gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Dec 2022, 14:32
GreenLightning wrote: ↑02 Dec 2022, 14:25
You seem to have contempt for the fighters themselves,
So I can cheat with the justification that I assume everyone else is cheating
If I take PEDs and put somebody who wasn't on PEDs in the hospital, it's ok because he is on PEDs because everybody is
That's a lovely precedent
I don't have any contempt for the fighters. I admire many of them greatly, and I love the sport.
I just acknowledge the reality. Everyone takes 'em at some point. Some get away with it because they can afford all the top drugs or chemical experts to advise them on how to hide it.
Ultimately I think PED's are overrated to be quite honest.
You also got De La Hoya vs Vargas as an example. Vargas was juiced to the gills for that fight, and he still couldn't beat Oscar because Oscar was simply better than him.
So for all the talk that these things turn you into the unstoppable Incredible Hulk. I mean....they don't. You still have to be a good fighter first. A good boxer who's worked on your craft. PED's aren't a shortcut to being good. They're something older guys tend to use to maintain their prime a little longer when it would've passed 'em by.
I think taking an inhaler in between rounds wouldn't guarantee me a victory against better fighters, but it would sure help!!
You wouldn't think that would make a big difference but then ask Luis Resto or Aaron Pryor
In fact the quote from Resto on Panama Lewis special brew "I was tired, suddenly my lungs filled up with air I thought SH T this feels good!!!"
But it's just inhaler powder what difference could it possibly make
Since PEDs worked so much wonders for Luis Ortiz and Lucas Browne, both old guys as you say who looked like garbage after caught on the PEDs, Browne who fought Chagaev kills Browne who fought Whyte after all, then what are they doing for the younger fighters