I've long been confused about if and/or why that exclusion is really necessary. I agree with the status quo of ignoring Bridgerweight, but is there any particular reason he can't just be ranked wherever he fits in the rankings of the boxrec-recognized weight class in which his most recent fight would belong if not for the existence of bridgerweight (ie in most cases HW, or in a few like Bilal Laggoune, CW)? I'm not quite understanding whether excluding self-or-WBC-styled Bridgerweights is something you decided to do at an Admin or editorial level, or if it's a matter of the system not recognizing their weight class because none is assigned on the bout sheet. If it's the former, I'd ask that the decision be reconsidered. If the latter, could that not be fixed just by specifying the most logical "real" division in the bout details?computerrank wrote: ↑03 Dec 2021, 17:52Jerry Forrest presents himself as #16 WBC Bridgerweight. Bridgerweights (neither Heavyweight nor Cruiserweight) cannot be ranked in the BoxRec schema, which doesn't know Bridgerweight. None of the other major orgs shares that WBC idea.SportsRatings wrote: ↑03 Dec 2021, 15:34 It's probably been a while since he beat anyone decent, but he just got draws vs. Zhang and Hunter and still isn't ranked. Does he need to have a win before he's ranked?
It just seems to me that Jerry Forrest is a heavyweight by any but the random WBC standard, and his being excluded from the heavyweight rankings means the heavyweight rankings are, to some extent, incorrect. I actually did an excel file a few hours ago where I copy and pasted the current heavy and cruiser rankings, and inserted the fighters listed as WBC Bridgerweights rankees on the WBC webstie, using the rankings points each guy appears to have had in the division as of his last fight. It looks like the top 10 are still solid and unchanged, but by the time you get down to the #50 heavyweight, Nathan Gorman....he really ought to be #60 after inserting #13 Oscar Rivas, #23 Evgeny Romanov, #25 Lukasz Rozanski, #30 Jerry Forrest, #31 Alen Babic, #34 Andrey Fedosov, #49 Shigabudin Aliev, #52 Ruslan Fayfer, #54 Petar Milas, and #57 Joey Tambe Djeko (subject to any time-related decay their points might have seen since last fights), To me, when roughly 15% of the top 50 or 60 heavyweights are hidden, and lower-ranked fighters are glorified in their place just because of some random WBC nonsense they might be giving lip service to, that significantly lowers the value of the rankings as they are, and sorta cries out for any remedy that can be made to function.
It's probably a lot more difficult to address from a coding/policy/practical perspective than I realize, but I'm just wondering, I guess, if you see it as a problem worth addressing. I just think that Boxrec behaving as if bridgerweight doesn't exist is good, but that making it look like the fighters themselves don't exist as a consequence of that is very, very bad.
Oh...PS- do you happen to know what Forrest's points at heavyweight would have had him ranked before the fight, if he'd been rankable as a heavyweight?
- I found some other irregularities - will look into that