Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua 2 - December 7, 2019

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Anyone else find it strange Ruiz hasn’t posted anything on his social media? To announce the fight?

I believe it will be officially announced on Monday.

Let’s not forget Ruiz has been at Tyson’s ranch recently, so he might be bit outta it right now.

[Thomastearns]

He’s just gonna box behind his jab. Keep a distance with the jab. He’s gonna box how he did against Parker. Or how Lewis boxed against Tua. Play it safe and regain belts.

Correct.

Yes, all good news for Joshua.

He’ll be more comfortable in a Muslim country than Ruiz and will definitely start as the ‘A side.

Not sure why Ruiz is going along with all this.
Oh wait! Did someone mention an 8 figure purse for Andy?

https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2019/08 ... ua-purses/

[polecateddy]

Even the great Lennox Lewis looked a bit tentative and unsure coming back after Oliver McCall against Aussie bodybuilder Justin Fortune. I think most sensible pundits see this as a fairly over-optimistic rematch, especially considering Joshua looked so out of sorts mentally. I see Joshua getting dropped multiple times and doing a no mas in this one! 6 rounds tops.

[Paci]

Im going with that he regroups and gets the belts back then we get best of 3.

Then again Ruiz might keep the belts, then it is all about how AJ loses.

Going with AJ, in 11th

[lazboy]

I agree with the people who are saying he is going to get behind his jab and put on a Parker level performance.

Even though AJ started late in boxing - not having those naturally smooth and ingrained skills, and many people have been aware of his flaws prior to this fight.....lets not go into the underrating territory. Surely AJ has enough sense to hold his own, acting purely defensive.

If he's negative, doesn't engage, back peddles, ect. I'm predicting he will survive. And if his survives, my thought is he'll get the decision or a draw. If hes lucky, Ruiz will get tired or frustrated following him but I don't see AJ going into seek and destroy mode as every time he did so in the original he was punished.

A negative AJ, who survives, and gets a controversial decision or draw is my prediction.

[Quantrax]

I've followed Ruiz since his early days as a pro and I've always wanted to see him get his weight down a level further. His lightest ever weight in the ring is 246 but I'd love to see him around 235, so that he can maintain his speed, movement and workfare, which are important skills for the Latino style. He debuted at 297 so he's done well to lose as much as he has but he's never taken the final step.

His coaches say they don't want him below 250 because he's lose strength but surely it can't be good when a fighter is visible carrying rolls of fat.

[Bard of Boxrec]

AJ by decision or maybe late stoppage.

[ironbeard]

Too early to tell.

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Wonder who will even be there.

[dagilechia]

Joshua will be heavily favoured in a muslim Country

[ironbeard]

Joshua will be heavily favoured in a muslim Country

No more heavily favored than if it was to be in Cardiff.

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Was a strange shot yesterday presser. Just spent the time justifying Saudi being the host. No questions from anyone in the audience.

He said there will be city pressers in September. Saudi, London and New York I think.

[Bandog]

Anyone else find it strange Ruiz hasn’t posted anything on his social media? To announce the fight?

I believe it will be officially announced on Monday.

Let’s not forget Ruiz has been at Tyson’s ranch recently, so he might be bit outta it right now.

Ruiz being quiet tells me that he has agreed to fight, but not the purse split. Eddie maybe have jumped the gun saying contracts have been signed, who knows. He reminds me of a combination of Amir Khan and Bob Arum. Dishonestly delusional, but can be a smart businessman too.
I've read things like Ruiz is getting $9 million and Joshua $60-90 million? If that is true, Ruiz won't agree to it. He at least deserves a 50-50 since he knocked out Joshua, and holds the belts. One could say the fight was a mismatch, in favor of Ruiz!

[margaret thatcher]

Joshua will be heavily favoured in a muslim Country

Why?

[dagilechia]

Joshua will be heavily favoured in a muslim Country

Why?

He is known for being a fan of islam, he was visiting mosques and speaking with kind and respect about this religion, if he Still didn't converted i guess he will.

[ironbeard]

Why?

He is known for being a fan of islam, he was visiting mosques and speaking with kind and respect about this religion, if he Still didn't converted i guess he will.

. . . in Wahhabiland or be less his head.

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Anyone else find it strange Ruiz hasn’t posted anything on his social media? To announce the fight?

I believe it will be officially announced on Monday.

Let’s not forget Ruiz has been at Tyson’s ranch recently, so he might be bit outta it right now.

Ruiz being quiet tells me that he has agreed to fight, but not the purse split. Eddie maybe have jumped the gun saying contracts have been signed, who knows. He reminds me of a combination of Amir Khan and Bob Arum. Dishonestly delusional, but can be a smart businessman too.
I've read things like Ruiz is getting $9 million and Joshua $60-90 million? If that is true, Ruiz won't agree to it. He at least deserves a 50-50 since he knocked out Joshua, and holds the belts. One could say the fight was a mismatch, in favor of Ruiz!

Ruiz $9m and AJ $30m-$40m..

[Bandog]

Ruiz being quiet tells me that he has agreed to fight, but not the purse split. Eddie maybe have jumped the gun saying contracts have been signed, who knows. He reminds me of a combination of Amir Khan and Bob Arum. Dishonestly delusional, but can be a smart businessman too.
I've read things like Ruiz is getting $9 million and Joshua $60-90 million? If that is true, Ruiz won't agree to it. He at least deserves a 50-50 since he knocked out Joshua, and holds the belts. One could say the fight was a mismatch, in favor of Ruiz!

Ruiz $9m and AJ $30m-$40m..

So now the negotiating should start. No way should Ruiz get such a small percentage considering he knocked AJ out. Draw in the UK, yes AJ is big, but Saudi Arabia, who knows. AJ being the bigger draw is a given, but when you are facing an opponent that KO'd you a little more than halfway through the fight you have to give a fair percentage. We'll here it is Ruiz's highest payday, blah blah, but that doesn't matter when you are in his position holding multiple belts. Imo, they need to at least double Ruiz's offer if it is only $9 million. Ruiz is much better off with a % split than a flat fee, especially if it ends up bringing close to $100 million total.

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Ruiz $9m and AJ $30m-$40m..

So now the negotiating should start. No way should Ruiz get such a small percentage considering he knocked AJ out. Draw in the UK, yes AJ is big, but Saudi Arabia, who knows. AJ being the bigger draw is a given, but when you are facing an opponent that KO'd you a little more than halfway through the fight you have to give a fair percentage. We'll here it is Ruiz's highest payday, blah blah, but that doesn't matter when you are in his position holding multiple belts. Imo, they need to at least double Ruiz's offer if it is only $9 million. Ruiz is much better off with a % split than a flat fee, especially if it ends up bringing close to $100 million total.

Who knows. He might be getting some %.. but the $9m was on the first contract that Ruiz signed. “If he beats AJ, there will be a rematch and he will be guaranteed $9m.”

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[Enlightened-One]

I've followed Ruiz since his early days as a pro and I've always wanted to see him get his weight down a level further. His lightest ever weight in the ring is 246 but I'd love to see him around 235, so that he can maintain his speed, movement and workfare, which are important skills for the Latino style. He debuted at 297 so he's done well to lose as much as he has but he's never taken the final step.

His coaches say they don't want him below 250 because he's lose strength but surely it can't be good when a fighter is visible carrying rolls of fat.

A fighter should focus their efforts on attaining their physical athletic prime rather than focussing their efforts on achieving a certain aesthetic appearance.

Ruiz Jr. seemed far more overweight during his teenage years, so perhaps there are limits to how “ripped” he’s capable of becoming, and I’m guessing that it would be impossible for him to achieve a physique like the prime versions of Kenny Norton or Evander Holyfield.

To be fair, Andy Ruiz Jr’s engine seemed vastly superior than the bodybuilding physique of AJ... and that fact shouldn’t be underappreciated.

[Quantrax]

I've followed Ruiz since his early days as a pro and I've always wanted to see him get his weight down a level further. His lightest ever weight in the ring is 246 but I'd love to see him around 235, so that he can maintain his speed, movement and workfare, which are important skills for the Latino style. He debuted at 297 so he's done well to lose as much as he has but he's never taken the final step.

His coaches say they don't want him below 250 because he's lose strength but surely it can't be good when a fighter is visible carrying rolls of fat.

A fighter should focus their efforts on attaining their physical athletic prime rather than focussing their efforts on achieving a certain aesthetic appearance.

Ruiz Jr. seemed far more overweight during his teenage years, so perhaps there are limits to how “ripped” he’s capable of becoming, and I’m guessing that it would be impossible for him to achieve a physique like the prime versions of Kenny Norton or Evander Holyfield.

To be fair, Andy Ruiz Jr’s engine seemed vastly superior than the bodybuilding physique of AJ... and that fact shouldn’t be underappreciated.

I wasn't talking about aesthetics, in fact it's odd that you took that as the point I was making.

The point is that his stamina and agility would surely improve if he wasn't 20 pounds overweight.