Bonecrusher Smith versus Jerry Quarry

[goose 5]

12 rounds.

[DrDuke]

Quarry was a tough fighter, but he didn't have tools to outbox the other tough fighter with the superior physique like Smith, if the least was in top conditions.

Bonecrusher by dec or late stoppage in a competetive bout.

[goose 5]

I don't know; Quarry out boxed Lyle. I guess one could say Lyle hadn't peaked yet but I'm not sure. Smith is much bigger than Lyle also. Having said all that, I still think Quarry has a good chance to win this one but it's a tough call, imo.

[scorpio83]

I'm with Dr. Duke with his matchup. I believe that Bonecrusher Smith would bang Quarry's face with jabs, body punches and landing heavy head punches to stop Quarry on a cut in 8 rounds.

[Nile4000]

Quarry by UD in 12 or 15.

[oogiebe]

Quarry was a very good boxer who was tough as nails. Smith was big. Didn't have that toughness and wasn't exactly especially skilled. Heart says Quarry.

[Joson]

I'm guessing Quarry wins this, even in spite of the significant size difference between the two. Bottom line: Bonecrusher was just a big, strong, hard-hitting, but clumsy fighter with limited skill.

Quarry on points.

My judgment is based on the assumption that both guys fought their best during their peak years.

[DrDuke]

I'm guessing Quarry wins this, even in spite of the significant size difference between the two. Bottom line: Bonecrusher was just a big, strong, hard-hitting, but clumsy fighter with limited skill.

Quarry on points.

My judgment is based on the assumption that both guys fought their best during their peak years.

Quarry was quite limited too.

[oogiebe]

I'm guessing Quarry wins this, even in spite of the significant size difference between the two. Bottom line: Bonecrusher was just a big, strong, hard-hitting, but clumsy fighter with limited skill.

Quarry on points.

My judgment is based on the assumption that both guys fought their best during their peak years.

Quarry was quite limited too.

He wasn't that limited. A lot of skill to his game. Great counter puncher; ring IQ, etc. Didn't do anything great but well schooled boxer puncher. Watch his fight vs Lyle and Patterson in particular.

[DrDuke]

I'm guessing Quarry wins this, even in spite of the significant size difference between the two. Bottom line: Bonecrusher was just a big, strong, hard-hitting, but clumsy fighter with limited skill.

Quarry on points.

My judgment is based on the assumption that both guys fought their best during their peak years.

Quarry was quite limited too.

He wasn't that limited. A lot of skill to his game. Great counter puncher; ring IQ, etc. Didn't do anything great but well schooled boxer puncher. Watch his fight vs Lyle and Patterson in particular.

He was decent for sure and performed well in those fights, but also it's fair to suggest, that Lyle wasn't full-loaded by the Quarry bout, while Patterson was declined.

Quarry lacked speed and footwork despite possessing good fundamentals.

[gilgamesh]

Bonecrusher being such a bigger man could wear on Quarry physically over the course of a grueling fight. Quarry is the technically more skilled fighter, and I think would take his share of rounds, but the toughness and physicality of Bonecrusher might mean he ultimately wears down Quarry. Plus I could see Quarry getting dropped in the fight where I couldn't really see Bonecrusher going down.

I'd favor Smith.

[Joson]

I'm guessing Quarry wins this, even in spite of the significant size difference between the two. Bottom line: Bonecrusher was just a big, strong, hard-hitting, but clumsy fighter with limited skill.

Quarry on points.

My judgment is based on the assumption that both guys fought their best during their peak years.

Quarry was quite limited too.

Not that limited. Quarry could move well on his feet and was an pretty good counterpuncher. Watch his 1960s fights for examples of what I mean.

Quarry probably could have out-maneuvered and outhustled the flat-footed Bonecrusher, who tended not to set his punches up well. Quarry had a knack for handling bigger guys too: check out his Buster Mathis Sr. and Ron Lyle fights.

Sure, Quarry looked lumbering in the second Ali fight. In the second Frazier bout, Quarry was hopeless. He got his head handed to him by Kenny Norton. But I don't put Bonecrusher in the same league as Ali, Frazier, and Norton.

Of course there is there outside chance of Bonecrusher overwhelming Quarry and bombing him into KO defeat. Smith was four inches taller and 30 lbs heavier than Jerry, who sometimes got banged up heavily by his opponents. But Bonecrusher was no George Foreman. Odds are that Quarry could handle Smith's superior size, strength, and power.

I'd give Bonecrusher a 25% chance of victory. Maybe - only maybe - I'd give him a 30%. That's the absolute upper-limit IMO.

It's not that I have a low opinion of Bonecrusher's abilities. Quite the opposite: I think he was pretty good; a bonafide world class heavyweight in his era. But I doubt he could have handled Quarry.

[HomicideHenry]

I'm more impressed with Jerry Quarry in the 1960s than I am Jerry Quarry of the 1970s. He could box a bit though he favored brawling. His matches with Floyd Patterson was probably the best he ever did. By the time the 1970s rolled around he had so much scar tissue that he started getting TKO'd. Even in the losing effort with somebody like Jimmy Ellis he impressed Is especially when you figure he did the match with a broken back.

Much as I like Bonecrusher Smith, a lot of those 1980s heavyweights were inconsistent. He would put up a good fight against Quarry but I think it probable that Quarry wins a decision. Quarry would've had the faster hands, and Smith punching downwards at his much shorter opponent would have taken an edge off of his power.

[oogiebe]

Quarry was quite limited too.

He wasn't that limited. A lot of skill to his game. Great counter puncher; ring IQ, etc. Didn't do anything great but well schooled boxer puncher. Watch his fight vs Lyle and Patterson in particular.

He was decent for sure and performed well in those fights, but also it's fair to suggest, that Lyle wasn't full-loaded by the Quarry bout, while Patterson was declined.

Quarry lacked speed and footwork despite possessing good fundamentals.

He had good footwork, putting himself in position to counter etc. You underestimate him. He wasn't great, but he was a very good fighter.

[Joson]

I'm more impressed with Jerry Quarry in the 1960s than I am Jerry Quarry of the 1970s. He could box a bit though he favored brawling. His matches with Floyd Patterson was probably the best he ever did. By the time the 1970s rolled around he had so much scar tissue that he started getting TKO'd. Even in the losing effort with somebody like Jimmy Ellis he impressed Is especially when you figure he did the match with a broken back.

Much as I like Bonecrusher Smith, a lot of those 1980s heavyweights were inconsistent. He would put up a good fight against Quarry but I think it probable that Quarry wins a decision. Quarry would've had the faster hands, and Smith punching downwards at his much shorter opponent would have taken an edge off of his power.

I think you hit the nail on the head.

IMO, Quarry's 1967 victory over Thad Spencer is proof of his boxing and counter-punching ability. Anyone who watches this film (it's on Youtube) will understand how Quarry would have dealt with Bonecrusher.

[BoxBuzz]

This is what A.I. has to say on the subject.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the main event of the evening! Tonight, we have a classic clash between two heavyweight warriors in their prime, Jerry "Irish" Quarry and "Bonecrusher" Smith. It's going to be a 12-round battle for the ages, and the winner will be one step closer to boxing immortality.

Round 1: The bell rings, and both fighters come out swinging. Quarry lands a few jabs, but Smith counters with a big right hand that sends Quarry staggering. Smith presses the advantage, but Quarry manages to survive the round.

Round 2: Quarry comes out more cautiously, circling around Smith and picking his spots. Smith tries to land another big shot, but Quarry's movement keeps him out of harm's way. Quarry lands a couple of good shots of his own, and the round ends with both fighters still standing.

Round 3: Smith starts to tire a bit, and Quarry takes advantage, landing a series of quick punches to the head and body. Smith's defense starts to crumble, and Quarry lands a big left hook that sends Smith to the canvas. Smith beats the count, but he's clearly hurt.

Round 4: Smith tries to regain his composure, but Quarry smells blood and goes in for the kill. Quarry lands a barrage of punches, and the referee steps in to stop the fight. Jerry Quarry is the winner by TKO!

What a performance by Jerry Quarry! He showed great skill and determination in taking down a tough opponent like Bonecrusher Smith. This victory will go down in boxing history as one of Quarry's greatest moments in the ring.

[Joson]

This is what A.I. has to say on the subject.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the main event of the evening! Tonight, we have a classic clash between two heavyweight warriors in their prime, Jerry "Irish" Quarry and "Bonecrusher" Smith. It's going to be a 12-round battle for the ages, and the winner will be one step closer to boxing immortality.

Round 1: The bell rings, and both fighters come out swinging. Quarry lands a few jabs, but Smith counters with a big right hand that sends Quarry staggering. Smith presses the advantage, but Quarry manages to survive the round.

Round 2: Quarry comes out more cautiously, circling around Smith and picking his spots. Smith tries to land another big shot, but Quarry's movement keeps him out of harm's way. Quarry lands a couple of good shots of his own, and the round ends with both fighters still standing.

Round 3: Smith starts to tire a bit, and Quarry takes advantage, landing a series of quick punches to the head and body. Smith's defense starts to crumble, and Quarry lands a big left hook that sends Smith to the canvas. Smith beats the count, but he's clearly hurt.

Round 4: Smith tries to regain his composure, but Quarry smells blood and goes in for the kill. Quarry lands a barrage of punches, and the referee steps in to stop the fight. Jerry Quarry is the winner by TKO!

What a performance by Jerry Quarry! He showed great skill and determination in taking down a tough opponent like Bonecrusher Smith. This victory will go down in boxing history as one of Quarry's greatest moments in the ring.

Interesting, but I can't picture Quarry stopping Bonecrusher, who took a great punch and could clinch.

[BoxBuzz]

And yet there was the story of Ernie Shavers........and we all know how that ended. Quarry was good at avoiding a clinch when he saw fit, and honestly Smith might not feel that tactic a necessity with Quarry.

And of course, as always, anything can happen between two talented fighters.