Chris Arreola

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This has likely been discussed but stumbled across this interesting fact this morning

Chris Arroelas 1125 punches thrown in the Kownacki bout is the record for punches thrown in a Heavyweight bout in Computer boxes 34 year history

Firstly what amazes me is the fact at age 39 on the backend of his career Arreola who has been known to struggle with his conditioning for fights was able to let his hand go like that. Sure he lost the bout and didnt land a great % of those shots but there sheer fact he threw that many at this late stage of career is a surprise within itself.

Arreola is now a gate keeper should he continue and whilst I think it best he retired he may find bouts against the likes of Dubois, Joyce and the like provide him with 1-2 more nice pay days.
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Arreola has always had good stamina despite being a fatty, he'd thrown over 1000 punches in a fight even before that I think

Him vs Efe maybe
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Hes totally shot this just shows how pedestrian kownacki is

He went life and death with curtis harper. He was gifted a draw against kassi
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margaret thatcher wrote: 26 Apr 2020, 18:42 Arreola has always had good stamina despite being a fatty, he'd thrown over 1000 punches in a fight even before that I think

Him vs Efe maybe
I don't recall Arreola ever fighting Efe Ajagba. If he did I'd be surprised if he had the chance to throw 1000 punches.
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Nah think it was Manual Quezada, I meant I can see him fighting Efe when things getting rolling again
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margaret thatcher wrote: 26 Apr 2020, 23:44 Nah think it was Manual Quezada, I meant I can see him fighting Efe when things getting rolling again
Ahh. Yeah that'd be a reasonably decent move for Efe. It's a last a bit of a name to add to his ledger, and I don't imagine he'd have much trouble with him.
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The mentioned above comers like Dubois, Joyce and Ajagba will handle Arreola without any big problems. Arreola can bring some more action in fights against the likes of Chisora or Dawejko.
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His punch output is very interesting. I wonder if he uses the aerobic system rather than the anaerobic system. In other words, is he using slower twitch muscles? Which don’t have the effect of lactic acid build up, allowing him to keep throwing.
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Kownacki is atrocious.
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diddy wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 13:25 Kownacki is atrocious.
I enjoy Kownacki's fights. People were out of their minds if they ever expected truly big things for him. I saw him for what he was the first time I ever saw him. An exciting brawler, who comes to fight, and makes for exciting fights, and is too fat, undisciplined and unrefined to have a snowball's chance in hell against the guys at the top.

I still look forward to watching him fight many more times personally. He's a fine gatekeeper.
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DrDuke wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 02:44 The mentioned above comers like Dubois, Joyce and Ajagba will handle Arreola without any big problems. Arreola can bring some more action in fights against the likes of Chisora or Dawejko.
Not sure guys like Slow Joe and Efe are any better than Chis atm tbh
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Joyce would definitely beat Arreola. Efe probably would as well but he’s got further to go than Joyce at this point.
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Wouldn't surprise me at all if Chis beat Joyce or Efe
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margaret thatcher wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 16:04
DrDuke wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 02:44 The mentioned above comers like Dubois, Joyce and Ajagba will handle Arreola without any big problems. Arreola can bring some more action in fights against the likes of Chisora or Dawejko.
Not sure guys like Slow Joe and Efe are any better than Chis atm tbh
Really? Well, I mean, at least they look better than Kownacki, who dealed with Arreola without big troubles.
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CHIS

Chisora

Not Chris

I don't know why you put Chisora alongside Dawjeko, he's way way better and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he beat the guys in your 'superior' group
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margaret thatcher wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 17:25 CHIS

Chisora

Not Chris

I don't know why you put Chisora alongside Dawjeko, he's way way better and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he beat the guys in your 'superior' group
Oh, Chisora. Well, I didn't want to equal Chisora and Dawejko, I've just put the two random gatekeepers, which came to my mind. My point was that Arreola is a gatekeeper as well, so for a good showdown he gotta fight someone of the same caliber. But, yeah, Chisora is better than probably any other today's gatekeeper.
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Chis loses mainly to top opposition, the only legit loss to non top opponent was Kaybel and even that was close

I don't really see Efe and Joyce as being beyond him, he could beat Raz Cojanu and this current Jennings too, and them as well
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margaret thatcher wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 17:20 Wouldn't surprise me at all if Chis beat Joyce or Efe
Are you serious ? Maybe prime Chris arreolla had 50/50 chance.
Efe will WOOOOOPPP arreolla along your dumb ass outside the ring all night ...
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Dude getting put on his ass by Iago Kiladze and taking like 9 rounds to get Raz Cojanu out of there, not really in a position to laugh at Arreola as an opponent :lol:

I dont deny that hed beat Arreola, but it makes some sense for PBC to make it, PBC will certainly be looking to use Arreola again for someone
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Efe Ajagba wasn’t particularly impressive for his last three outings against Demirezen, Kiladze and Cojanu.

And Chris Arreola is fairly durable, moderately heavy handed and is a very busy fighter, though his form is inconsistent. On a good day he’s capable of posing a relatively tough challenge to any of today’s top heavyweights.

For sure, Ajagba is still learning his trade and will inevitably keep improving for the foreseeable future, but a bout against Arreola at this stage of his learning curve might be risky and a tad too early, even if the Nigerian emerges victorious.

And what I mean by that, is that if the bout is moderately competitive and goes the distance, it might tarnish Ajagba's credibility and reduce the hype and praise that has been lavished upon him.

Personally-speaking, if I was wearing Al Haymon’s shoes, I’d use Chris Arreola as Andy Ruiz Jr’s comeback opponent (both being durable fleshy Californian-Mexican heavyweights with crowd-pleasing fighting styles).

And I’d select an easier route for Ajagba to go down.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 29 Apr 2020, 10:02 Efe Ajagba wasn’t particularly impressive for his last three outings against Demirezen, Kiladze and Cojanu.

And Chris Arreola is fairly durable, moderately heavy handed and is a very busy fighter, though his form is inconsistent. On a good day he’s capable of posing a relatively tough challenge to any of today’s top heavyweights.

For sure, Ajagba is still learning his trade and will inevitably keep improving for the foreseeable future, but a bout against Arreola at this stage of his learning curve might be risky and a tad too early, even if the Nigerian emerges victorious.

And what I mean by that, is that if the bout is moderately competitive and goes the distance, it might tarnish Ajagba's credibility and reduce the hype and praise that has been lavished upon him.

Personally-speaking, if I was wearing Al Haymon’s shoes, I’d use Chris Arreola as Andy Ruiz Jr’s comeback opponent (both being durable fleshy Californian-Mexican heavyweights with crowd-pleasing fighting styles).

And I’d select an easier route for Ajagba to go down.

1-Demirezen: was undefeated and he is high caliber fighter and he needs strong american promotion behind him to get
him right fights to climb up the rating.

2-Kiladze: there was no drama in this fight, as Ajagba took him out in 5 rounds and he wasn't even slightly hurt and woke up and finished the job. He needs time time recover from Ajagba fight.

3-Cojanu: came in best shape of his life with 6 weeks training camp notice and coming of many experience fights before.
He fought back and with the kind of beating he could, you won't see him in the ring anytime soon. his face was smahed all over.

Meanwhile, Ajgabe face looked pretty fresh after all these fights and didn't looked bit tired. I feel most UK fans don't give Ajagba the credit he deserves. He will when he smash Daniel Dobious outside in.
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Boxtune wrote: 29 Apr 2020, 13:501-Demirezen: was undefeated and he is high caliber fighter and he needs strong american promotion behind him to get
him right fights to climb up the rating.

2-Kiladze: there was no drama in this fight, as Ajagba took him out in 5 rounds and he wasn't even slightly hurt and woke up and finished the job. He needs time time recover from Ajagba fight.

3-Cojanu: came in best shape of his life with 6 weeks training camp notice and coming of many experience fights before.
He fought back and with the kind of beating he could, you won't see him in the ring anytime soon. his face was smahed all over.

Meanwhile, Ajgabe face looked pretty fresh after all these fights and didn't looked bit tired. I feel most UK fans don't give Ajagba the credit he deserves. He will when he smash Daniel Dobious outside in.
We are two independently-minded human beings that are allowed to have different opinions.

I guess our opposing views may be caused by our personal expectations.

I just feel that Ajagba has the weight of expectations on him, because he’s received a lot of hype and praise recently.

And when I watch him fight, he just doesn’t seem overly-impressive to me.

And the main reason why I‘ve refrained from criticising him, is because I realise he’s a work-in-progress... a fighter with very little experience or accomplishments in either the pro or amateur ranks, coupled with several fairly obvious pugilistic flaws.

I’m not suggesting that Ajagba is rubbish, it’s just that he hasn’t done anything to justify the hype yet. And he seems to be near the beginning of a steep learning curve.

He’s still learning his trade.

In terms of heavyweight prospects, I think there are others (almost exclusively European), that I feel are more impressive and deserving of our attention than Ajagba currently is.

In a couple of years time, my opinion about Ajagba may change (if he’s able to continuously improve), but at the moment, I’ve removed him from my radar, because he hasn’t delivered a truly noteworthy performance yet.
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N2 Shape wrote: 26 Apr 2020, 18:09 This has likely been discussed but stumbled across this interesting fact this morning

Chris Arroelas 1125 punches thrown in the Kownacki bout is the record for punches thrown in a Heavyweight bout in Computer boxes 34 year history

Firstly what amazes me is the fact at age 39 on the backend of his career Arreola who has been known to struggle with his conditioning for fights was able to let his hand go like that. Sure he lost the bout and didnt land a great % of those shots but there sheer fact he threw that many at this late stage of career is a surprise within itself.

Arreola is now a gate keeper should he continue and whilst I think it best he retired he may find bouts against the likes of Dubois, Joyce and the like provide him with 1-2 more nice pay days.
Now I think back to Arreola's glory days I remember how he was seen as a genuine contender but I only really remember him sobbing and dropping f bombs all over the show when he got run over by Vitali and then outclassed by Adamek. Dougie Fischer was always on about how he thought Arreola would beat Haye, but when I look at the American blob's win column I don't know how Fischer ever came to that conclusion other than patriotism. He was solidly in the top 10 for a while though. He genuinely wore a weighted vest for the weigh in with Vitali so that every body would think he hadn't bothered to train properly. Then he took off his shirt to reveal the weighted vest hidden almost perfectly under his tits, rolls and folds.

Genius mind games.

Didn't he start out as a light heavyweight? I think he was the first of the newer generation of pizza gobbling fatass American heavyweights? A pioneer if you will.
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Chris has $3 Mil in the bank. If he's careful with that he'll have a fine and fun rest of his life.
Chris did give the best after fight interviews ever.
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snake33 wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 13:39 Chris has $3 Mil in the bank. If he's careful with that he'll have a fine and fun rest of his life.
Chris did give the best after fight interviews ever.
Term deposit 3% alone brings 93K annually on $3 mil.
That's nearly 8k month, doing nothing, sleeping at home.

But i'm surprised arreolla has just $3 mil only !!
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