Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - 28 November 2020

Who wins?

Poll ended at 28 Nov 2020, 12:14

Joyce - Decision
22
13%
Joyce - T/KO
45
26%
DRAW
7
4%
Dubois - T/KO
89
52%
Dubois - Decision
7
4%
 
Total votes: 170

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Mitchell Barton 18st 6. Kid can move for that weight.
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IJL should NOT be near this fight..
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DDD looks like he should be heavier than Joyce, they are both big lumps
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Weigh-In Report

Dubois (15-0, 14KOs) clocked in at a ripped and ready 244.4 pounds for his second fight since the pandemic. Joyce (11-0, 10KOs) hit the scale at a stacked 258.9 pounds, in line with his conditioning for a 12-round win over former title challenger Bryant Jennings last July.

Catterall weighed 143.2 pounds for his first fight in just over a year, while waiting out a due title shot versus unified 140-pound titlist Josh Taylor. Houya checked in at 141.6 pound.

Sheeraz hit the scale at a shredded 153.6 pounds gracing his 6’1” frame. Pitto—a 33-year old journeyman from Barcelona, Spain by way of Buenos Aires, Argentina?entered at a fighting fit 152.6 pounds.

David Adeleye (London, England; 3-0, 3KOs), 219 ¼ lbs. vs. Danny Whitaker (Yorkshire, England; 4-1, 0KOs), 260 lbs.—8 rds, heavyweight
Jack Massey (Derbyshire, England; 16-1, 8KOs), 201.4 lbs. vs. Mohammed Ali Bayat Farid (Dubai, UAE; 16-1-1, 16KOs) 200.4 lbs.—8 rds, cruiserweight
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Daniel Dubois vs. Joe Joyce Predictions - Fury, Haye, Hatton, Frampton, More

AT LAST, Daniel Dubois vs. Joe Joyce is finally happening. It is a fight that has captured the public imagination and it goes down this Saturday night live on BT Sport 1 HD from 7.30pm.

Below are a selection of prediction quotes from some of the biggest names in the sport, and a few famous fans for good measure.

FIGHT PREDICTIONS

TYSON FURY
I want to be there for that. I want to be the commentary man for that fight. That’s a fight I do not want to miss. Both good fighters. Joe’s a big strong unit, Juggernaut, get in the way he’ll run you over. Daniel’s big and strong and youthful, fresh. They’re both good fighters and it’ll come down to who wants it more on the night. They’re both capable of winning, they’re both capable of pulling victories out and they’re both capable of knocking the other person out. It’s a fight you don’t want to miss. Watch it live and exclusive on BT Sport.

DAVID HAYE
I can see it going both ways. I can see Dubois being able to stop Joyce if it’s an early shootout. But, if it’s not an early shootout and it becomes a boxing match, I believe that works in Joe Joyce’s favour. So I’m going to go with the man I know, the man I’ve seen take some beatings and soak it up, I’m going to go with Joe Joyce by points decision or late stoppage.

JOHN FURY
I’m a little bit worried about whether it’s too early for Daniel Dubois. Joe Joyce is a big, strong seasoned man. We know he’s got a good engine and he can hold a shot well. It’s a hard one, but for my money it’s a bit too soon for Daniel Dubois.

ANDY LEE
I see it being a shoot out. I think Dubois’ extra speed will give him the edge and I think he’ll win by knockout.

RICKY HATTON
I think most people will lean to Dubois slightly because he’s a man in form. He’s a little bit fresher. Joe’s had a very distinguished amateur career, maybe he has a few more miles on the clock than Daniel. He’s quite versatile Joe. He can do pretty much everything. His style is a little bit in-your-face, though, which might suit Daniel Dubois. I think it’s a 50-50 fight, but Daniel might be a little bit fresher… I think that might just make the difference.

PAULIE MALIGNAGGI
My prediction is an explosive fight. Could go either ways. They’re both big punching guys looking for the big one. I edge towards Dubois at this moment.

RICHIE WOODALL
I think if Daniel Dubois can land a big shot early on it’ll be his contest. If Joe can get through the first 3 or 4 rounds and take Daniel into the later stages… then the tide could turn after 5 or 6 rounds. If I had to put money on it, I’d probably just fancy Daniel to be honest.

LIAM WILLIAMS
I think it’ll be a very good fight. I quite highly favour Dubois, but if Joyce can weather a bit of a storm then I think he’s in with a chance. If you put a gun to my head, I’d have to put my money on Dubois.

NATHAN GORMAN
It’s a real 50-50 fight in my opinion. I think lot of people are writing Joe off, but it’s a lot closer than that. Joyce has got a good amateur pedigree. Daniel on the other hand is a big power puncher, massive backhand. Under six I’ll favour Daniel, over six it’ll be interesting to see what happens.

TOMMY FURY
50-50 in my mind. Obviously Joyce can shift a shot, he’s more experienced coming from the amateurs. He’s had some good fights as a professional. Then you’ve got a young boy Daniel Dubois, British champion on his way up. I know it’s a cliché to say that if it goes long Joyce will win it and if it goes short Daniel will win it but really, I just wish good luck to both men hope they put up a good fight and may the best man win.

CARL FRAMPTON
This ones really interesting. Both guys are punchers. Dubois is technically better than Joe but Joe, even though he looks really unorthodox, he’s got an engine like I’ve never seen before in my life. I was lucky enough to train with him and I’ve never seen a fitter boxer. He’ll want to apply his pressure to Dubois and make him work hard from the start. I think it’s going to be a great fight, Joe’s going to force the pace from the start and he’s going to walk onto a lot of shots so it’s all about how well his chin holds up. The later the fight goes on the more chance that Joe has but I’m going to stay with Dubois on this one. I think Dubois will get to him at some point, probably a stoppage in the middle rounds.

LOU DIBELLA
I love this fight — clash of styles, with the outcome in doubt. Big Joe is physically strong, durable, more experienced, and has reach... but he’s slow. Dubois is more mobile, can be explosive, and has potential out the ying-yang. This is a great domestic brawl. The kid’s more athletic and I’m predicting a mid/late stoppage for Daniel.

ANTHONY OGOGO
Going to be a great fight, two of the biggest prospects in Heavyweight boxing tearing it up, like the good old days. It’s as close to a 50/50 as you can get but I’m slightly leaning towards Joyce as he’s more experienced in big matches, his physical maturity and experience in big fights and competition like the Olympics , etc.

JON PEGG (Top Matchmaker)
I keep changing my mind on this one. I’m going for the Peacock Gym team to tip the balance with their experience and Dubois to get a hard fought stoppage around 7.

KALLE SAUERLAND
I think it’s an excellent 50/50 fight and has the makings to be a classic. Dubois is a phenomenal talent but is this a match-up too early for him? I could not pick a winner as there are too many unknowns but if I had too I would have to pick Joyce because I have seen him in the deep end before. Good luck to both.

LIAM SMITH
I think it’s a top fight between two very good Heavyweights who are both on the up. It’s a good clash of styles. If Dubois has it in the tank, I think he wins, he’s better all round. If he doesn’t, and doesn’t do Joyce in the first few rounds, then Joyce could come on for a late stoppage. But, my pick is Dubois win, 4-6 rounds.

MARK TIBBS
I believe ‘Dynamite’ Dubois is gonna explode on point and extinguish Joe Joyce within six rounds.

TROY WILLIAMSON
A lot of people are writing Joe off, but he's GB's most decorated amateur for a reason. I'm going for JJ win.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 11:49

TYSON FURY
I want to be there for that. I want to be the commentary man for that fight. That’s a fight I do not want to miss. Both good fighters. Joe’s a big strong unit, Juggernaut, get in the way he’ll run you over. Daniel’s big and strong and youthful, fresh. They’re both good fighters and it’ll come down to who wants it more on the night. They’re both capable of winning, they’re both capable of pulling victories out and they’re both capable of knocking the other person out. It’s a fight you don’t want to miss. Watch it live and exclusive on BT Sport.
:lol: good old Tyson getting his fence-sitting in early
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Counter-puncher wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 12:36
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 11:49

TYSON FURY
I want to be there for that. I want to be the commentary man for that fight. That’s a fight I do not want to miss. Both good fighters. Joe’s a big strong unit, Juggernaut, get in the way he’ll run you over. Daniel’s big and strong and youthful, fresh. They’re both good fighters and it’ll come down to who wants it more on the night. They’re both capable of winning, they’re both capable of pulling victories out and they’re both capable of knocking the other person out. It’s a fight you don’t want to miss. Watch it live and exclusive on BT Sport.
:lol: good old Tyson getting his fence-sitting in early
Sounds like a promoter.. Like a press release. Basically selling the fight.
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If I was a betting man I would go with the things I know, with JJ for sure he has got chin, stamina, is very strong and hits hard enough, he is not short of skill or experience either.

With DD there are too many unknowns, esp when it comes to chin and stamina, he may have everything but we will never know untill he meets someone capable of taking him into deep water.

Even if he blasted JJ all those questions would still remain, many though Gorman would be capable of testing him but DD only proved once again that he is a brutal finisher.

Nevertheless FW wouldn't be sticking him unless he was double confident.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 12:57
Counter-puncher wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 12:36
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 11:49

TYSON FURY
I want to be there for that. I want to be the commentary man for that fight. That’s a fight I do not want to miss. Both good fighters. Joe’s a big strong unit, Juggernaut, get in the way he’ll run you over. Daniel’s big and strong and youthful, fresh. They’re both good fighters and it’ll come down to who wants it more on the night. They’re both capable of winning, they’re both capable of pulling victories out and they’re both capable of knocking the other person out. It’s a fight you don’t want to miss. Watch it live and exclusive on BT Sport.
:lol: good old Tyson getting his fence-sitting in early
Sounds like a promoter.. Like a press release. Basically selling the fight.
exactly, he's a pro is Tyson, one eye on his future media career....
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Coco wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 13:09 If I was a betting man I would go with the things I know, with JJ for sure he has got chin, stamina, is very strong and hits hard enough, he is not short of skill or experience either.

With DD there are too many unknowns, esp when it comes to chin and stamina, he may have everything but we will never know untill he meets someone capable of taking him into deep water.
you've perfectly summed up my thoughts on the fight :TU:
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Coco wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 13:09 If I was a betting man I would go with the things I know, with JJ for sure he has got chin, stamina, is very strong and hits hard enough, he is not short of skill or experience either.

With DD there are too many unknowns, esp when it comes to chin and stamina, he may have everything but we will never know untill he meets someone capable of taking him into deep water.

Even if he blasted JJ all those questions would still remain, many though Gorman would be capable of testing him but DD only proved once again that he is a brutal finisher.

Nevertheless FW wouldn't be sticking him unless he was double confident.
Dubois went 12 rounds with Kevin Johnson but Kevin didn't really trhow much back. Maybe 3 shots per round.
He took clean shots from Lartey and only took one step back to recompose. I think his chin and stamina will hold if there is trouble. And Joyce almost lost to Jennings. I can't see Joyce winning this.
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Dubois inside 8
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Jennings almost ko's Joyce with the left hook to the body. It's one of the Dubois' best shots.
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mustlogin wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 13:57
Coco wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 13:09 If I was a betting man I would go with the things I know, with JJ for sure he has got chin, stamina, is very strong and hits hard enough, he is not short of skill or experience either.

With DD there are too many unknowns, esp when it comes to chin and stamina, he may have everything but we will never know untill he meets someone capable of taking him into deep water.

Even if he blasted JJ all those questions would still remain, many though Gorman would be capable of testing him but DD only proved once again that he is a brutal finisher.

Nevertheless FW wouldn't be sticking him unless he was double confident.
Dubois went 12 rounds with Kevin Johnson but Kevin didn't really trhow much back. Maybe 3 shots per round.
He took clean shots from Lartey and only took one step back to recompose. I think his chin and stamina will hold if there is trouble. And Joyce almost lost to Jennings. I can't see Joyce winning this.
You may well be right but it's guess work, a chin checker from Lartey and being taken through your paces by Kingpin are hardly ways to gauge chin and stamina.
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The thing is, Joyce never nearly lost at all, neither did DDD. What do some of you lads watch?
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mickey1975 wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 14:45 The thing is, Joyce never nearly lost at all, neither did DDD. What do some of you lads watch?
I had Joyce down on the cards to Jennings (I think I had Jennings up by a couple of rounds).

I don't remember thinking a body shot was going to get him out of there though, my memory might be failing me though. Has anyone got a clip of that?
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joshj909 wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 14:56
mickey1975 wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 14:45 The thing is, Joyce never nearly lost at all, neither did DDD. What do some of you lads watch?
I had Joyce down on the cards to Jennings (I think I had Jennings up by a couple of rounds).

I don't remember thinking a body shot was going to get him out of there though, my memory might be failing me though. Has anyone got a clip of that?
He got caught in the first round by a body shot and leant on Jennings for a few seconds to recover. I think that’s what’s being referred to.
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joshj909 wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 14:56
mickey1975 wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 14:45 The thing is, Joyce never nearly lost at all, neither did DDD. What do some of you lads watch?
I had Joyce down on the cards to Jennings (I think I had Jennings up by a couple of rounds).

I don't remember thinking a body shot was going to get him out of there though, my memory might be failing me though. Has anyone got a clip of that?
Are you Terry O'Connor?
Did Joyce's dad knock you out?
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Gary Cornish was clearly ahead against AJ until he got caught
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joshj909 wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 14:56
mickey1975 wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 14:45 The thing is, Joyce never nearly lost at all, neither did DDD. What do some of you lads watch?
I had Joyce down on the cards to Jennings (I think I had Jennings up by a couple of rounds).

I don't remember thinking a body shot was going to get him out of there though, my memory might be failing me though. Has anyone got a clip of that?
The entire fight is available on offficial youtube channel. The only way to win for Joyce is to have iron chin and win by late ko.

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Coco wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 15:24 Gary Cornish was clearly ahead against AJ until he got caught
Miles ahead.
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ShadrachSimmo wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 15:03
joshj909 wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 14:56
mickey1975 wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 14:45 The thing is, Joyce never nearly lost at all, neither did DDD. What do some of you lads watch?
I had Joyce down on the cards to Jennings (I think I had Jennings up by a couple of rounds).

I don't remember thinking a body shot was going to get him out of there though, my memory might be failing me though. Has anyone got a clip of that?
He got caught in the first round by a body shot and leant on Jennings for a few seconds to recover. I think that’s what’s being referred to.
Just rewatched the first round on the link shared below. Fair enough, did look in a bit of danger following that, I stand corrected.
Coco wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 15:19
joshj909 wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 14:56
mickey1975 wrote: 27 Nov 2020, 14:45 The thing is, Joyce never nearly lost at all, neither did DDD. What do some of you lads watch?
I had Joyce down on the cards to Jennings (I think I had Jennings up by a couple of rounds).

I don't remember thinking a body shot was going to get him out of there though, my memory might be failing me though. Has anyone got a clip of that?
Are you Terry O'Connor?
Did Joyce's dad knock you out?
I definitely wasn't the only one who thought the scorecard was bad for that one.
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I'm 50-50 on this one , looking forward to watching it ,, although if anyones got money on it , just tell me who you backed , i'll pick yhe other guy and with my record for picking winners , you'll be on a winner :lol: :lol: :lol: , Good luck to the guys who have put money on this one ,
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Joe Joyce to do his George Poorman and slowly walk down DuBois and club him silly
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Prediction: Joyce to stop an exhausted Dubois in the later rounds. Ten or nine.
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