Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

[tonyevs]

I suggest you sack off that mole you shared a coffee with previously Micky, all his claims of early morning training sessions and Fury being in good nic .. fella proved to be full of sh1t

The Fury brand has always been toxic, but it has a very loyal blinkered fan base happy to ignore facts and simply believe Fury's altered reality .. they seem to have finally seen through him.

The Fury's have over stayed their time in British boxing, they need to be flushed away asap.

He wasn't. That happened. He did add the fight needed signing immediately. He is a 100% boxing person, license holder. Maybe wasn't in as good a nick as he was told....
Loads of my casual friends have been saying Tyson looks like he's on the sniff again right back to Joyce-Parker, no inside info, just opinions of recreational drug users.

Appols if it looks I digging at you Mick - it's just so much nonsense from all angles with Fury.

My own opinion is that Fury is merely using the title as a hand hold to maintain his celebrity; I don't think boxing has much, if any, desire for him nowadays.

Unfortunately how he conducts himself does not endear him to the public, so he will either be that ugly stain that refuses to go away .. or be ridiculed where he hides himself away.

[The Gratest]

Dev Sahni

@devsahni
Not true.

Fury wants either no rematch clause at all or 50/50 in a rematch in the event Usyk wins. Usyk is demanding that it’s 70/30 in his favour in the event that he wins.

The sort of demand that stops fights happening sadly.

He works for Fwank W (Queensberry Promotions)

[BigDoofus]

Says Tyson wants 50/50 split if loses.

Meanwhile that if rematch takes place in Middle East that each negotiate their split separately.

Seems fair to me tbh.

Usyk agreed on that split v Joshua but won’t for Fury.

[Nightmare Roy]

Says Tyson wants 50/50 split if loses.

Meanwhile that if rematch takes place in Middle East that each negotiate their split separately.

Seems fair to me tbh.

Usyk agreed on that split v Joshua but won’t for Fury.

That was agreed before the first AJ fight when he was a challenger, completely different going into this fight with 3 belts. Even if he did agree, Fury would make other ridiculous demands in order to scupper the fight. He doesn't want to fight Usyk.

[Frostieballs]

Dev Sahni

@devsahni
Not true.

Fury wants either no rematch clause at all or 50/50 in a rematch in the event Usyk wins. Usyk is demanding that it’s 70/30 in his favour in the event that he wins.

The sort of demand that stops fights happening sadly.

FFS Usyk has been bent over once.

He’s entitled to the same consideration if he wins - he will be UNDISPUTED!!

All this talk that Usyk can’t earn more anywhere else so should just accept any terms annoys me as well.

Fury can’t earn as much anywhere else either!!

[big lennox]

Dev Sahni

@devsahni
Not true.

Fury wants either no rematch clause at all or 50/50 in a rematch in the event Usyk wins. Usyk is demanding that it’s 70/30 in his favour in the event that he wins.

The sort of demand that stops fights happening sadly.

FFS Usyk has been bent over once.

He’s entitled to the same consideration if he wins - he will be UNDISPUTED!!

All this talk that Usyk can’t earn more anywhere else so should just accept any terms annoys me as well.

Fury can’t earn as much anywhere else either!!

Zero point engaging with Big Doofus. Just a troll. The bottom line is, in boxing credibility terms, Fury is a busted flush.

The only thing Fury will be annoyed about is that he wanted to pull the plug, but he was out manoeuvred by Uysk. He was outmanoeuvred by Uysk all the way through, and would have been in the ring, too. Hence doing everything to stop the fight from happening.

[The Gratest]

Fury was off living it up in Tenerife for a week at 10 weeks to go.
Then faffing around in Saudi for a few days with 8 weeks to go.
No training camp in place, no trainer in place, no proper sparring partners in place with 6 weeks to go.
His trainer finally arrives but informs all that he's here to train Okolie and his return flight to the US is on the 28th of March.

Yet some (well one person) seemingly still believes Fury was going to fight against Usyk for the unified HW championship on April 29th.

Admittedly, there were no fashion shows involved.

[ashall2]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/65037833

Usually like Warren but he's talking crap here. Scared of upsetting Fury.

If Fury is so confident of beating Usyk as he’s told us hundreds of times then surely Usyk wanting 70/30 if he wins won’t be an issue?

[ashall2]

Dev Sahni

@devsahni
Not true.

Fury wants either no rematch clause at all or 50/50 in a rematch in the event Usyk wins. Usyk is demanding that it’s 70/30 in his favour in the event that he wins.

The sort of demand that stops fights happening sadly.

Dev Sahni is that far up Warren's arse he's nearly coming out of his head.

[ashall2]

Says Tyson wants 50/50 split if loses.

Meanwhile that if rematch takes place in Middle East that each negotiate their split separately.

Seems fair to me tbh.

Usyk agreed on that split v Joshua but won’t for Fury.

Usyk had no belts for Joshua. He has 3 now.

[BigDoofus]

Says Tyson wants 50/50 split if loses.

Meanwhile that if rematch takes place in Middle East that each negotiate their split separately.

Seems fair to me tbh.

Usyk agreed on that split v Joshua but won’t for Fury.

Usyk had no belts for Joshua. He has 3 now.

He had 3 belts going in to his last fight. Joshua had 0.
50/50 split.

[BigDoofus]

Dev Sahni

@devsahni
Not true.

Fury wants either no rematch clause at all or 50/50 in a rematch in the event Usyk wins. Usyk is demanding that it’s 70/30 in his favour in the event that he wins.

The sort of demand that stops fights happening sadly.

FFS Usyk has been bent over once.

He’s entitled to the same consideration if he wins - he will be UNDISPUTED!!

All this talk that Usyk can’t earn more anywhere else so should just accept any terms annoys me as well.

Fury can’t earn as much anywhere else either!!

If he’s undisputed why does he need a rematch?

[big lennox]

Usyk agreed on that split v Joshua but won’t for Fury.

Usyk had no belts for Joshua. He has 3 now.

He had 3 belts going in to his last fight. Joshua had 0.
50/50 split.

Doofy, just sit back and relax. Fury doesn't need to worry about the dangerous Uysk anymore. He is free to return to his soft touch schedule.

Uysk is the main man, though. What an operator. He has joined the pantheon of greats: Olympic Gold Medalist, Undisputed Cruiserweight Champion, unified heavyweight champion and ran the rival belt holder out of town. Awesome stuff.

[BigDoofus]

Admittedly, there were no fashion shows involved.

After claiming it was unheard of for a boxer to set a deadline, is it not hypocritical not to mention Usyk’s ridiculous 1% extra per day deadline?

[The Gratest]

Admittedly, there were no fashion shows involved.

After claiming it was unheard of for a boxer to set a deadline, is it not hypocritical not to mention Usyk’s ridiculous 1% extra per day deadline?

You love removing parts of posts that you don't like, don't you?
Carry on crying.

[The Gratest]

Usyk's wife firing off shots now.

[Nightmare Roy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/65037833

Usually like Warren but he's talking crap here. Scared of upsetting Fury.

If Fury is so confident of beating Usyk as he’s told us hundreds of times then surely Usyk wanting 70/30 if he wins won’t be an issue?

Embarrassing isn't it, like chemical Ali,

[Nightmare Roy]

Usyk agreed on that split v Joshua but won’t for Fury.

Usyk had no belts for Joshua. He has 3 now.

He had 3 belts going in to his last fight. Joshua had 0.
50/50 split.

Because it was signed when Usyk had no belts, is that too hard to understand?

[big lennox]

Admittedly, there were no fashion shows involved.

After claiming it was unheard of for a boxer to set a deadline, is it not hypocritical not to mention Usyk’s ridiculous 1% extra per day deadline?

Doofy, it's actually quite delicious watching you trying to defend the indefensible

[BigDoofus]

Usyk had no belts for Joshua. He has 3 now.

He had 3 belts going in to his last fight. Joshua had 0.
50/50 split.

Doofy, just sit back and relax. Fury doesn't need to worry about the dangerous Uysk anymore. He is free to return to his soft touch schedule.

Uysk is the main man, though. What an operator. He has joined the pantheon of greats: Olympic Gold Medalist, Undisputed Cruiserweight Champion, unified heavyweight champion and ran the rival belt holder out of town. Awesome stuff.

He turned down the Fury fight in December and now he has walked away because he won’t get enough money for a rematch that he claims he doesn’t want. “Awesome stuff”.

[Counter-puncher]

Usyk's wife firing off shots now.

the gypsy queen

[stujones]

Fury's career is seemingly more about pullouts and postponements / never on than actually fighting.

David Price
David Haye (granted not his fault at all).
Wlad Klischko 2.
Anthony Joshua (first "agreed" after Wilder 2).
Anthony Joshua (post Dillian Whyte fight).
Usyk.

Pretty certain there have been other delays also (wasn't Wilder 2 supposed to happen earlier). And these are fights in which there was serious negotiations - let alone the others that were just bullshit (e.g. the big Wilder call out after he beat Klitschko).

[Controversial]

He had 3 belts going in to his last fight. Joshua had 0.
50/50 split.

Doofy, just sit back and relax. Fury doesn't need to worry about the dangerous Uysk anymore. He is free to return to his soft touch schedule.

Uysk is the main man, though. What an operator. He has joined the pantheon of greats: Olympic Gold Medalist, Undisputed Cruiserweight Champion, unified heavyweight champion and ran the rival belt holder out of town. Awesome stuff.

He turned down the Fury fight in December and now he has walked away because he won’t get enough money for a rematch that he claims he doesn’t want. “Awesome stuff”.

Usyk only turned the fight down in December as he had injuries. In terms of the rematch clause I don’t see why any challenger deserves a 50% share when they’ve lost the belts and the winner is the undisputed champ. Especially after only getting 30% in the first fight. I can see why Usyks team aren’t happy with that and probably feel like they’ve conceded enough as it is.

[BigDoofus]

Doofy, just sit back and relax. Fury doesn't need to worry about the dangerous Uysk anymore. He is free to return to his soft touch schedule.

Uysk is the main man, though. What an operator. He has joined the pantheon of greats: Olympic Gold Medalist, Undisputed Cruiserweight Champion, unified heavyweight champion and ran the rival belt holder out of town. Awesome stuff.

He turned down the Fury fight in December and now he has walked away because he won’t get enough money for a rematch that he claims he doesn’t want. “Awesome stuff”.

Usyk only turned the fight down in December as he had injuries. In terms of the rematch clause I don’t see why any challenger deserves a 50% share when they’ve lost the belts and the winner is the undisputed champ. Especially after only getting 30% in the first fight. I can see why Usyks team aren’t happy with that and probably feel like they’ve conceded enough as it is.

But he said he only wanted the WBC belt and didn’t want a rematch, so why walk away about a rematch clause?
He was happy to face Gassiev without a rematch clause. Besides him now being in his 37th year what has changed?

[maverick23]

He turned down the Fury fight in December and now he has walked away because he won’t get enough money for a rematch that he claims he doesn’t want. “Awesome stuff”.

Usyk only turned the fight down in December as he had injuries. In terms of the rematch clause I don’t see why any challenger deserves a 50% share when they’ve lost the belts and the winner is the undisputed champ. Especially after only getting 30% in the first fight. I can see why Usyks team aren’t happy with that and probably feel like they’ve conceded enough as it is.

But he said he only wanted the WBC belt and didn’t want a rematch, so why walk away about a rematch clause?
He was happy to face Gassiev without a rematch clause. Besides him now being in his 37th year what has changed?

The Gassiev fight was the final of the WBSS so he would have signed up to the tournament and not negotiated separate commercial deals for each fight hence why there weren’t any immediate rematches from it.