighter but hardly anyone gives a sh!t about him, just a funny argument to make

The money Canelo's earned (those record television contracts aren't handed out to everyone) and the PPV numbers he racked up kinda makes a mockery of you're opinion.

Apparently the world gives a huge sh!t about him or he wouldn't be in the lofty position he's at.

lol im talking about andrade smart guy , i know you have a hard on for canelo though and try to get as much talk in about how great he is as u can

[boxing_rocks]

The money Canelo's earned (those record television contracts aren't handed out to everyone) and the PPV numbers he racked up kinda makes a mockery of you're opinion.

Apparently the world gives a huge sh!t about him or he wouldn't be in the lofty position he's at.

lol im talking about andrade smart guy , i know you have a hard on for canelo though and try to get as much talk in about how great he is as u can

Pipi is a Mexican dagilechia. Luckily for him, Canelo is by far better than any Polish boxer.

[lazboy]

Spot on. Additionally, I’d say Hurds style/pressure essentially forced Lara to fight in attempt to get him off. Although no doubt Lara also showed a lot of heart in that contest and didn’t quit when the going got tough like Rigo with his bruised hand.

I'm not gonna fault Rigo for packing it in. He was completely shut out, and he was just the next in line to quit against Loma at that point. Doubtful he had a bruised hand, but bruised pride, and he didn't feel like being a punching bag for another 5 rounds.

I'm more annoyed at the fact that the referee royally f*cked over his opponent in his last contest.

I don't agree, he should be critized. This was a pay per view fight. Yes he was being outclassed, yes he was the smaller man, but to 'pack it in' at such a time when he had received very little physical punishment.

He deserves to be called a quitter. He met someone for the first time who had a better boxing ability then himself and he stopped trying. Whereby the invincible Lomachenko was dropped in his previous fight. Most fights these days are mismatches, Rigo has steam rolled numerous opponents due to his superior skills yet most of them have shown far more heart than he did.

Just like his opponents, he found himself with some adversity and unlike the majority of his opponents, Quit.

He's a boring fighter, a dirty fighter and a quitter. I'm hoping he doesnt get another prime time opportunity.

[gilgamesh]

I'm not gonna fault Rigo for packing it in. He was completely shut out, and he was just the next in line to quit against Loma at that point. Doubtful he had a bruised hand, but bruised pride, and he didn't feel like being a punching bag for another 5 rounds.

I'm more annoyed at the fact that the referee royally f*cked over his opponent in his last contest.

I don't agree, he should be critized. This was a pay per view fight. Yes he was being outclassed, yes he was the smaller man, but to 'pack it in' at such a time when he had received very little physical punishment.

He deserves to be called a quitter. He met someone for the first time who had a better boxing ability then himself and he stopped trying. Whereby the invincible Lomachenko was dropped in his previous fight. Most fights these days are mismatches, Rigo has steam rolled numerous opponents due to his superior skills yet most of them have shown far more heart than he did.

Just like his opponents, he found himself with some adversity and unlike the majority of his opponents, Quit.

He's a boring fighter, a dirty fighter and a quitter. I'm hoping he doesnt get another prime time opportunity.

It wasn't a PPV fight. It was on ESPN, and he won't get another Prime Time opportunity because there isn't one for him to get. There's no marquee guy to match him against, and whenever Rey Vargas or whoever beats him he'll be old news. Even now he's just an older guy with a name that they're looking for the right guy to pad their record with.

[lazboy]

I don't agree, he should be critized. This was a pay per view fight. Yes he was being outclassed, yes he was the smaller man, but to 'pack it in' at such a time when he had received very little physical punishment.

He deserves to be called a quitter. He met someone for the first time who had a better boxing ability then himself and he stopped trying. Whereby the invincible Lomachenko was dropped in his previous fight. Most fights these days are mismatches, Rigo has steam rolled numerous opponents due to his superior skills yet most of them have shown far more heart than he did.

Just like his opponents, he found himself with some adversity and unlike the majority of his opponents, Quit.

He's a boring fighter, a dirty fighter and a quitter. I'm hoping he doesnt get another prime time opportunity.

It wasn't a PPV fight. It was on ESPN, and he won't get another Prime Time opportunity because there isn't one for him to get. There's no marquee guy to match him against, and whenever Rey Vargas or whoever beats him he'll be old news. Even now he's just an older guy with a name that they're looking for the right guy to pad their record with.

[Enlightened-One]

What would your thoughts be if Gennadiy Golovkin decides to face Jaime Munguia next, instead of Sergey Derevyanchenko?

I’ll be utterly appalled if Canelo chooses to face Jaime Munguia, instead of the likes of Kovalev, Golovkin, Derevyanchenko or Andrade next.

I’d be thrilled to see Canelo face Kovalev.

[SenorPipino]

I don't have a problem with Canelo facing anyone on that bucket list. Even Derevyenchenko.

All are highly anticipated matchups.

My preference still remains Andrade so that Canelo accomplishes the feat of being the first undisputed Mexican world middleweight champion.

He can then throw away each and every belt once he achieves that historical distinction to signal his rejection of any further sanctioning body mandates.

I'd like to see a Canelo-Munguia bout marinate for at least another year, but it may nevertheless be positioned to set off non-stop fireworks on the upcoming Mexican Independence Day holiday.

[gilgamesh]

I frankly don't give a damn if Canelo fights a straight up bum in his next fight. Hell the guy has fought Golovkin twice, Danny Jacobs, A Super Middleweight...all kinds of tough guys lately. Hell if anybody has earned a soft opponent in the sport it'd be him, and frankly Munguia or Bivol or anyone I've heard mentioned as a potential opponent for him ain't all that soft.

[SenorPipino]

I frankly don't give a damn if Canelo fights a straight up bum in his next fight. Hell the guy has fought Golovkin twice, Danny Jacobs, A Super Middleweight...all kinds of tough guys lately. Hell if anybody has earned a soft opponent in the sport it'd be him, and frankly Munguia or Bivol or anyone I've heard mentioned as a potential opponent for him ain't all that soft.

Don't tell that to some of the guys here.

They like to pretend that Canelo only fights bums and ducks legitimate threats.

[ValMar]

If I could choose - Andrade first, it is a great achievement to be an udisputed champion.

After Andrade, Canelo should move up at SMW, and forget the MW.

If he wants to continue his career at LHW, let he do it, but without soft-matching and catch-weights.

[gilgamesh]

If I could choose - Andrade first, it is a great achievement to be an udisputed champion.

After Andrade, Canelo should move up at SMW, and forget the MW.

If he wants to continue his career at LHW, let he do it, but without soft-matching and catch-weights.

If you beat the #1 guy you're already undisputed. Having all the paper belts that one of them will then proceed to strip you of because you didn't fight the #15 ranked guy who is inexplicably their mandatory needs to stop being held up as somehow important. The belts need to stop being given any respect.

[ValMar]

If I could choose - Andrade first, it is a great achievement to be an udisputed champion.

After Andrade, Canelo should move up at SMW, and forget the MW.

If he wants to continue his career at LHW, let he do it, but without soft-matching and catch-weights.

If you beat the #1 guy you're already undisputed. Having all the paper belts that one of them will then proceed to strip you of because you didn't fight the #15 ranked guy who is inexplicably their mandatory needs to stop being held up as somehow important. The belts need to stop being given any respect.

I may agree, partly. In the perfect world - there is one champion per division. Period.

[boxing_rocks]

If I could choose - Andrade first, it is a great achievement to be an udisputed champion.

After Andrade, Canelo should move up at SMW, and forget the MW.

If he wants to continue his career at LHW, let he do it, but without soft-matching and catch-weights.

If you beat the #1 guy you're already undisputed. Having all the paper belts that one of them will then proceed to strip you of because you didn't fight the #15 ranked guy who is inexplicably their mandatory needs to stop being held up as somehow important. The belts need to stop being given any respect.

Except he clearly lost to the #1 guy in their first fight and had a very close second one where only tiny minority of experts and boxers had him winning.

[Duran1970]

I frankly don't give a damn if Canelo fights a straight up bum in his next fight. Hell the guy has fought Golovkin twice, Danny Jacobs, A Super Middleweight...all kinds of tough guys lately. Hell if anybody has earned a soft opponent in the sport it'd be him, and frankly Munguia or Bivol or anyone I've heard mentioned as a potential opponent for him ain't all that soft.

All kinds of tough guys????
Chavez Jr ?
Fielding?
Amir freakin Khan?

[gilgamesh]

If you beat the #1 guy you're already undisputed. Having all the paper belts that one of them will then proceed to strip you of because you didn't fight the #15 ranked guy who is inexplicably their mandatory needs to stop being held up as somehow important. The belts need to stop being given any respect.

Except he clearly lost to the #1 guy in their first fight and had a very close second one where only tiny minority of experts and boxers had him winning.

I'm aware of all that. I thought he lost both fights personally, but that's not exactly the point I was making here. I wasn't debating that specific result, I was debating the idea of multiple champions in each weight class in general.

We need a lot less weight classes too for that matter, but one thing at a time.

[gilgamesh]

I frankly don't give a damn if Canelo fights a straight up bum in his next fight. Hell the guy has fought Golovkin twice, Danny Jacobs, A Super Middleweight...all kinds of tough guys lately. Hell if anybody has earned a soft opponent in the sport it'd be him, and frankly Munguia or Bivol or anyone I've heard mentioned as a potential opponent for him ain't all that soft.

All kinds of tough guys????
Chavez Jr ?
Fielding?
Amir freakin Khan?

Mayweather
Lara
Golovkin (2x)
Danny Jacobs

I'm not Canelo's biggest fan by any means, but to pretend he hasn't fought tough competition is just flat out stupid.

[Duran1970]

Opponents"lately".