Boxers who turned their back and quit in the middle of a fight

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Boxers who turned their back and quit in the middle of a fight

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Ok I know Duran, Leo Cruz, Edwin Rosario, Dwight Muhammad Qawi (versus Foreman) and the guy who did it before the bout even started did it...but who else can you mention????
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usually he made the lads turn their back ....

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It's common in Continental European rings-a man will raise one hand and turn slightly to indicate he surrenders.
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Oh yeah and some Alexis Arguello opponents too....I wouldn't say Claude Noel through..I think he had a genuine injury when he quit versus El Flaco...
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Elisha Obed against Eckhard Dagge
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margaret thatcher wrote: 28 May 2021, 17:51 usually he made the lads turn their back ....

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Paul Sykes looks a bit like a heavier Brian Mitchell... :lol:
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Vaulin turned his back after the body shot by Morrison.
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:stop: u
AntonioMartin wrote: 29 May 2021, 02:22
margaret thatcher wrote: 28 May 2021, 17:51 usually he made the lads turn their back ....

Paul Sykes looks a bit like a heavier Brian Mitchell... :lol:
Ha that’s exactly what I thought
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DrDuke wrote: 29 May 2021, 03:35 Vaulin turned his back after the body shot by Morrison.
I was gutted when Vaulin bailed out because up to that point he showed what real boxing is all about. He pissed all over Morrison.
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John Moody vs Sakkie Horn
Gratien Tonna vs Alan Minter
Richie Wenton vs Neil Swain (special circumstances that one...) don't blame any one of them...
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Arguably, John Mugabi against Duane Thomas.
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Rafael Pineda vs. Mark Breland.
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Their was a well known fight with Sugar Ray Robinson when he was on his tour of Europe in 1951.
In Antwerp Belgium he fought Jan De Bruin.
Robinson was pounding him in the 8th round when all the sudden de Bruin just stopped
fighting, grabbed Robinson's arm and raised it and declared out loudly WINNER !
then he said to Robinson "You'r too good for me".
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Caractacus wrote: 01 Jun 2021, 14:38 Their was a well known fight with Sugar Ray Robinson when he was on his tour of Europe in 1951.
In Antwerp Belgium he fought Jan De Bruin.
Robinson was pounding him in the 8th round when all the sudden de Bruin just stopped
fighting, grabbed Robinson's arm and raised it and declared out loudly WINNER !
then he said to Robinson "You'r too good for me".
lol, i love it jan :lol:
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Caractacus wrote: 01 Jun 2021, 14:38 Their was a well known fight with Sugar Ray Robinson when he was on his tour of Europe in 1951.
In Antwerp Belgium he fought Jan De Bruin.
Robinson was pounding him in the 8th round when all the sudden de Bruin just stopped
fighting, grabbed Robinson's arm and raised it and declared out loudly WINNER !
then he said to Robinson "You'r too good for me".
:lol: that's superb.
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NoScoutingReports wrote: 02 Jun 2021, 04:53
Caractacus wrote: 01 Jun 2021, 14:38 Their was a well known fight with Sugar Ray Robinson when he was on his tour of Europe in 1951.
In Antwerp Belgium he fought Jan De Bruin.
Robinson was pounding him in the 8th round when all the sudden de Bruin just stopped
fighting, grabbed Robinson's arm and raised it and declared out loudly WINNER !
then he said to Robinson "You'r too good for me".
:lol: that's superb.
... but unfortunately incorrect. What happened was that De Bruin raised his own hand in surrender after about 2 minutes of round 8. He felt Robinson had been taking it easy on him after round 5 and therefore didn't want to continue. Robinson said after the fight that he needed the rounds in preparation of the upcoming Turpin fight and for that reason had backed off repeatedly when he had his opponent in trouble.
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wouter wrote: 02 Jun 2021, 06:23
NoScoutingReports wrote: 02 Jun 2021, 04:53
Caractacus wrote: 01 Jun 2021, 14:38 Their was a well known fight with Sugar Ray Robinson when he was on his tour of Europe in 1951.
In Antwerp Belgium he fought Jan De Bruin.
Robinson was pounding him in the 8th round when all the sudden de Bruin just stopped
fighting, grabbed Robinson's arm and raised it and declared out loudly WINNER !
then he said to Robinson "You'r too good for me".
:lol: that's superb.
... but unfortunately incorrect. What happened was that De Bruin raised his own hand in surrender after about 2 minutes of round 8. He felt Robinson had been taking it easy on him after round 5 and therefore didn't want to continue. Robinson said after the fight that he needed the rounds in preparation of the upcoming Turpin fight and for that reason had backed off repeatedly when he had his opponent in trouble.
:salut:
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ah, so what jan wanted was actually more a beating :yay:
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gotta admit though, now i really wanna see a guy surrendor by raising his opponents hand :lol:
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... sounds much too civilized IMOP.
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NoScoutingReports wrote: 02 Jun 2021, 06:30
wouter wrote: 02 Jun 2021, 06:23
NoScoutingReports wrote: 02 Jun 2021, 04:53

:lol: that's superb.
... but unfortunately incorrect. What happened was that De Bruin raised his own hand in surrender after about 2 minutes of round 8. He felt Robinson had been taking it easy on him after round 5 and therefore didn't want to continue. Robinson said after the fight that he needed the rounds in preparation of the upcoming Turpin fight and for that reason had backed off repeatedly when he had his opponent in trouble.
:salut:
he must have been reading directly from Sugar Ray Robinson autobiography ?
Because I was going by memory from having read the book just last month,
but later on I'm going to re-read his autobiography and make sure what he said was correct.
(maybe even give direct quotes)
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Hey Wouter ,Oh yeah ? and your source is ?
because I just re-read the copy of his very own well-known autobiography that I have on my book-shelf

SUGAR RAY by Sugar Ray Robinson and Dave Anderson (published in 1970)
and this is what it reads-word for word-
(page 194)

"Several days later, we took the train to Antwerp for a bout with Jan de Bruin.
in the eighth round, I was pounding him with combinations and he was grunting and groaning.
Suddenly he grabbed my right arm and raised it as he turned to the crown "The winner !" he yelled.
turning to me, he said, "You are too good for me"
he dropped my arm and walked to his corner. He had surrendered.
Nobody had ever done that with me before, nor would anybody ever do it again."
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Caractacus wrote: 03 Jun 2021, 12:57 Hey Wouter ,Oh yeah ? and your source is ?l
Day after reports in various newspapers, both Belgian and Dutch.
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but the "Sugar Man" himself was in the ring for the fight.
and That is what is known in various courts as a " Primary Witness" (if there ever was one.)
Those obviously biased "Belgium-centric" newspaper writers must have been covering up for Jan de Bruin to save face for their countryman knowing other Nations would have read about it somewhere.
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Caractacus wrote: 03 Jun 2021, 14:28 but the "Sugar Man" himself was in the ring for the fight.
and That is what is known in various courts as a " Primary Witness" (if there ever was one.)
Those obviously biased "Belgium-centric" newspaper writers must have been covering up for Jan de Bruin to save face for their countryman knowing other Nations would have read about it somewhere.
The only problem with an autobiography is that you could put anything you want in there and no one is going to check your work. I understand in Rocky Graziano's AB, he stated that he beat middleweight champ Fred Apostoli (he didn't, he beat a clubfighter named Ted Apostoli - no relation). So I would say, take an AB with a grain of salt.
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