Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022

[margaret thatcher]

He got polite when he talked about Haney.

[gregregegg]

130 is on the weaker side, he beat clearly the next highest rated fighter. he's so good that i want him to move to 135 straight away, otherwise his road to undisputed is gonna be guys like ogawa........bleh

IF he caneloed it, and fought IBF in september, WBA in december... then they fame/credit/title of undisputed would be worth it i think. But i dont wanna see him still there in 18 months still trying to sweep up the pieces. .

[JxhDel.]

That boy good and should just skip to the best tests even at 135. Not too much to prove anymore as a 126/130.

[margaret thatcher]

130 is on the weaker side, he beat clearly the next highest rated fighter. he's so good that i want him to move to 135 straight away, otherwise his road to undisputed is gonna be guys like ogawa........bleh

IF he caneloed it, and fought IBF in september, WBA in december... then they fame/credit/title of undisputed would be worth it i think. But i dont wanna see him still there in 18 months still trying to sweep up the pieces. .

ya if he pulled it off in like 6 months....all good

but it's not worth waiting much longer. at least canelo had some unbeaten, decently well established and skillful opponents to take from. something like shak-ogawa is just

[Cent0089]

Impressive performance by Stevenson. Staying in 130 is wasting of time IMO. Only guy that presents some challenge is Robson Conceicao who is also with Top Rank or maybe that guy who beat Colbert.

[locoxelbox]

Agree. While it would be great for Shakur to unify before moving up, those fights are not very interesting for the fans and will not make much for his career.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Really good performance by Shak.

A little surprised it was a domination like that.

Mike C scored it a 12-0 shutout, but said could argue Valdez no more than 3 rounds.

[Fightnight Scores]

Good showing by Stevenson. I lasted until round 10 and figured he was cruising to a decision and went to bed

Been a long time since I stayed up right through for a night of boxing!

[Ruthless-RKO]

[NateJR]

Stevenson is top 5 p4p, I could find him as high as #3. Aside from Crawford and Canelo the kid is something special. Can't wait for him to move up to 135. Hopefully it's sooner rather than later before all the top guys at 135 move up in weight. Shakur beats them all.

[DrDuke]

Valdez got schooled. Stevenson boxed perfectly. It's time for him to move up for the big fights.

[Lackeos]

I support the quest to become undisputed at 130. Being undisputed in the post-1983 era is somewhat rare, being two-division undisputed has only been done once so far in this era, and being three-division undisputed has never been done in this era. So I mean, go for it. Try to become undisputed at 130, 135, and 140. While you're doing that, let the lightweights consolidate some more so that you only need one fight to be undisputed at 135. Although, if all the lightweights fought each other, I think whoever the winner is would be too good for Shakur.

[margaret thatcher]

undisputed means beaating ogawa and roger guiterezz. both weak title holders with lowish profiles

undisputed is happening more these days. canelo, taylor, crawford, usyk...........it's a big thing if done right, but below heavyweight its not quite as rare lately and no one is going to pumped by shak beating the guys above. they are boring, boring fights. if he can get it done in less than a year that's cool i guess, but 130 is way too weak for him to stick around longer just to clear up mediocre opposition

i think him being at 135 with the other bigger name guys would give him more of a boost than beating ogawa and gooty tbh. then all the hype of fights with those guys starts to run wild

[DrDuke]

Shakur's style is so pragmatic, that his bouts against the current SFW top guys will be an utter bore. It can be interesting to watch Steveson only against those, who can push him to the limit. Now such opposition is available at LW.

[IKSRTFO]

130 is on the weaker side, he beat clearly the next highest rated fighter. he's so good that i want him to move to 135 straight away, otherwise his road to undisputed is gonna be guys like ogawa........bleh

IF he caneloed it, and fought IBF in september, WBA in december... then they fame/credit/title of undisputed would be worth it i think. But i dont wanna see him still there in 18 months still trying to sweep up the pieces. .

Canelo can do that because he's a star. Fighters won't be in a rush to get a Stevenson payday.

[gregregegg]

130 is on the weaker side, he beat clearly the next highest rated fighter. he's so good that i want him to move to 135 straight away, otherwise his road to undisputed is gonna be guys like ogawa........bleh

IF he caneloed it, and fought IBF in september, WBA in december... then they fame/credit/title of undisputed would be worth it i think. But i dont wanna see him still there in 18 months still trying to sweep up the pieces. .

Canelo can do that because he's a star. Fighters won't be in a rush to get a Stevenson payday.

Depends what shak is willing to give up and toprank willing to invest in it. Undisputed is something you can hang your hat on for the next 10 years as you move through divisions.

Unification fight with shak in it is a million dollr fight, plenty of money to get a relitive no name to take a loss. then Undisputed is a multi million dollar fight by default, once again plenty of money to get a no name to take a loss.

Shak wont be able to get his fair percentage mabey, but it could be a smart investment to take a slightly lower percentage than your market value, establish yourself on p4p lists by defalt, and move to 135 with a pretty elite accolade already and in a good spot to negotiate for actual big fights in the stacked little mans division.

[margaret thatcher]

the boost of becoming undisputed would be put off significantly by the boredom everyone has in shak taking fights vs ogawa and richard guteriez. good way to kill the momentum of schooling a legit top guy. that's why he'd need to get it done quick. guarantee you if he fights ogawa and guterezz, most people will just go on about how bad they are, rather than how good shak is. the bulk of ppl will probably know ogawa best as the guy most felt got a gift vs tev farmer

this isnt a situation like at hw or back at cruiser where becoming undisputed would end in the biggest fight. shak would have to take big steps down from valdez. herring too is a bigger name than ogawa and guteriez. it would be shak moving far backward and fighting low hanging, low profile fruit to become undisputed

as is said, if he can pull it off in like 6 months, its cool, but he shouldnt wait around much longer. way too good to waste his time on guys at that level. its nice to say you were undisputed, but racking up superior wins will top that

tbh, i think shak has a great chance of beating everyone at 135

[apollo creed]

Shak must pack a good punch bc Valdez was feeling them. I'd like to see Shak vs Kambo/Haney winner or Tank.

Shak has great skills, power, a good sized body, sharpness, good footwork and of course a top ring iq.

Shak could unify 130 this year and then move up at 135.

Very good fighter and btw Valdez is a good fighter too but Shak has that FMJ/ TC type of boxing talent.

[margaret thatcher]

valdez has been hurt and down several times before, with all the cleaan shots shak landed, if he had much power we probably wouldve seen him in more trouble (the 1 kd was a punch to the gloves as valdez was basically crouching). herring took loads of shots too but never down or even all that hurt, just taking too many

power is about the one ability he's on the lower end of

[Ruthless-RKO]

the boost of becoming undisputed would be put off significantly by the boredom everyone has in shak taking fights vs ogawa and richard guteriez. good way to kill the momentum of schooling a legit top guy. that's why he'd need to get it done quick. guarantee you if he fights ogawa and guterezz, most people will just go on about how bad they are, rather than how good shak is. the bulk of ppl will probably know ogawa best as the guy most felt got a gift vs tev farmer

this isnt a situation like at hw or back at cruiser where becoming undisputed would end in the biggest fight. shak would have to take big steps down from valdez. herring too is a bigger name than ogawa and guteriez. it would be shak moving far backward and fighting low hanging, low profile fruit to become undisputed

as is said, if he can pull it off in like 6 months, its cool, but he shouldnt wait around much longer. way too good to waste his time on guys at that level. its nice to say you were undisputed, but racking up superior wins will top that

tbh, i think shak has a great chance of beating everyone at 135

Yeh, he probably should have fought the other two first.

But then Guti fights on DAZN and Ohara, well, he ain’t tied down.

We know Top Rank loves it’s in-house fights.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Arum On Stevenson: F--- Being The Unified Champion; Those Fight Aren't Gonna Draw Sh!t!

“F--- being the unified champion,” Arum exclaimed after the unbeaten Stevenson easily conquered Oscar Valdez at MGM Grand Garden Arena. “Screw that! There’s not a person in this room that knows the WBA champion or the IBF champion. So, who wants to put those fights on? They’re not gonna draw sh!t!”

“Shakur can defend titles against other fighters at 130,” Arum said. “There’s a lot of good fighters that he can fight [at 130], not the [jabronis] that are champions of the WBA and the IBF.”

“I thought he was terrific,” Arum said. “Valdez is a tough, tough fighter, a tough out, but Shakur is special. Shakur is special.”

[apollo creed]

Arum On Stevenson: F--- Being The Unified Champion; Those Fight Aren't Gonna Draw Sh!t!

“F--- being the unified champion,” Arum exclaimed after the unbeaten Stevenson easily conquered Oscar Valdez at MGM Grand Garden Arena. “Screw that! There’s not a person in this room that knows the WBA champion or the IBF champion. So, who wants to put those fights on? They’re not gonna draw sh!t!”

“Shakur can defend titles against other fighters at 130,” Arum said. “There’s a lot of good fighters that he can fight [at 130], not the [jabronis] that are champions of the WBA and the IBF.”

“I thought he was terrific,” Arum said. “Valdez is a tough, tough fighter, a tough out, but Shakur is special. Shakur is special.”

Like who?

Maybe at 135.

[Bandog]

SS said a few months ago he would move up if Valdez refused to fight. Hope he does now.

Ryan Garcia said he's fighting in July and fans will love his choice. If not pitbull hope it's SS. My guess is someone's leftover that poses no threat.

[apollo creed]

If Shak doesn't move up at 135, then ain't gonna gonna draw sh!t @ 130!

[Ruthless-RKO]

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