What makes you think that the Ukrainian is above playing games?
Hmmm, maybe going on the road and winning all 4 CW belts away from home, fighting AJ wherever he was told too. His track record speaks for itself, doesn't talk shit, will fight anyone, anywhere. The guy is literally a Spartan warrior.
An insane amount of money changes a lot of people's ethics and character unfortunately. A single fight with Tyson Fury would probably equate to all of his purses put together throughout his entire career.
Besides that other than Anthony Joshua is there really anyone you can point to that Tyson Fury did not fight that was absolutely necessary? I think most people can say that it is obvious that Eddie Hearn did not want the Tyson Fury fight this last time which is all the more solidified in the fact that Anthony Joshua is going to fight some largely unknown Australian in his next outing.
Tyson Fury may be a lot of things but a coward is simply not one of them. And it is beyond laughable to try to pretend that he is because some man happened to beat Anthony Joshua.
So a fight with Fury is equal to a Usyk’s total combined purses.
There was much discussion that AJ/Usyk equally shared $80m for their fight in Saudi. So if Usyk got $40m for that fight, do you think he’d get that at 50% of the purse if they fight at Wembley?
Fuk i hate the ideas of contracts befor contracts. Everyone with a brain knows usyk is serious, so just start making real contracts.
get a couple of venues best offers, crunch the numbers, do ya splits, get fury to sign it, then give it to usyk to be signed... when your the one offering you should have everything sorted and just one name left to be signed for the fight to be 100% made...
instead it seems to be sign here, to accept a fight that might be somewhere, and might be for an amount of money, and might be at some date.... we will get you to sign off on those things as they come together.... then whats the first signature worth if it dosent bind shiit...
Frostieballs wrote: ↑17 Jan 2023, 04:23
This ‘preliminary contract’ is a load of BS.
It is clearly a posturing device for Fury’s team to say ‘we’ve sent a contract, if you don’t sign it you are ducking the fight.’
The contract (if it does exist) contains no details on venue, date or purse split - let alone purse amount!!
There is no way on earth Usyk can sign that. He would leave himself open to all kinds of possibilities.
Prelim contracts are used when general details are known, but there are a few loose ends to tie up.
We don’t even have a value for the fight specified here. Fury’s own team admit they are still discussing the financials with potential backers.
All a smokescreen. Fury was never going to box Joshua, for whatever reason, and it looks (to the outside)like he won't fight Uysk either. Both potential banana skins, so maybe best avoided?
It's interesting that Wilder is also finding it difficult to put pen to paper for the Ruiz fight.
Whilst these big fights aren't getting made the public are instead flocking to see KSI and Jake Paul in mismatches. Boxing has now been replaced by the Youtubers. Such an odd period of time.
Such a fall from grace for the self claimed `Peoples Champion`.
From hero couple years back where practically all his social media posts had positive comments - to now where they attract mainly negative comments.
It was always inevitable that people would see through his whole fake front. Lets just hope that after his recent dodge of AJ using very similar tactics of fake contracts and deadlines that this time he is backed into a corner of accepting an Usyk fight.
tonyevs wrote: ↑17 Jan 2023, 08:26
Such a fall from grace for the self claimed `Peoples Champion`.
From hero couple years back where practically all his social media posts had positive comments - to now where they attract mainly negative comments.
It was always inevitable that people would see through his whole fake front. Lets just hope that after his recent dodge of AJ using very similar tactics of fake contracts and deadlines that this time he is backed into a corner of accepting an Usyk fight.
Disappointingly predictable isnt it ...
Mickey1975's unusually quiet on this: "Minicabs Mickey, where are you?"
Usyk might even say ok I'll take less, I genuinely believe that he is all about becoming a legend of the sport not money, everything he has done in his career suggests this.
To be fair I think Usyk is in similar position to what Froch was in. Either well paid big risk fights - or easy fights for no real money .. it will be all about the money for Usyk also.
I'm 100% sure Fury would be brave enough to be taking huge risks if he didn't have easier options too.
Tyson Fury finally responds to Oleksandr Usyk, and is actually looking kind of trim in comparison to the Chisora fight. Then again it could very well be the clothes making Fury look trimmer than he is but nevertheless he's finally responded to the challenger with all the other belts.
I sincerely hope this call out by Fury is a sign that the fight is about to be formally announced.
I really hope that it is not the same playbook as with the Joshua fight negotiations, and that Fury is only now coming out to appear keen, at a time when there seems to be some doubt about the negotiations e.g. the goalposts shifting from "everything agreed, just need a venue" to "Uysk doesn't deserve 50/50 at Wembley".
I don't want to be cynical and I massively hope I am wrong, but once bitten, twice shy and all that..
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What makes you think that the Ukrainian is above playing games? This is quite literally the only time in the man's entire career where the entire world has their eyeballs on him because prior to the Joshua fights nobody but hardcore boxing fans knew who the hell he was.
Boxer A: universally known for being a career road warrior who has faced everyone put in front of him with minimal fuss
Boxer B: a long history of ducks, fake retirements and shenanigans
Hmmm, I wonder who is most likely to be the problem
Oh horseshit.
The way that you are portraying Tyson Fury is as if he some sort of pretender to the crown who is no good at all and hiding from a man nearly a hundred pounds lighter than himself. Some manufactured heavyweight who has to protect himself from some largely unknown quantity that only hardcore boxing fans are crazy over, who's best win is over a muscle bound emotionally fragile heavyweight who already got exposed.
Get real. Tyson Fury wouldn't have become two-time heavyweight champion and remain undefeated if he was as crappy as you want to make him out to be.
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023, 21:42
The only so-called fans that Tyson Fury lost was people who were never fans of his to begin with but only jumped on the bandwagon when he beat Deontay Wilder. And the moment they didn't get their beloved Joshua fight which was all Joshua's fault anyways they went and turned on Tyson Fury.
Maybe many folk are fans of the sport of boxing, rather than celebrity worshipers?
forget all the messing about and politics
