apollo creed wrote: ↑18 Sep 2021, 15:37
Ward beat a prime at the top of his game-undefeated Krusher Kovalev!
Canelo beat a washed up Kovalev that took the fight on short notice, not being able to fully prepare for the fight.
A 38 y/o Ward with proper tune ups, training camp and correct judges has good chances to beat Canelo.
First Ward-Kovalev bout looked like a Draw.
Ward fought dirty in they're 2nd bout. All those nasty dirty nut shots. He did that dirty crap for a reason. He knew he wasn't going to win otherwise.
Canelo Brutally Ko'd a Resurged Kovalev. He'd beat up Ward,from post to post, and if Ward started fighting like a cheating coward with those cowardly nut shots, Canelo wouldn't be nice about that BS like Kovalev was. He'd retaliate ten-fold,and then annihilate "Mr Slick Dirty Duty Ward".
Well, the first fight Kovalev beat Ward, but then Ward rematched Kovalev to clear out the doubts.
As for Canelo, I think he'd hit Ward with the same nasty shots.
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Evander wrote: ↑18 Sep 2021, 19:46
Considering Canelo v GGG 1 and Ward v Kovalev 1 took place in the same city and the same arena, the judges are going to be pulling their hair out at who to rig the fight for.
Well at least they've had some practice in the two fights I've mentioned.
Canelo is the money man and the boxing industry's darling.
apollo creed wrote: ↑17 Sep 2021, 15:36
Ward vs Canelo in 2022 would be huge!
No one's ever accused Ward of being an idiot. I'm sure he's financially set, and would be foolish to cut to 168 at his age and inactivity. This reminds me of Ward critics saying he would never dare to move up to 175 to take on the crusher. Then he was afraid to rematch the crusher. He beat him twice, and also called GGG on his BS claim he would fight at 168.
Believe it or not, although money drives most things in boxing, not everyone is dumb enough to risk damage to their legacy if they don't need the money.
Boxing doesn't need Ward to re-spark things, it needs our current champs to start making fights fans want to see.
Well I agree with you and indeed Ward is one of those fighters that has nothing left to prove BUT imagine a 38 y/o Ward coming of retirement and beat Canelo?
I still think that Ward with proper tune ups and training camps could give Canelo a tough fight! And let's face it that Charlo, Benavidez or Bivol are not on Ward's level!
I'd love to see it, but not realistic imo. If he did, it would have to be at 175.
I'm not sure about a 38 year old broken down & retired Ward facing Canelo, but a peak Ward against Canelo at 168 would have been one of my dream fights.
I would loved to see how Canelo would have handled Ward roughing him up.
OP is badly underestimating the effect of going inactive for 4+ years. If Ward returned today, and was healthy, he would be like #7 due to the horrible rustiness, or possibly worse if his reflexes have declined. Just look at how much Keith Thurman slipped due to less than 2 years of inactivity after the Danny Garcia fight.
Syntax Error wrote: ↑19 Sep 2021, 16:03
I'm not sure about a 38 year old broken down & retired Ward facing Canelo, but a peak Ward against Canelo at 168 would have been one of my dream fights.
I would loved to see how Canelo would have handled Ward roughing him up.
Lackeos wrote: ↑19 Sep 2021, 17:08
OP is badly underestimating the effect of going inactive for 4+ years. If Ward returned today, and was healthy, he would be like #7 due to the horrible rustiness, or possibly worse if his reflexes have declined. Just look at how much Keith Thurman slipped due to less than 2 years of inactivity after the Danny Garcia fight.
Well, yes. Ward is old and his body ain't still the same when he was in S6, and even with proper tune ups and training camps, Canelo would probably stop him.
“I want to be clear: I am leaving because my body can no longer put up with the rigors of the sport and therefore my desire to fight is no longer there,” Ward (32-0, 16 knockouts) wrote in his retirement announcement posted on his official website. He battled knee and shoulder injuries constantly during recent years. “If I cannot give my family, my team, and the fans everything that I have, then I should no longer be fighting.”
"I've been boxing for 23 years and this sport takes a toll on you, and just the accumulative effect of all the training and all of the fights, it just starts to wear on you and when your body starts to wear on you, it takes away your desire. When you don't have the desire and you don't have the ability to go out there and prepare the way you need to, you just shouldn't be in a boxing ring. I've always wanted to retire from the sport and not let the sport retire me and I have that opportunity today."
November 2019:
"I'm not coming out of retirement to fight Canelo Alvarez," Ward said. "There's been a lot of talk -- when that fight was signed and, obviously, since Canelo got the victory over Sergey Kovalev. My phone's been blowing up nonstop. There's been a lot of pressure from individuals in the business, entertainers, you name it, trying to pull me out and it's just not something that I'm interested in doing.
"But don't get me wrong. I'm a fighter at heart. It's not hard to talk me into a fight. It's actually harder to talk me off the ledge and I have great team members [and] we sit down and talk about these things and I have to keep my word. And I have to stick to my conviction that I made Sept. 21, 2017. I feel like I'm gonna be a better asset to the sport of boxing, my family, my church -- all the things that I'm doing as a retired fighter than I would be if I came back."
August 2020:
Andre Ward's lawsuit to collect a $6.3m disability policy payout from his insurers, Lloyds of London, proceeds to federal court in California.
In 2015, Lloyds of London received a premium payment of $91,733.96 from Roc Nation, to secure a professional athlete disability policy for Ward, promising to pay the SOG a $6.3 million lump sum if he suffered an injury that rendered him “totally disabled” from continuing his career as a professional boxer.
Evander wrote: ↑18 Sep 2021, 19:46
Considering Canelo v GGG 1 and Ward v Kovalev 1 took place in the same city and the same arena, the judges are going to be pulling their hair out at who to rig the fight for.
Well at least they've had some practice in the two fights I've mentioned.
Canelo is the money man and the boxing industry's darling.
That he is.
Andre Ward would be a massive win, don't see them making it myself.
