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Anthony Joshua vs Joseph Parker
1: Joshua 10-9
2: Joshua 10-9
3: Parker 10-9
4: Joshua 10-9
5: Parker 10-9
6: Parker 10-9
7: Joshua 10-9
8: Joshua 10-9
9: Parker 10-9
10: Joshua 10-9
11: Joshua 10-9
12: Joshua 10-9
Total score: Joshua 116-112
A tactical match. Parker provided a solid effort, probably his best on a higher level, but Joshua generally was in control, he was more precise. The judges sucked, as they gave too wide scores. The ref sucked, as he was stepping in too early on many occasions.
1: Joshua 10-9
2: Joshua 10-9
3: Parker 10-9
4: Joshua 10-9
5: Parker 10-9
6: Parker 10-9
7: Joshua 10-9
8: Joshua 10-9
9: Parker 10-9
10: Joshua 10-9
11: Joshua 10-9
12: Joshua 10-9
Total score: Joshua 116-112
A tactical match. Parker provided a solid effort, probably his best on a higher level, but Joshua generally was in control, he was more precise. The judges sucked, as they gave too wide scores. The ref sucked, as he was stepping in too early on many occasions.
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scartissue
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I recently watched Frank Bruno v Carl 'The Truth' Williams and it was an OK heavyweight fight. This wasn't the same Williams who was duking it out with Larry Holmes a number of years earlier, but he still gave Bruno some exercise. No use running a card here. I gave Williams the 3rd round and a share of the 6th. The other seven to Bruno for an 89-83 scorecard through 9 completed rounds until Frank lowered the boom in the 10th. Not sure if the 10 point system was employed or the British scoring. I know Bruno fought his previous fight against Coetzer with a 10 point scoring, so I went with that. I should mention - although I've seen a good number of Bruno's bouts - how amazed I was at how dirty he fought, which wasn't necessary against this creaking version of Williams. From the first round it was holding and hitting, rabbit punching, low blows and use of the forearm, while referee Dave Parris barely threw out a few cautions. Bruno was better than that and British refereeing was better than that.
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Robert Helenius vs Dereck Chisora
1: Helenius 10-9
2: Helenius 10-9
3: Helenius 10-9
4: Chisora 10-9
5: Helenius 10-9
6: 10-10
7: Chisora 10-9
8: Chisora 10-9
9: Chisora 10-9
10: Chisora 10-9
11: Chisora 10-9
12: Chisora 10-9
Total score: Chisora 116-113
Chisora came out aggressive, but Helenius started the fight well, mostly neutralizing Chisora's aggression. Apparently, Helenius sustained an injury early in the fight, he became less confident after the 2nd round and was going more and more lethargic through the fight. Chisora was majorly outworking and outscoring Helenius in the second half of the bout, even despite the fact Chisora slowed down after a very intense start. Basically, Helenius is a boxer to deal with the Chisora type of fighters, but that night Robert wasn't stellar at all and was awarded a hometown decision.
1: Helenius 10-9
2: Helenius 10-9
3: Helenius 10-9
4: Chisora 10-9
5: Helenius 10-9
6: 10-10
7: Chisora 10-9
8: Chisora 10-9
9: Chisora 10-9
10: Chisora 10-9
11: Chisora 10-9
12: Chisora 10-9
Total score: Chisora 116-113
Chisora came out aggressive, but Helenius started the fight well, mostly neutralizing Chisora's aggression. Apparently, Helenius sustained an injury early in the fight, he became less confident after the 2nd round and was going more and more lethargic through the fight. Chisora was majorly outworking and outscoring Helenius in the second half of the bout, even despite the fact Chisora slowed down after a very intense start. Basically, Helenius is a boxer to deal with the Chisora type of fighters, but that night Robert wasn't stellar at all and was awarded a hometown decision.
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Kubrat Pulev vs Dereck Chisora
119-109
I gave Chisora only the 9th round. The Chisora card was a joke. Chisora had his moments, but those were just single episodes. Only the 9th was the round, where Chisora looked dominant for the majority of time. Pulev was in control for nearly all fight. He totally outjabbed Chisora, outworked and outscored him.
119-109
I gave Chisora only the 9th round. The Chisora card was a joke. Chisora had his moments, but those were just single episodes. Only the 9th was the round, where Chisora looked dominant for the majority of time. Pulev was in control for nearly all fight. He totally outjabbed Chisora, outworked and outscored him.
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scartissue
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I like Pulev. I like his style, but at his advanced age he has really wasted the last 4 years of his career.DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Aug 2020, 11:08 Kubrat Pulev vs Dereck Chisora
119-109
I gave Chisora only the 9th round. The Chisora card was a joke. Chisora had his moments, but those were just single episodes. Only the 9th was the round, where Chisora looked dominant for the majority of time. Pulev was in control for nearly all fight. He totally outjabbed Chisora, outworked and outscored him.
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Well, he was scheduled to face Joshua in late 2017, but pulled out due to an injury, was replaced by Takam. Since then it seemed, that his team was just keeping him with minimal risk and activity in order to secure the contender's status. Now he was scheduled to face Joshua again, but all this pandemic stuff is delaying the bout.scartissue wrote: ↑27 Aug 2020, 11:27I like Pulev. I like his style, but at his advanced age he has really wasted the last 4 years of his career.DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Aug 2020, 11:08 Kubrat Pulev vs Dereck Chisora
119-109
I gave Chisora only the 9th round. The Chisora card was a joke. Chisora had his moments, but those were just single episodes. Only the 9th was the round, where Chisora looked dominant for the majority of time. Pulev was in control for nearly all fight. He totally outjabbed Chisora, outworked and outscored him.
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scartissue
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Needed a good old toe-to-toe just to clear the head and I alighted on Felix Trinidad v Ricardo Mayorga. Here we go.
Round 1: 10-9 Trinidad
Round 2: 10-9 Trinidad
Round 3: 10-8 Mayorga (scores a flash knockdown)
Round 4: 10-10 Even
Round 5: 10-8 Trinidad (dishes out a battering)
Round 6: 10-9 Trinidad
Round 7: 10-9 Mayorga
Round 8: Tito drops Mayorga 3 times and the fight is stopped
Total (through 7 completed rounds): 67-65 Trinidad (actual scores: 68-64, 68-64 and 67-64 all for Trinidad)
A terrific old barn-burner was just the ticket . Both landed their shots but Tito's were more precise and wicked. Loved it. BTW, the knockdown scored by Mayorga may have been official, but it was more of a Trinidad glove touching down steadying himself. But it is what it is.
Round 1: 10-9 Trinidad
Round 2: 10-9 Trinidad
Round 3: 10-8 Mayorga (scores a flash knockdown)
Round 4: 10-10 Even
Round 5: 10-8 Trinidad (dishes out a battering)
Round 6: 10-9 Trinidad
Round 7: 10-9 Mayorga
Round 8: Tito drops Mayorga 3 times and the fight is stopped
Total (through 7 completed rounds): 67-65 Trinidad (actual scores: 68-64, 68-64 and 67-64 all for Trinidad)
A terrific old barn-burner was just the ticket . Both landed their shots but Tito's were more precise and wicked. Loved it. BTW, the knockdown scored by Mayorga may have been official, but it was more of a Trinidad glove touching down steadying himself. But it is what it is.
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I had Chis over Helenius 118-111, and Pulev over Chis 118-110. No idea what some of these judges were watching!DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Aug 2020, 11:08 Kubrat Pulev vs Dereck Chisora
119-109
I gave Chisora only the 9th round. The Chisora card was a joke. Chisora had his moments, but those were just single episodes. Only the 9th was the round, where Chisora looked dominant for the majority of time. Pulev was in control for nearly all fight. He totally outjabbed Chisora, outworked and outscored him.
I've seen some people diss Pulev by saying he could only manage a split over Chisora, they obviously haven't watched the fight
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Fury-McDermott Dilogy
#1
1: Fury 10-9
2: Fury 10-9
3: Fury 10-9
4: McDermott 10-9
5: McDermott 10-9
6: 10-10
7: Fury 10-9
8: McDermott 10-9
9: 10-10
10: Fury 10-9
Total score: Fury 97-95
A quite close fight and a highly competetive one. Actually, I won't say, that it was a robbery, but the ref obviously had an awfully wide score. Some rounds were very close. Fury was green then and not ready properly for tough and experienced McDermott. Fury had a good start, he took the fight, which had been imposed by McDermott, and generally Fury was getting better in the exchanges. After a pretty fast start the fight slowed down, as both boxers was tireing, while Fury was tireing more due to a lack of functional preparation. Also, McDermott was more economical. Actually, Fury outworked McDermott and he was more busy even after he had tired, whereas the eventual stats had McDermott edgeing a bit at the connected shots. I'd say, McDermott just landed the hardest, the most noticeable shots, but, overall, Fury edged the fight.
#2
1: Fury 10-9
2: Fury 10-9
3: Fury 10-9
4: Fury 10-9
5: Fury 10-9
6: McDermott 10-9
7: 9-9 (Fury deducted a point for excessive holding)
8: Fury 10-8 (McDermott down)
9: Fury KO
Before the stoppage: Fury 78-72
This time Fury was better prepared. He had a better corner and was generally growing as a boxer. McDermott had some moments early, but those were majorly occasional overhand rights. Fury was clearly outboxing McDermott for the first five rounds. After the 5th Fury tired, while McDermott's corner pushed John hard, acknowledging he had been losing. So, McDermott pressed forward in the 6th and took that round from tired Fury. Tyson was able to regroup for the next round, but he was also clinching a lot there, for what he was deducted a point. The 8th round was grueling for both and at the end of it Fury dropped McDermott. In the 9th Fury finished the job. Actually, in all suffered knockdowns McDermott looked not just hurt, but also exhausted.
Up to the date Fury has three dilogies, while the Wilder rivalry is going to become a trilogy. And these two fights against McDermott looked harder for Fury, than the ones in the rivalries against Chisora and Wilder. Well, obviously Tyson was only a young boxer, who still had a lot learn, when he faced McDermott.
#1
1: Fury 10-9
2: Fury 10-9
3: Fury 10-9
4: McDermott 10-9
5: McDermott 10-9
6: 10-10
7: Fury 10-9
8: McDermott 10-9
9: 10-10
10: Fury 10-9
Total score: Fury 97-95
A quite close fight and a highly competetive one. Actually, I won't say, that it was a robbery, but the ref obviously had an awfully wide score. Some rounds were very close. Fury was green then and not ready properly for tough and experienced McDermott. Fury had a good start, he took the fight, which had been imposed by McDermott, and generally Fury was getting better in the exchanges. After a pretty fast start the fight slowed down, as both boxers was tireing, while Fury was tireing more due to a lack of functional preparation. Also, McDermott was more economical. Actually, Fury outworked McDermott and he was more busy even after he had tired, whereas the eventual stats had McDermott edgeing a bit at the connected shots. I'd say, McDermott just landed the hardest, the most noticeable shots, but, overall, Fury edged the fight.
#2
1: Fury 10-9
2: Fury 10-9
3: Fury 10-9
4: Fury 10-9
5: Fury 10-9
6: McDermott 10-9
7: 9-9 (Fury deducted a point for excessive holding)
8: Fury 10-8 (McDermott down)
9: Fury KO
Before the stoppage: Fury 78-72
This time Fury was better prepared. He had a better corner and was generally growing as a boxer. McDermott had some moments early, but those were majorly occasional overhand rights. Fury was clearly outboxing McDermott for the first five rounds. After the 5th Fury tired, while McDermott's corner pushed John hard, acknowledging he had been losing. So, McDermott pressed forward in the 6th and took that round from tired Fury. Tyson was able to regroup for the next round, but he was also clinching a lot there, for what he was deducted a point. The 8th round was grueling for both and at the end of it Fury dropped McDermott. In the 9th Fury finished the job. Actually, in all suffered knockdowns McDermott looked not just hurt, but also exhausted.
Up to the date Fury has three dilogies, while the Wilder rivalry is going to become a trilogy. And these two fights against McDermott looked harder for Fury, than the ones in the rivalries against Chisora and Wilder. Well, obviously Tyson was only a young boxer, who still had a lot learn, when he faced McDermott.
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Hassan Ndam Njikam vs Max Bursak
1-4 Njikam
5-6 Bursak
7-8 Njikam
9 - Bursak
10 - Njikam
11 - Even
12 - Njikam
Winner : Hassan Ndam Njikam 117-112
Official scorecards : N'Jikam won by UD (118-110 x2,118-111)
1-4 Njikam
5-6 Bursak
7-8 Njikam
9 - Bursak
10 - Njikam
11 - Even
12 - Njikam
Winner : Hassan Ndam Njikam 117-112
Official scorecards : N'Jikam won by UD (118-110 x2,118-111)
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Tyson Fury vs Otto Wallin
119-109
A case, when a score doesn't reflect an effort of a defeated fighter. Wallin pushed forward in the first half of the fight, but Fury was outboxing him. Of course, Fury often looked wary because of the huge cut he had sustained early in the bout, but still Tyson was always in control. Fury only lost the last round, where he was just trying to avoid action, acknowledging he was winning anyway, while the cut was still providing danger.
119-109
A case, when a score doesn't reflect an effort of a defeated fighter. Wallin pushed forward in the first half of the fight, but Fury was outboxing him. Of course, Fury often looked wary because of the huge cut he had sustained early in the bout, but still Tyson was always in control. Fury only lost the last round, where he was just trying to avoid action, acknowledging he was winning anyway, while the cut was still providing danger.
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scartissue
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Tim Witherspoon v Ray Mercer
Round 1: 10-9 Witherspoon
Round 2: 10-9 Witherspoon
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Mercer
Round 5: 10-9 Witherspoon
Round 6: 10-9 Mercer
Round 7: 10-9 Witherspoon
Round 8: 10-9 Mercer
Round 9: 10-9 Mercer
Round 10: 10-9 Mercer
Total: 96-95 Mercer (actual scores: 97-93 twice and 97-91 all for Mercer)
I felt Ray Mercer just simply outworked Witherspoon. Tim kept relying on his big overhand right as a game changer and he let the fight get away. The HBO crew and several different sites went with Witherspoon, but I thought Mercer was a close but deserving winner.
Round 1: 10-9 Witherspoon
Round 2: 10-9 Witherspoon
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Mercer
Round 5: 10-9 Witherspoon
Round 6: 10-9 Mercer
Round 7: 10-9 Witherspoon
Round 8: 10-9 Mercer
Round 9: 10-9 Mercer
Round 10: 10-9 Mercer
Total: 96-95 Mercer (actual scores: 97-93 twice and 97-91 all for Mercer)
I felt Ray Mercer just simply outworked Witherspoon. Tim kept relying on his big overhand right as a game changer and he let the fight get away. The HBO crew and several different sites went with Witherspoon, but I thought Mercer was a close but deserving winner.
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I went with Witherspoon as well. Maybe it's better to rewatch, the fight was damn good anyway.scartissue wrote: ↑29 Aug 2020, 09:32 Tim Witherspoon v Ray Mercer
Round 1: 10-9 Witherspoon
Round 2: 10-9 Witherspoon
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Mercer
Round 5: 10-9 Witherspoon
Round 6: 10-9 Mercer
Round 7: 10-9 Witherspoon
Round 8: 10-9 Mercer
Round 9: 10-9 Mercer
Round 10: 10-9 Mercer
Total: 96-95 Mercer (actual scores: 97-93 twice and 97-91 all for Mercer)
I felt Ray Mercer just simply outworked Witherspoon. Tim kept relying on his big overhand right as a game changer and he let the fight get away. The HBO crew and several different sites went with Witherspoon, but I thought Mercer was a close but deserving winner.
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scartissue
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It was, and as you can see by my 1 point spread, it was also damn close.DrDuke wrote: ↑29 Aug 2020, 11:19I went with Witherspoon as well. Maybe it's better to rewatch, the fight was damn good anyway.scartissue wrote: ↑29 Aug 2020, 09:32 Tim Witherspoon v Ray Mercer
Round 1: 10-9 Witherspoon
Round 2: 10-9 Witherspoon
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Mercer
Round 5: 10-9 Witherspoon
Round 6: 10-9 Mercer
Round 7: 10-9 Witherspoon
Round 8: 10-9 Mercer
Round 9: 10-9 Mercer
Round 10: 10-9 Mercer
Total: 96-95 Mercer (actual scores: 97-93 twice and 97-91 all for Mercer)
I felt Ray Mercer just simply outworked Witherspoon. Tim kept relying on his big overhand right as a game changer and he let the fight get away. The HBO crew and several different sites went with Witherspoon, but I thought Mercer was a close but deserving winner.
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Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Klitschko
1: Joshua 10-9
2: Klitschko 10-9
3: Joshua 10-9
4: Klitschko 10-9
5: Joshua 10-9 (Klitschko down)
6: Klitschko 10-8 (Joshua down)
7: Klitschko 10-9
8: Klitschko 10-9
9: 10-10
10: Klitschko 10-9
Total: Klitschko 97-93
11: Joshua KO
The fight started with both being very cautious and not doing much. Joshua was doing a bit more overall, but Klitschko gave Joshua surprisingly aggressive starts for the 2nd and the 4th rounds, landing the best shots of the first 4 rounds there, so I gave those rounds for Wlad. Joshua seemed to use Klitschko's weapon of starting fast in the 5th round, where he spurted and put Wlad down, but I still had this round 10-9, because Klitschko absolutely dominated it after he had gotten up. Since that moment Wlad was in total control. Klitschko a bit slowed down in the 9th, Joshua had his moment there, so I had the round even. In the 10th Joshua ate a solid right hand, a one of the best punches of the fight. After this round Joshua was frustrated, but obviously he managed to come back in the 11th.
1: Joshua 10-9
2: Klitschko 10-9
3: Joshua 10-9
4: Klitschko 10-9
5: Joshua 10-9 (Klitschko down)
6: Klitschko 10-8 (Joshua down)
7: Klitschko 10-9
8: Klitschko 10-9
9: 10-10
10: Klitschko 10-9
Total: Klitschko 97-93
11: Joshua KO
The fight started with both being very cautious and not doing much. Joshua was doing a bit more overall, but Klitschko gave Joshua surprisingly aggressive starts for the 2nd and the 4th rounds, landing the best shots of the first 4 rounds there, so I gave those rounds for Wlad. Joshua seemed to use Klitschko's weapon of starting fast in the 5th round, where he spurted and put Wlad down, but I still had this round 10-9, because Klitschko absolutely dominated it after he had gotten up. Since that moment Wlad was in total control. Klitschko a bit slowed down in the 9th, Joshua had his moment there, so I had the round even. In the 10th Joshua ate a solid right hand, a one of the best punches of the fight. After this round Joshua was frustrated, but obviously he managed to come back in the 11th.
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Watched the middleweight title fight between Reggie Johnson and John David Jackson. After two rounds I thought I was in for a long, dull stretch, but it began turning around in the 3rd and turned into a watchable fight that had its moments. Here we go.
Round 1: 10-10 Even
Round 2: 10-9 Jackson
Round 3: 10-9 Johnson
Round 4: 10-9 Johnson
Round 5: 10-10 Even
Round 6: 10-9 Jackson
Round 7: 10-8 Jackson (Reggie lost a point for a low blow)
Round 8: 10-9 Johnson
Round 9: 10-9 Johnson
Round 10: 10-10 Even
Round 11: 10-9 Johnson
Round 12: 10-9 Jackson
Total: 115-115 Draw (actual scores: 115-114, 115-114 and 115-113 all for Jackson)
When I first saw the result back in the day I had heard rumors that Johnson was robbed. But seeing it I have to admit it was very close. It was a toughie to score too because, although Reggie threw the more substantial punches, Jackson was working that pesky but effective southpaw jab with regularity. Johnson realized mid-way that he had to get inside if he was to pull this out. Jackson had height and reach on him and was really settling in to outbox Reggie. When Reggie turned it on inside he was really effective, but I will admit, it was damn close.
Round 1: 10-10 Even
Round 2: 10-9 Jackson
Round 3: 10-9 Johnson
Round 4: 10-9 Johnson
Round 5: 10-10 Even
Round 6: 10-9 Jackson
Round 7: 10-8 Jackson (Reggie lost a point for a low blow)
Round 8: 10-9 Johnson
Round 9: 10-9 Johnson
Round 10: 10-10 Even
Round 11: 10-9 Johnson
Round 12: 10-9 Jackson
Total: 115-115 Draw (actual scores: 115-114, 115-114 and 115-113 all for Jackson)
When I first saw the result back in the day I had heard rumors that Johnson was robbed. But seeing it I have to admit it was very close. It was a toughie to score too because, although Reggie threw the more substantial punches, Jackson was working that pesky but effective southpaw jab with regularity. Johnson realized mid-way that he had to get inside if he was to pull this out. Jackson had height and reach on him and was really settling in to outbox Reggie. When Reggie turned it on inside he was really effective, but I will admit, it was damn close.
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Canelo Alvarez vs Erislandy Lara
1: Lara 10-9
2: Lara 10-9
3: Lara 10-9
4: Canelo 10-9
5: Canelo 10-9
6: Canelo 10-9
7: Lara 10-9
8: Canelo 10-9
9: Lara 10-9
10: Lara 10-9
11: Lara 10-9
12: Lara 10-9
Total score: Lara 116-112
A pretty clear decision for Lara. Canelo was the one to press the action and to land more power punches, where the majority of them were to the body of Lara, but they didn't seem to bother Lara. Lara was moving well, he even wasn't much frustrated by the sustained cut. He was outworked by Canelo, but he outscored Alvarez. Lara outjabbed Canelo and Lara's left hands looked bothering for Canelo. Alvarez actually is a gifted fighter to have such chin and durability, it helped him a lot through his career. Lara clearly took the first three rounds, then Canelo activated with his body work and took the next three, but already the 6th one was closer, Lara was adapting. The 7th was the cut round, but I didn't give it to Canelo just because of the fact, that he had managed to cut Lara, cause overall Lara looked better. Lara even was more bothered by the fact of being cut in the next round, yet anyway Lara bounced back in the 9th and was outboxing Canelo until the end. Before the 12th Canelo's corner urged him to press the action more, because it was close by their words, so Canelo increased the pressure, but Lara was ready for that. Both of the fighters landed the same amount of punches in the last round, but Lara looked more effective and in addition to that stole the closing seconds. So, I'd say, it's a clear robbery, especially taking into account the 117-111 card for Canelo.
1: Lara 10-9
2: Lara 10-9
3: Lara 10-9
4: Canelo 10-9
5: Canelo 10-9
6: Canelo 10-9
7: Lara 10-9
8: Canelo 10-9
9: Lara 10-9
10: Lara 10-9
11: Lara 10-9
12: Lara 10-9
Total score: Lara 116-112
A pretty clear decision for Lara. Canelo was the one to press the action and to land more power punches, where the majority of them were to the body of Lara, but they didn't seem to bother Lara. Lara was moving well, he even wasn't much frustrated by the sustained cut. He was outworked by Canelo, but he outscored Alvarez. Lara outjabbed Canelo and Lara's left hands looked bothering for Canelo. Alvarez actually is a gifted fighter to have such chin and durability, it helped him a lot through his career. Lara clearly took the first three rounds, then Canelo activated with his body work and took the next three, but already the 6th one was closer, Lara was adapting. The 7th was the cut round, but I didn't give it to Canelo just because of the fact, that he had managed to cut Lara, cause overall Lara looked better. Lara even was more bothered by the fact of being cut in the next round, yet anyway Lara bounced back in the 9th and was outboxing Canelo until the end. Before the 12th Canelo's corner urged him to press the action more, because it was close by their words, so Canelo increased the pressure, but Lara was ready for that. Both of the fighters landed the same amount of punches in the last round, but Lara looked more effective and in addition to that stole the closing seconds. So, I'd say, it's a clear robbery, especially taking into account the 117-111 card for Canelo.
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scartissue
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Watched a fight I didn't know was out there. The '64 bout between Zora Folley and George Chuvalo. It wasn't scintillating action but I really enjoyed watching these two plying their trade. Cleveland's 5 point must scoring in effect.
Round 1: 5-5 Even
Round 2: 5-4 Folley
Round 3: 5-4 Folley
Round 4: 5-4 Chuvalo
Round 5: 5-4 Folley
Round 6: 5-4 Folley
Round 7: 5-4 Chuvalo
Round 8: 5-4 Folley
Round 9: 5-4 Chuvalo
Round 10: 5-4 Folley
Total: 47-44 Folley (actual scores: 49-42, 47-44 and 50-45 all for Folley)
Although Chuvalo had the greater workrate, his clubbing punches weren't the most exact in legal areas. Still, as always, a really good effort by Chuvalo. Folley, on the other hand, used his left jab and sharp rights so well and was so precise. Nothing wasted. I was really impressed watching him as there is not a lot of footage out there on him. Loved his sharpness and his counter-punching. And again, Chuvalo turned in his never-ending workmanlike performance. Always trying. I really enjoyed this fight on a purist's level.
Round 1: 5-5 Even
Round 2: 5-4 Folley
Round 3: 5-4 Folley
Round 4: 5-4 Chuvalo
Round 5: 5-4 Folley
Round 6: 5-4 Folley
Round 7: 5-4 Chuvalo
Round 8: 5-4 Folley
Round 9: 5-4 Chuvalo
Round 10: 5-4 Folley
Total: 47-44 Folley (actual scores: 49-42, 47-44 and 50-45 all for Folley)
Although Chuvalo had the greater workrate, his clubbing punches weren't the most exact in legal areas. Still, as always, a really good effort by Chuvalo. Folley, on the other hand, used his left jab and sharp rights so well and was so precise. Nothing wasted. I was really impressed watching him as there is not a lot of footage out there on him. Loved his sharpness and his counter-punching. And again, Chuvalo turned in his never-ending workmanlike performance. Always trying. I really enjoyed this fight on a purist's level.
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Floyd Mayweather vs Jose Luis Castillo I
1: Mayweather 10-9
2: Mayweather 10-9
3: Mayweather 10-9
4: Mayweather 10-9
5: Mayweather 10-9
6: Castillo 10-9
7: Castillo 10-9
8: Mayweather 10-8 (Castillo deducted a point for hitting after the break [could be just warned really])
9: Castillo 10-9
10: 9-9 (Mayweather deducted a point for the elbow move [the ref likely felt, he had took a point from Castillo for nothing])
11: Castillo 10-9
12: Castillo 10-9
Total: Mayweather 114-112
Actually, I had Castillo winning this previously, but no, that hadn't been a robbery. It just was close and had a bleak ending for Mayweather, who had already done enough before the final two rounds. Mayweather clearly won the first 5 (!) rounds, he was faster, he was elusive for Castillo, the was landing the biggest shots. Mayweather slowed down after the 5th, but Castillo didn't win the following 7 rounds in a row FFS. The fight just went closer from the 6th and Castillo was just edging it a bit. Castillo confidently won the last two rounds, yes, but Mayweather had still managed to look better in the 8th and 10th, so Floyd took a couple of rounds in the competetive section of the bout, thus Mayweather was able to win the fight in whole, 7 to 5 in rounds.
1: Mayweather 10-9
2: Mayweather 10-9
3: Mayweather 10-9
4: Mayweather 10-9
5: Mayweather 10-9
6: Castillo 10-9
7: Castillo 10-9
8: Mayweather 10-8 (Castillo deducted a point for hitting after the break [could be just warned really])
9: Castillo 10-9
10: 9-9 (Mayweather deducted a point for the elbow move [the ref likely felt, he had took a point from Castillo for nothing])
11: Castillo 10-9
12: Castillo 10-9
Total: Mayweather 114-112
Actually, I had Castillo winning this previously, but no, that hadn't been a robbery. It just was close and had a bleak ending for Mayweather, who had already done enough before the final two rounds. Mayweather clearly won the first 5 (!) rounds, he was faster, he was elusive for Castillo, the was landing the biggest shots. Mayweather slowed down after the 5th, but Castillo didn't win the following 7 rounds in a row FFS. The fight just went closer from the 6th and Castillo was just edging it a bit. Castillo confidently won the last two rounds, yes, but Mayweather had still managed to look better in the 8th and 10th, so Floyd took a couple of rounds in the competetive section of the bout, thus Mayweather was able to win the fight in whole, 7 to 5 in rounds.
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scartissue
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Re: Post Your Scorecards
I had their first fight 116-112 for Castillo and their rematch 116-114 for Mayweather. Viewing a fight can be so tricky at times.DrDuke wrote: ↑02 Sep 2020, 07:27 Floyd Mayweather vs Jose Luis Castillo I
1: Mayweather 10-9
2: Mayweather 10-9
3: Mayweather 10-9
4: Mayweather 10-9
5: Mayweather 10-9
6: Castillo 10-9
7: Castillo 10-9
8: Mayweather 10-8 (Castillo deducted a point for hitting after the break [could be just warned really])
9: Castillo 10-9
10: 9-9 (Mayweather deducted a point for the elbow move [the ref likely felt, he had took a point from Castillo for nothing])
11: Castillo 10-9
12: Castillo 10-9
Total: Mayweather 114-112
Actually, I had Castillo winning this previously, but no, that hadn't been a robbery. It just was close and had a bleak ending for Mayweather, who had already done enough before the final two rounds. Mayweather clearly won the first 5 (!) rounds, he was faster, he was elusive for Castillo, the was landing the biggest shots. Mayweather slowed down after the 5th, but Castillo didn't win the following 7 rounds in a row FFS. The fight just went closer from the 6th and Castillo was just edging it a bit. Castillo confidently won the last two rounds, yes, but Mayweather had still managed to look better in the 8th and 10th, so Floyd took a couple of rounds in the competetive section of the bout, thus Mayweather was able to win the fight in whole, 7 to 5 in rounds.
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Floyd Mayweather vs Oscar De La Hoya
1: Mayweather 10-9
2: De La Hoya 10-9
3: Mayweather 10-9
4: De La Hoya 10-9
5: Mayweather 10-9
6: De La Hoya 10-9
7: De La Hoya 10-9
8: Mayweather 10-9
9: Mayweather 10-9
10: Mayweather 10-9
11: Mayweather 10-9
12: Mayweather 10-9
Total: Mayweather 116-112
The first half of the fight was close with shifts from a one side to another round by round. Oscar took the midpoint of the fight, after what he slowed down significantly. Since the 8th De La Hoya had only separate moments, not worthy of giving rounds to him, while Floyd was clearly outlanding him. Even the last Oscar's flurry at the end of the 12th didn't steal the round for him, cause Floyd still was fighting back and also scoring, while he had been looking better for the whole time before it in the round. All in all, it was quite clear through the fight, that Oscar was missing a lot, while Mayweather was landing the biggest shots. A competetive fight, but not a robbery really.
1: Mayweather 10-9
2: De La Hoya 10-9
3: Mayweather 10-9
4: De La Hoya 10-9
5: Mayweather 10-9
6: De La Hoya 10-9
7: De La Hoya 10-9
8: Mayweather 10-9
9: Mayweather 10-9
10: Mayweather 10-9
11: Mayweather 10-9
12: Mayweather 10-9
Total: Mayweather 116-112
The first half of the fight was close with shifts from a one side to another round by round. Oscar took the midpoint of the fight, after what he slowed down significantly. Since the 8th De La Hoya had only separate moments, not worthy of giving rounds to him, while Floyd was clearly outlanding him. Even the last Oscar's flurry at the end of the 12th didn't steal the round for him, cause Floyd still was fighting back and also scoring, while he had been looking better for the whole time before it in the round. All in all, it was quite clear through the fight, that Oscar was missing a lot, while Mayweather was landing the biggest shots. A competetive fight, but not a robbery really.
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Floyd Mayweather vs Marcos Maidana
1: Maidana 10-9
2: Mayweather 10-9
3: Maidana 10-9
4: Maidana 10-9
5: Maidana 10-9
6: Mayweather 10-9
7: Mayweather 10-9
8: Mayweather 10-9
9: Mayweather 10-9
10: Mayweather 10-9
11: Mayweather 10-9
12: Mayweather 10-9
Total: Mayweather 116-112
No controversy here. Maidana started very aggressive and overall was successful, but Mayweather was fighting back well, the 2nd was even worthy to go for Floyd. Maidana slowed down by the midpoint of the bout and Mayweather took all remaining rounds. Maidana tried to come back in the 11th and 12th, but Mayweather didn't let him to do it. A great clash of styles matchup, a one of the best Mayweather's fights.
1: Maidana 10-9
2: Mayweather 10-9
3: Maidana 10-9
4: Maidana 10-9
5: Maidana 10-9
6: Mayweather 10-9
7: Mayweather 10-9
8: Mayweather 10-9
9: Mayweather 10-9
10: Mayweather 10-9
11: Mayweather 10-9
12: Mayweather 10-9
Total: Mayweather 116-112
No controversy here. Maidana started very aggressive and overall was successful, but Mayweather was fighting back well, the 2nd was even worthy to go for Floyd. Maidana slowed down by the midpoint of the bout and Mayweather took all remaining rounds. Maidana tried to come back in the 11th and 12th, but Mayweather didn't let him to do it. A great clash of styles matchup, a one of the best Mayweather's fights.
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Ambling Alp II
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Re: Post Your Scorecards
Wow.DrDuke wrote: ↑02 Sep 2020, 07:27 Floyd Mayweather vs Jose Luis Castillo I
1: Mayweather 10-9
2: Mayweather 10-9
3: Mayweather 10-9
4: Mayweather 10-9
5: Mayweather 10-9
6: Castillo 10-9
7: Castillo 10-9
8: Mayweather 10-8 (Castillo deducted a point for hitting after the break [could be just warned really])
9: Castillo 10-9
10: 9-9 (Mayweather deducted a point for the elbow move [the ref likely felt, he had took a point from Castillo for nothing])
11: Castillo 10-9
12: Castillo 10-9
Total: Mayweather 114-112
Actually, I had Castillo winning this previously, but no, that hadn't been a robbery. It just was close and had a bleak ending for Mayweather, who had already done enough before the final two rounds. Mayweather clearly won the first 5 (!) rounds, he was faster, he was elusive for Castillo, the was landing the biggest shots. Mayweather slowed down after the 5th, but Castillo didn't win the following 7 rounds in a row FFS. The fight just went closer from the 6th and Castillo was just edging it a bit. Castillo confidently won the last two rounds, yes, but Mayweather had still managed to look better in the 8th and 10th, so Floyd took a couple of rounds in the competetive section of the bout, thus Mayweather was able to win the fight in whole, 7 to 5 in rounds.
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Surely brevity is the soul of wit, but what's exactly is so wowing for ya and why?
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Post Your Scorecards
That's one I should rewatch, as I only watched it live. I had it live clearly for Castillo, I think 115-111. Can't say that Floyd was being all that good defensively at any point in the fight. It's really the only fight he's had where I thought he was being consistently hit and outscored. The other fights some people had against him were Maidana 1 and Oscar, but I thought he won those clearly, not Castillo 1 though
If I recall, I thought he spent way too much time on the ropes, and got hit a lot there. He was standing still and not keeping up with Castillo's output and his defense was just not up to its usual sttandard. In the rematch he moved a lot more, built a big lead, then cruised home for a clear win
wILl try to give it another watch soon to see if my perspective has changed
If I recall, I thought he spent way too much time on the ropes, and got hit a lot there. He was standing still and not keeping up with Castillo's output and his defense was just not up to its usual sttandard. In the rematch he moved a lot more, built a big lead, then cruised home for a clear win
wILl try to give it another watch soon to see if my perspective has changed