Daniel Dubois vs. Kevin Lerena | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

[maverick23]

So Browne has said that the BBBC refused to sanction this but they’re still trying to get it over the line and persuade them.

I think i might just stick to YouTube boxing

[gregregegg]

So Browne has said that the BBBC refused to sanction this but they’re still trying to get it over the line and persuade them.

I think i might just stick to YouTube boxing

I dont think its really fair for BBBoC to not sanction this considering some of the missmatches they have no problem sanctioning..

Brown is WBA ranked, and is coming off 2 decent wins... He is old, but unless BBBoC want an age limmit... Also he has only had 2 KOs to the head in his carrer.... he can take another one.

I think this is a shit fight, and a missmatch, and i dont really want it. Id like fights like this to not be sanctioned if its consistent I just think BBBoC are kinda overreaching on there current standard considering they sanctioned metz to get slaughtered by Ava, Alex Theran to get slaughtered by Yarde and about 1000 other rank mismatches that are obviously ending in the Bside Getting KO'd, at least with browns power he is a punchers chance (all be it a tiny one).

[maverick23]

So Browne has said that the BBBC refused to sanction this but they’re still trying to get it over the line and persuade them.

I think i might just stick to YouTube boxing

I dont think its really fair for BBBoC to not sanction this considering some of the missmatches they have no problem sanctioning..

Brown is WBA ranked, and is coming off 2 decent wins... He is old, but unless BBBoC want an age limmit... Also he has only had 2 KOs to the head in his carrer.... he can take another one.

I think this is a shit fight, and a missmatch, and i dont really want it. Id like fights like this to not be sanctioned if its consistent I just think BBBoC are kinda overreaching on there current standard considering they sanctioned metz to get slaughtered by Ava, Alex Theran to get slaughtered by Yarde and about 1000 other rank mismatches that are obviously ending in the Bside Getting KO'd, at least with browns power he is a punchers chance (all be it a tiny one).

Fully agree.

[cormack]

dan the can man

very poor level of opponent .
DDD must have had harder sparring .

[Twinkle Toes]

Browne shouldn't be anywhere near Dubois - It is a mismatch and pointless.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Apparently Whyte requested £3m for the fight..

Queensberry obviously refused.

[joshj909]

[Manchester Hitman]

Dubois - Browne is an unsafe matchup. BrickTop should be raked over the proverbial coals for even thinking of putting on this fight,

What a dreadful couple of days for British boxing

[Ruthless-RKO]

Dubois - Browne is an unsafe matchup. BrickTop should be raked over the proverbial coals for even thinking of putting on this fight,

What a dreadful couple of days for British boxing

Whilst all the DAZN/Matchroom shit was going on, Frank tried to get Browne as Dub's opponent undercover..

[daz74]

Dubois - Browne is an unsafe matchup. BrickTop should be raked over the proverbial coals for even thinking of putting on this fight,

What a dreadful couple of days for British boxing

Whilst all the DAZN/Matchroom shit was going on, Frank tried to get Browne as Dub's opponent undercover..

he’s ranked 52 in the world !

[joshj909]

Dubois - Browne is an unsafe matchup. BrickTop should be raked over the proverbial coals for even thinking of putting on this fight,

What a dreadful couple of days for British boxing

Whilst all the DAZN/Matchroom shit was going on, Frank tried to get Browne as Dub's opponent undercover..

he’s ranked 52 in the world !

"Former World Champion"

[1103924]

Dubois - Browne is an unsafe matchup. BrickTop should be raked over the proverbial coals for even thinking of putting on this fight,

What a dreadful couple of days for British boxing

Whilst all the DAZN/Matchroom shit was going on, Frank tried to get Browne as Dub's opponent undercover..

It's like the government passing a legislation the same day there's a terrorist attack.

[maverick23]

Dubois - Browne is an unsafe matchup. BrickTop should be raked over the proverbial coals for even thinking of putting on this fight,

What a dreadful couple of days for British boxing

Whilst all the DAZN/Matchroom shit was going on, Frank tried to get Browne as Dub's opponent undercover..

It's like the government passing a legislation the same day there's a terrorist attack.

That’s what I thought initially but you can get away doing that with a crappy PPV undercard or co-main. Not so much with a headline fight at the O2.

[Dioufy]

It’s gotta be a top 15 heavy tbh.

Daniel deserves to fight for a place in the top #10 so it makes sense to fight the likes of Wallin, Bakole, Hunter or Sanchez.

Must leave the likes of Browne, Forrest and Washington well alone.

He’s ready for a big fight. I would’ve let him fight Joshua on DAZN in a stadium and if he wins… Queensbury have a bonafide superstar for the next 5/6 years.

Worth the gamble and Queensbury and Matchroom are now lovers.

[Ruthless-RKO]

He’s got the belt now.

Might not be legit.. but he’s got opponents to chose from.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I read that Browne was rejected due to his age.

[gregregegg]

I read that Browne was rejected due to his age.

SO would ortiz have been rejected? Pulev, takem and wach are all getting up there... no more decent UK fights for them?

[1103924]

I read that Browne was rejected due to his age.

SO would ortiz have been rejected? Pulev, takem and wach are all getting up there... no more decent UK fights for them?

Mighty Mick wanted Tyson Fury to fight Frans Botha back in the day, but he was rejected because the South African was over 40 at the time. I'm sure the board said they wouldn't sanction anyone over 40 form overseas.

When Shannon the Cannon fought on the Haye undercard, was that sanctioned by the BBBofC?

[joshj909]

I read that Browne was rejected due to his age.

SO would ortiz have been rejected? Pulev, takem and wach are all getting up there... no more decent UK fights for them?

It's an interesting point but you would think that they would assess whether they think the 40 year olds would be a sitting duck or whether they will be able to actually competitive and stop themselves from getting immediately KO'd. That's where subjectivity comes in.

[gregregegg]

I read that Browne was rejected due to his age.

SO would ortiz have been rejected? Pulev, takem and wach are all getting up there... no more decent UK fights for them?

It's an interesting point but you would think that they would assess whether they think the 40 year olds would be a sitting duck or whether they will be able to actually competitive and stop themselves from getting immediately KO'd. That's where subjectivity comes in.

They put people on to be bashed all the time. At least brown won’t take a pre longer beating and will rather get stopped quick or land a hail Mary punch. He is coming off 2 fairly decent wins, KOing toughhh guys.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Lucas Browne Bashes BBBofC After Proposed Daniel Dubois Clash Rejected

Lucas Browne is at an age where most fighters are either retired or well on their way out the sport.

A harsh decision made on his latest proposed fight could push him in that direction.

The 43-year-old Australian heavyweight was tabbed to next face secondary WBA heavyweight titlist Daniel Dubois in a proposed bout that would have taken place on November 26 at The O2 in London. However, the bout was rejected by the British Boxing Board of Control (BBBofC), according to Browne who didn’t mince his words in sounding off against the UK governing body who made plenty of enemies this week.

“I’ve come off two great knockout wins against one of the better fighters in Australia and an up-and-coming fighter in Junior Fa,” Browne noted in a video that he posted on social media on Thursday. “I knocked him out in one round. I currently hold an IBF and WBA Regional title and a Top 15 ranking with the WBA. I’m apparently too old. You finally get the greatest news ever that you’re going to challenge for the world title. Then, some board somewhere says he’s 43, he’s too old, we’re not going to sanction him.

“How sad is that? It’s not like I’ve been beat around the head all my career, I’ve got three losses in total. How does this work? How exactly does this work, where a body of people who are obviously too old to fight themselves just go ‘oh no he’s too old. We’re not going to worry about it.’”

Browne (31-3, 27 KOs) scored a career-resurrecting first-round knockout of New Zealand’s Fa (19-2, 10KOs) this past June 5 in Melbourne. The ESPN-aired bout saw Browne twice floor Fa en route to his quickest victory in more than nine years. Two regional titles at stake also allowed him to rise in the rankings, specifically with the WBA where he is now eligible to fight for the title.

His shoulder was tapped, as suggested by Dubois’ head coach Shane McGuigan in a recent interview with SecondsOut. The BBBofC felt otherwise, however. News of the development came on the heels of the Board refusing to sanction the Chris Eubank Jr.-Conor Benn fight scheduled for this Saturday also at The O2, as the fight fell apart once it was learned that Benn (21-0, 14 KOs) tested positive for the banned substance Clomiphene as discovered through testing contracted by VADA.

Browne has won three of his last four starts, the lone defeat coming in a first-round knockout to unbeaten Paul Gallen last April in Wollongong, Australia. The loss came two years almost to the day of his third-round body shot knockout loss to David Allen in April 2019 at The O2. The same venue played host to Browne’s sixth-round stoppage defeat to Dillian Whyte in their March 2018 clash, the first loss of his career.

At his peak, Browne rallied from a knockdown and massive scorecard deficit to score a tenth-round stoppage of Ruslan Chagaev to win a secondary WBA heavyweight title in March 2016.

The feat was short-lived, as Browne tested positive for Clenbuterol which resulted in his being stripped of the belt and suspended for six months. An appeal filed by Browne’s team was met with sympathy from the WBA, who granted him the benefit of the doubt and allowed him to contend for the title of which he was previously stripped. He never made it to that point, once again testing positive for a banned substance—this time, Ostarine—which took him out of the title mix.

Browne has worked hard to reposition himself for one last shot at a belt, though will have to explore other means to realize that dream.

“I’m coming off two great knockout wins with two belts and a world rating, how am I too old,” questioned Browne. “If I’m too old I wouldn’t have any of that. How in any way whatsoever is that right? And how can that be allowed to stand? I don’t understand. The guy from Australia gets f------ over again. It’s money and politics. If you don’t have the money and the politics to back it up, you get f------ over.

“That’s been my entire career, unfortunately. My entire career, I’ve been f------ over by every country. I don’t know what it is. There’s always been something. There will always be something. It really leaves a bad taste in my mouth about boxing. I never want my kids to go into boxing. I think it’s f------ from start to finish. From the amateurs to the professionals, it’s bullsh!t. Why not just let people fight and be done with it? That’s my two cents, anyway.”

For now, plans remain in place for Dubois (18-1, 17 KOS) to move forward with the date though now against an opponent to be determined. The Board’s ruling on Browne comes after it was learned that plans for an all-British heavyweight clash between Dubois and Whyte went south after once being on the table.

[chinarich]

I feel a bit sorry for Lucas Browne, all he wants is to parlay his WBA ranking into one last decent payday. He has his gym all set up and this is a final opportunity to earn. I don’t see too much risk from him facing Dubois, to be honest.

[MightyWarrior]

The main risk is boxing fans have to watch DD splatter a shot 40 year old in ugly fashion. Who wants to see that?

That one round loss the Aussie suffered showed he’s not lasting 2 minutes with Dan. Shot to hell

[chinarich]

Sure, but if the promotion is willing to pay him handsomely then I don’t begrudge him seeking out the biggest purse he can obtain from his current position. This is prizefighting after all.

[1103924]

The main risk is boxing fans have to watch DD splatter a shot 40 year old in ugly fashion. Who wants to see that?

That one round loss the Aussie suffered showed he’s not lasting 2 minutes with Dan. Shot to hell

I agree, but that has to be safer than someone with a massively padded record that none of us have heard of.