matthewcb wrote: ↑12 Oct 2021, 09:45
Yes, for this reason: money. He's not got the type of personality that would translate well to media (i.e. co-commentating), so what else can he do? He's already 35, so he should spend a couple of years getting as much cash as he can, then ride off into the sunset.
God, I can imagine few things less appealing than the prospect of Wilder's patented word-salad during fight commentary.
He smothers his words more than he smothers his own punches
Am I dreaming or has Wilder already commentated on fights? I’m sure I’ve heard that garbled nonsense from the booth before
oogiebe wrote: ↑12 Oct 2021, 14:45
He'll fight again. Why not? Only the best HW in the world has beat him. Against other top guys it's closer.
He got a lot of money for the 3 Fury fights. Enough to hold him for a while. Maybe he will come back, but it will be money. Hard to fight for anything less than a championship when he defined himself as one for so long.
oogiebe wrote: ↑12 Oct 2021, 14:45
He'll fight again. Why not? Only the best HW in the world has beat him. Against other top guys it's closer.
guy who was just talking retirement before the fight gets brutally beat down and ko'd, stopped for the 2nd time straight, and would probably be 37 if he fought again. already set for life
oogiebe wrote: ↑12 Oct 2021, 14:45
He'll fight again. Why not? Only the best HW in the world has beat him. Against other top guys it's closer.
guy who was just talking retirement before the fight gets brutally beat down and ko'd, stopped for the 2nd time straight, and would probably be 37 if he fought again. already set for life
oogiebe wrote: ↑12 Oct 2021, 14:45
He'll fight again. Why not? Only the best HW in the world has beat him. Against other top guys it's closer.
guy who was just talking retirement before the fight gets brutally beat down and ko'd, stopped for the 2nd time straight, and would probably be 37 if he fought again. already set for life
that would be why not id think
Ego and in denial. That's why I think so.
Ego is one of the reasons why I don't think he will return, unless he is broke.
Remember the narrative "The Baddest Man on the Planet" and how being the champ defined him
He made excuses for the second fight to retain the belief in his mind, which led him to asking for the 3rd.
Now he can't console the fact he isn't the baddest man on the planet, his "bomb" has been defused. He is neutered in front of everyone except those on his payroll.
KiwiRider wrote: ↑12 Oct 2021, 15:40
Geese I'm sounding like a $5 psychologist and not a farmer
I better go, got some sh*t to step in..
spot on, though.
I said something similar. Wilder isn't going to believe he's the second best. He's made himself believe all that nonsense as to why he lost the second fight so he can maintain that belief. He doesn't have that now. He does believe in God, who is the only other excuse he can have. God didn't want him to win. It'll take some serious mental gymnastics for him to find a reason to still believe he's the number 1 guy.
It would be easier for him to settle 'knowing' that he was number 1 for years, and that God wants him to move on.
He either retires or comes back, obsessed with another 'redemption' match.
The problem with the attitude that you will go out on your shield is that it seldom happens. What actually happens in 99% of the cases is that the boxer lives while taking far too much punishment in too many beatdowns. Then the boxer lives the rest of his nearly inevitably shortened lifespan in a very diminished state, physically and mentally.
Wilder has nothing to prove. He gave it his all and found his level. He has plenty of money and a family to care for. He SHOULD retire, but he very likely will fight on.
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Oct 2021, 06:59
i saw that scott said retierment was not in d's plans, but then he also said right after that they havent discussed it yet, dude dont talk straight
Malik Scott has been quoted in another interview confirming Wilder's intention to return to the ring.
And Shelly Finkel says that Wilder is currently interested in facing Anthony Joshua.
Everything coming out of Team Wilder, based on multiple interviews, is that Deontay intends to continue fighting.
Some egos just don't handle losing well. Foreman became a recluse, and then a rotund minister. Rhonda Rousey contemplated suicide! Wilder spouts nonsense.
Regarding physical health, he should retire, but ego will trump that. I'd favor him over most, excepting Fury and Usyk.
I still want to see Wilder fight Joshua, whether it's for a title or not. They are two of the top 4 heavyweights of this era, both have had world titles - their careers would seem incomplete to me if they don't fight each other.
Also I'd like to see Wilder-Ruiz and Wilder-Parker. Both Ruiz and Parker are former world titleholders and would make for interesting matchups and elevate Wilder's legacy if he defeats them..
If the heavyweight title does become unifed/undisputed the lure to fight for it will surely appeal to him. It'll be a big fight whoever he faces. He just has to keep himself in the picture.
of course he will, i think wilder is more likey to fight again than fury, its easier once you have lost as you dont have that shame of losing your zero which i dont get, its like people when they get a new car they drive super slow or cautious till they get a scratch , i think ruiz is the fight for wilder next which is very watchable
cultus wrote: ↑12 Oct 2021, 09:49
He needs to learn to box. What about a jab? I heard yo need it to box.
Have you seen Lenny Lewis trying to teach him to jab, it was a waste of time:
Yeah, I saw it while ago. If he only worked on what Lennox showed him he might have beaten Fury.
Im suprised he got this far with such slender skill set.
cultus wrote: ↑12 Oct 2021, 09:49
He needs to learn to box. What about a jab? I heard yo need it to box.
Wilder rejected an offer from Floyd Mayweather Jr. to train him.
"My thing is, every fighter I've fought, Floyd has bet against me," said Wilder.
"I don't need anybody. I've made it all this far. Why do I need to change up anything?
"Of course, we need to replace, and you're going to see what it is [Malik Scott]. But nobody has reached out to me.
"It's publicity. When I see people do that stuff, it's for publicity. But to the offer [from Mayweather], thank you, but no thank you. I don't feel any love from that man. Their actions don't show that.
"It's fake love to me, but they know that themselves. They can't look me in the eyes and tell me they care about me and want to see me do well.
"They can't look me in the eyes and be sincere about that because I would feel them. They can't do that because they know it's not real. It's not. It's for publicity."
With Floyd Mayweather Jr "skills pay the bills" not love and I thought Wilder needed skills! Malick scott at the other hand ... ??? ... what a weird choice as a trainer.
KiwiRider wrote: ↑12 Oct 2021, 15:40
Geese I'm sounding like a $5 psychologist and not a farmer
I better go, got some sh*t to step in..
spot on, though.
I said something similar. Wilder isn't going to believe he's the second best. He's made himself believe all that nonsense as to why he lost the second fight so he can maintain that belief. He doesn't have that now. He does believe in God, who is the only other excuse he can have. God didn't want him to win. It'll take some serious mental gymnastics for him to find a reason to still believe he's the number 1 guy.
It would be easier for him to settle 'knowing' that he was number 1 for years, and that God wants him to move on.
He either retires or comes back, obsessed with another 'redemption' match.
spot on, though.